IJFL Week 9 - Head to Head

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: buffaloblue
Date: July 29, 2017 at 01:56 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/ijfl-week-9-head-to-head.71473/

You may not think so, but you are.
Gibbs said:
0 chance we are on the bubble. As this has only been an issue this season, made the cut, have only not made the playoffs including this season twice, and are one of the top teams all time. 0 chance. Especially when I replace the two guys. Like i said the unforeseen side effect of this seasOns rule to not allow people to recruit from teams who didn't make it really made it difficult for teams like ours to replace our dead weight with quality fighters. Especially like now when we are eliminated from playoffs
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[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: maggotbrain
Date: July 29, 2017 at 02:02 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/ijfl-week-9-head-to-head.71473/

Strez said:
Of course i'll blame you for YOUR team not making weight. That's what captains are for.
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I can't only speak for myself here, but this can be a tougher than it should seem. I had a lot of guys Mis last season, and it cost me. I also had a team of guys ive been fighting with since 09/10 ish for the most part. You could easily blame me for not replacing guys and such but I'm loyal to those who've been loyal to me. Life happens sometimes and I wanted to give the people I've been with the benefit of doubt. I've tried to be more adamant with texts and emails to guys who I know are only active during team time
Strez said:
Recruit. Took @maggotbrain about 1 hour to find someone to replace Chad so no excuse. You shouldn't be able to just pick up guys from teams who don't make the cut until the season ends. If a guy is on a team and goes 0-6 or whatever shouldn't just be able to jump to a new team who's in the finals
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I'll admit I was nervous but lucked into an opportunity when I saw @RJCT post "in". I saw an opportunity to get a champ quality fight, reached out and took it.
We've had talks about just rolling with 5 as there was low talent. Lucky we didn't because computer issues this time. But sometimes weight issues just happen.
That said, if it's a constant 2 you should look to replace him ( I've learned through experience). I do agree or wish we had a way to deepen the pool though. It would help a team,like Havoc, who knew they weren't gonna make it anyway, to replace the dead weight.
JUst my take on all this. Sometimes there's just no good answers.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: Gibbs
Date: July 29, 2017 at 02:07 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/ijfl-week-9-head-to-head.71473/

maggotbrain said:
I can't only speak for myself here, but this can be a tougher than it should seem. I had a lot of guys Mis last season, and it cost me. I also had a team of guys ive been fighting with since 09/10 ish for the most part. You could easily blame me for not replacing guys and such but I'm loyal to those who've been loyal to me. Life happens sometimes and I wanted to give the people I've been with the benefit of doubt. I've tried to more adamant with texts and emails to guys who I know are only active during team time
I'll admit I was nervous but lucked into an opportunity when I saw @RJCT post "in". I saw an opportunity to get a champ quality fight, reached out and took it.
We've had talks about just rolling with 5 as there was low talent. Lucky we didn't because computer issues this time. But sometimes weight issues just happen.
That said, if it's a constant 2 you should look to replace him ( I've learned through experience). I do agree or wish we had a way to deepen the pool though. It would help a team,like Havoc, who knew they weren't gonna make it anyway, to replace the dead weight.
JUst my take on all this. Sometimes there's just no good answers.
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I agree. The issue is that during regular season we only had one or maybe 2 times this happened and we had an alternate ready. Then the cut happened and we lost a second consistent guy. At that point it was to late to get a quality guy and I had assurances making weight wouldn't be an issue. By the time it was an obvious problem. We where nearly a lame duck in regards to playoffs and there wasn't much talent so I chose to roll the dice and recruit for the Grand Prix.
I think the cut and making those players ineligible to jump ship really eliminated the market for free agents. If there had been viable replacements I would've gotten someone else in. Why take the risk with an unknown guy when you have assurances from the two vets you got. There is no guarantee we would get a noob and him even stick around for more than a fight or 2. How many guys fight an event and disappear.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: buffaloblue
Date: July 29, 2017 at 02:09 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/ijfl-week-9-head-to-head.71473/

Maggot, I am concerned about you, this is a rational well thought out post. Report to the hospital.
I do get both sides, but the one thing we have to end is teams mailing it in. The hope when we go to 8 is if a team fails to show up or perorm consistantly it opens the door if someoen else would like to captainn a team.
We stretched teams out sooooo bad this year cause of 14 idiot teams wanting to show up.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: buffaloblue
Date: July 29, 2017 at 02:11 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/ijfl-week-9-head-to-head.71473/

but if your a lame duck, those lame ducks have to understand they effect other people. I am not just saying you all or anything, but hell we got a cheaper win last week cause of it and now another team gets a different chance this week.
The hope is we move to 7 people and 8 teams is a couple things. A there are quality people out there, and B if you miss weight in that format, your gone and another team can replace you. I dont give a s--- lame duck or not, that will lose you your team.
Gibbs said:
I agree. The issue is that during regular season we only had one or maybe 2 times this happened and we had an alternate ready. Then the cut happened and we lost a second consistent guy. At that point it was to late to get a quality guy and I had assurances making weight wouldn't be an issue. By the time it was an obvious problem. We where nearly a lame duck in regards to playoffs and there wasn't much talent so I chose to roll the dice and recruit for the Grand Prix.
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[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: Gibbs
Date: July 29, 2017 at 02:12 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/ijfl-week-9-head-to-head.71473/

buffaloblue said:
Maggot, I am concerned about you, this is a rational well thought out post. Report to the hospital.
I do get both sides, but the one thing we have to end is teams mailing it in. The hope when we go to 8 is if a team fails to show up or perorm consistantly it opens the door if someoen else would like to captainn a team.
We stretched teams out sooooo bad this year cause of 14 idiot teams wanting to show up.
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When you made the ineligible player post cut rule did you thing the small free agent pool would be an issue?

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: Gibbs
Date: July 29, 2017 at 02:17 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/ijfl-week-9-head-to-head.71473/

buffaloblue said:
but if your a lame duck, those lame ducks have to understand they effect other people. I am not just saying you all or anything, but hell we got a cheaper win last week cause of it and now another team gets a different chance this week.
The hope is we move to 7 people and 8 teams is a couple things. A there are quality people out there, and B if you miss weight in that format, your gone and another team can replace you. I dont give a s--- lame duck or not, that will lose you your team.
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Ok and where am I supposed to find two quality guys this late in the season usually in years passed this is when I would've gone to lower ranked teams and found someone but that opportunity was eliminated.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: maggotbrain
Date: July 29, 2017 at 02:24 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/ijfl-week-9-head-to-head.71473/

buffaloblue said:
Maggot, I am concerned about you, this is a rational well thought out post. Report to the hospital.
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1- I'm only a Firestone Walker and two Daisy Cutter Pale Ales deep with only a few dabs to ice the cake so far. It's an all day process to acquire the perfect buzz I'm looking for
2- wait..what? I'm kinda getting stoned watching Ozark befor UFC right now. What were we arguing about again?

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: Gibbs
Date: July 29, 2017 at 02:28 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/ijfl-week-9-head-to-head.71473/

maggotbrain said:
1- I'm only a Firestone Walker and two Daisy Cutter Pale Ales deep with only a few dabs to ice the cake so far. It's an all day process to acquire the perfect buzz I'm looking for
2- wait..what? I'm kinda getting stoned watching Ozark befor UFC right now. What were we arguing about again?
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Is that show any good?

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: buffaloblue
Date: July 29, 2017 at 02:30 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/ijfl-week-9-head-to-head.71473/

Gibbs said:
When you made the ineligible player post cut rule did you thing the small free agent pool would be an issue?
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Of the three I was the most in support of it.
They made me realize it would be total s--- to allow.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: maggotbrain
Date: July 29, 2017 at 02:31 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/ijfl-week-9-head-to-head.71473/

Gibbs said:
Is that show any good?
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First episode just f---ing killed it

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: Gibbs
Date: July 29, 2017 at 02:34 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/ijfl-week-9-head-to-head.71473/

buffaloblue said:
Of the three I was the most in support of it.
They made me realize it would be total s--- to allow.
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I mean i see the logic but at the same time it goes hand in hand with weight issues. When the majority of consistent players get eliminated it makes it much harder for teams to find consistent replacements.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: renjr84
Date: July 29, 2017 at 02:45 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/ijfl-week-9-head-to-head.71473/

Hey blue what's the chances the final 4 teams get guaranteed spots next ijfl

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: buffaloblue
Date: July 29, 2017 at 02:45 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/ijfl-week-9-head-to-head.71473/

renjr84 said:
Hey blue what's the chances the final 4 teams get guaranteed spots next ijfl
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Zero

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: maggotbrain
Date: July 29, 2017 at 04:08 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/ijfl-week-9-head-to-head.71473/

buffaloblue said:
Zero
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Really? What will determine it?

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: Gibbs
Date: July 29, 2017 at 05:25 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/ijfl-week-9-head-to-head.71473/

maggotbrain said:
Really? What will determine it?
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Yeah that's a good question

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: buffaloblue
Date: July 29, 2017 at 06:23 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/ijfl-week-9-head-to-head.71473/

There will be 8 Captains that are selected to have teams. Now obviously there will be some credence giving to longer standing teams that consistently show up.
I would say 99 percent of the people can think of the obvious 6 or 7.
After that, theres gonna be some shitty decisions, but decisions that have to be made.
maggotbrain said:
Really? What will determine it?
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[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: Gibbs
Date: July 29, 2017 at 06:26 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/ijfl-week-9-head-to-head.71473/

buffaloblue said:
There will be 8 Captains that are selected to have teams. Now obviously there will be some credence giving to longer standing teams that consistently show up.
I would say 99 percent of the people can think of the obvious 6 or 7.
After that, theres gonna be some shitty decisions, but decisions that have to be made.
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I fully expect to be one of those captains considering a one off season shouldn't disqualify Team Havoc and it's a mockery to of an IJFL to attempt to bar one of the best teams hands down season after season.
There's absolutely 0 way you can justify keeping a team like Havoc out of the 8 chosen teams when they are one of the best squads all time due to having one bad season. Even with everything going on Havoc STILL made the cut. That in and of itself is impressive.
Any attempt to not include us is done purely out of spite and bigotry against Havoc.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: buffaloblue
Date: July 29, 2017 at 06:52 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/ijfl-week-9-head-to-head.71473/

Like I stated, I thought your no showing puts you on the bubble, but just like plenty of bubble teams there are people who are expected to get in. Thats kinda where I see you al, cause theres nothing really else you can do to f--- it up at this point.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: renjr84
Date: July 31, 2017 at 07:20 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/ijfl-week-9-head-to-head.71473/

That's cool that its a zero percent chance, you always b---- and moan about wanting new people yet eliminating us especially if we win basically eliminates 3 fighters who more than likely won't be fighting here anymore but you do you and then b---- and moan why we don't have as many fighters as we once did