Originally posted by: LUVufc Date: July 14, 2011 at 08:13 AM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/is-melvin-guillards-record-padded-on-ufc-com.40447/
i was wondering if someone could find me a site that lists the fighters Melvin has fought that has the same 46-9 record the UFC website has. Every site i see that is willing to list exactly who he has fought has him at 29-8. Im not the best with finding stuff on the internet but if Guillard has a 17-1 record in those other fights then finding out who he fought shouldnt be that hard to find.
Originally posted by: PsychoIcon Date: July 14, 2011 at 08:44 AM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/is-melvin-guillards-record-padded-on-ufc-com.40447/
Go to Wikipedia.com and you will see how they earned each win, where, what round, how, and you can add up his UFC record and his record elsewhere....
www.wikipedia.com
Originally posted by: residency Date: July 14, 2011 at 08:48 AM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/is-melvin-guillards-record-padded-on-ufc-com.40447/
PsychoIcon said:
Go to Wikipedia.com and you will see how they earned each win, where, what round, how, and you can add up his UFC record and his record elsewhere....
www.wikipedia.com
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It's actually en.wikipedia.org mate.
But yeah, a lot of fighters have bumped records (padded is the same as can crushing, basically). Three that instantly come to mind are:
Cheick Kongo: +10 wins.
Rashad Evans: +5 wins.
Chris Lytle: +10 wins, -1 draw.
Originally posted by: PsychoIcon Date: July 14, 2011 at 08:51 AM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/is-melvin-guillards-record-padded-on-ufc-com.40447/
residency said:
PsychoIcon said:
Go to Wikipedia.com and you will see how they earned each win, where, what round, how, and you can add up his UFC record and his record elsewhere....
www.wikipedia.com
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It's actually en.wikipedia.org mate.
But yeah, a lot of fighters have bumped records (padded is the same as can crushing, basically). Three that instantly come to mind are:
Cheick Kongo: +10 wins.
Rashad Evans: +5 wins.
Chris Lytle: +10 wins, -1 draw.
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Lmao, Have you seen Alistairs competition? Jeezus!
Originally posted by: residency Date: July 14, 2011 at 08:53 AM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/is-melvin-guillards-record-padded-on-ufc-com.40447/
PsychoIcon said:
residency said:
PsychoIcon said:
Go to Wikipedia.com and you will see how they earned each win, where, what round, how, and you can add up his UFC record and his record elsewhere....
www.wikipedia.com
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It's actually en.wikipedia.org mate.
But yeah, a lot of fighters have bumped records (padded is the same as can crushing, basically). Three that instantly come to mind are:
Cheick Kongo: +10 wins.
Rashad Evans: +5 wins.
Chris Lytle: +10 wins, -1 draw.
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Lmao, Have you seen Alistairs competition? Jeezus!
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Overeem? Yeah, I made that point every time that someone tried to rank him top five before he beat Werdum (I still don't think he should be top five btw).
Originally posted by: PsychoIcon Date: July 14, 2011 at 08:54 AM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/is-melvin-guillards-record-padded-on-ufc-com.40447/
residency said:
PsychoIcon said:
residency said:
It's actually en.wikipedia.org mate.
But yeah, a lot of fighters have bumped records (padded is the same as can crushing, basically). Three that instantly come to mind are:
Cheick Kongo: +10 wins.
Rashad Evans: +5 wins.
Chris Lytle: +10 wins, -1 draw.
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Lmao, Have you seen Alistairs competition? Jeezus!
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Overeem? Yeah, I made that point every time that someone tried to rank him top five before he beat Werdum (I still don't think he should be top five btw).
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O I was about to type .org, but I couldnt remember what was what. Cool a fellow Overeem hater... well you may not be a hater, but I am!!!~ :twisted:
Originally posted by: REDRUM Date: July 14, 2011 at 08:56 AM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/is-melvin-guillards-record-padded-on-ufc-com.40447/
Originally posted by: KungFuHustle Date: July 14, 2011 at 08:59 AM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/is-melvin-guillards-record-padded-on-ufc-com.40447/
you want to talk about padded records ay? I've been watching tuf 4 lately <3! They had shonie carter listed as 177 12 2 the 177 is the only I remember exactly the lose and draw might be off a tiny bit, then on his second fight it changed to something like 87 12, lol wtf happened
Originally posted by: residency Date: July 14, 2011 at 09:02 AM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/is-melvin-guillards-record-padded-on-ufc-com.40447/
theREDRUM said:
with that said wikipedia still only credits (shows)
29 wins
for Melvin.....
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All Wikipedia records are direct from Sherdog, so Sherdog's Fight Finder only has Guillard's 29-8-2 record.
Originally posted by: PsychoIcon Date: July 14, 2011 at 09:31 AM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/is-melvin-guillards-record-padded-on-ufc-com.40447/
Originally posted by: residency Date: July 14, 2011 at 09:53 AM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/is-melvin-guillards-record-padded-on-ufc-com.40447/
PsychoIcon said:
Guillard is 11-4 in the UFC
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10-4. (W - Marcus Davis, Rick Davis, Gabe Ruediger, Dennis Siver, Gleison Tibau, Ronnys Torres, Waylon Lowe, Jeremy Stephens, Evan Dunham and Shane Roller, L - Josh Neer, Joe Stevenson, Rich Clementi, Nate Diaz).
Originally posted by: Warborn Date: July 14, 2011 at 11:40 AM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/is-melvin-guillards-record-padded-on-ufc-com.40447/
Originally posted by: residency Date: July 14, 2011 at 11:58 AM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/is-melvin-guillards-record-padded-on-ufc-com.40447/
Warborn said:
MMAUniverse.com
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They have Guillard's two TUF losses to Josh Burkman in there (TUF fights are not pro fights), and his No Contest with Roger Huerta is listed as a win when in fact it was overturned for greasing.
So MMA Universe has the same record as everyone else...
Originally posted by: PsychoIcon Date: July 14, 2011 at 12:02 PM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/is-melvin-guillards-record-padded-on-ufc-com.40447/
residency said:
Warborn said:
MMAUniverse.com
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They have Guillard's two TUF losses to Josh Burkman in there (TUF fights are not pro fights), and his No Contest with Roger Huerta is listed as a win when in fact it was overturned for greasing.
So MMA Universe has the same record as everyone else...
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Im a wikipedia fan so im going to stick to that.
Originally posted by: Jak Date: July 14, 2011 at 12:08 PM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/is-melvin-guillards-record-padded-on-ufc-com.40447/
PsychoIcon said:
Go to Wikipedia.com and you will see how they earned each win, where, what round, how, and you can add up his UFC record and his record elsewhere....
www.wikipedia.com
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Not only that, but you can change it to fit whatever argument you need to win.
Originally posted by: PsychoIcon Date: July 14, 2011 at 12:09 PM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/is-melvin-guillards-record-padded-on-ufc-com.40447/
Jak said:
PsychoIcon said:
Go to Wikipedia.com and you will see how they earned each win, where, what round, how, and you can add up his UFC record and his record elsewhere....
www.wikipedia.com
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Not only that, but you can change it to fit whatever argument you need to win.
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lol this is true...
Originally posted by: Gibbs Date: July 14, 2011 at 12:27 PM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/is-melvin-guillards-record-padded-on-ufc-com.40447/
Originally posted by: PsychoIcon Date: July 14, 2011 at 12:31 PM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/is-melvin-guillards-record-padded-on-ufc-com.40447/
Gibbs101 said:
sometimes they include amateur records idk y
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Wikipedia gives as much information on that person as possible, good or bad. Its any and all history, not just important.
Originally posted by: armbarandgrill Date: July 14, 2011 at 12:34 PM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/is-melvin-guillards-record-padded-on-ufc-com.40447/
amazing record there melvin!
the good ol' UFC...keeping MMA fake as long as possible lol
fake records
fake weight classes
fake contenders
too bad the name WWE is already taken!
Originally posted by: mmablaster Date: July 14, 2011 at 12:59 PM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/is-melvin-guillards-record-padded-on-ufc-com.40447/
S-dog's fight finder is pretty good, especially for big shows, but it isn't 100% accurate. Fighters do take unsanctioned fights that don't always make it on there. Some fights overseas don't make it, same with Indian Reservation fights or real small shows. Especially back 5-15 years ago. I've been to a couple events where they had pro fights, but they didn't make it on S-Dog b/c the event wasn't sanctioned.
Some small shows have the main event listed on s-dog, but none of the other pro fights.
EX- http://www.sherdog.com/events/WWFC-2-Neer-vs-Case-16715
*There were many pro fights on there, only has the main event with Josh Neer listed.