Is Nick Diaz AUTISTIC?

Originally posted by: 67goat
Date: February 05, 2015 at 01:30 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/is-nick-diaz-autistic.65419/

Not being a medical doctor or a mental health professional, I am not making a diagnosis, but below is a different take on what may be going on.
NicoSuave said:
Now, let's examine some of Nick Diaz's behaviors over the past couple of years:
[*]Vocalized his love of the Pride style of fighting, and an unwillingness to evolve with the times (unwillingness to adapt).
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Most people do not like change. It is why there is so often a big gap in how the different generations see the world. It is also why, in the US, we often forgive or dismiss "casual" racism in older people (they grew up in a different time). That's not to say that there aren't a lot of people that can adapt or that like change, just that a person not adapting is fairly common (and actually more normal than people that like change).
[*]Disappears multiple times during fight week (abnormal behavior/anxious impulse).
[*]Misses press events (abnormal behavior/anxious impulse).
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Both Diaz brothers have trouble communicating what they are actually thinking. This leads to feelings of being misunderstood at best, and being targeted at worst. In either case, this would not make most people want to talk with the media. The trouble communicating could be related to a learning disorder or ADHD, rather than autism. What I think is telling is that if you remove the media, Nick is generally fairly talkative and affable. If it was really related to autism, I would expect the behaviors to be more consistent across social situations.
[*]Smokes weed at the worst possible times (abnormal behavior, anxious impulse, bad routine).
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You obviously do not live in California or Stockton. These are neither abnormal or impulse behavior (well, no more than eating is). I know fewer Stocktonites that don't smoke than that do, and I know business leaders, teachers, cops, firefighters, and council members. I would not be surprised if criminals riding in the back of a police cruiser get handed a lit joint by the arresting officers. Also, the only reason it is a bad routine is that he has a job where he gets tested.
[*]Runs triathlons out of boredom (good routine).
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I agree this shows signs of mental illness. Only crazy people run for fun, or at all.
[*]Unwillingness to leave the Skrap Pack (unwillingness to adapt).
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Not leaving your herd is a genetically pre-programmed behavior. People that are able to do that are actually the abnormal ones.
[*]Fought Joe Riggs in a hospital (abnormal behavior).
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Upbringing, and being from Stockton. Stockton has always had a high crime rate and lots of gang activity. Many people don't know this, but Stockton is a huge inland port (huge tanker ships can actually float all the way in from the ocean), and a lot of drugs come through the city. Two of the past three years Forbes has claimed Stockton the most miserable place in the country to live (worse than Detroit). The sad thing is that Stockton is actually better off now than when Diaz was growing up. Not to say all Stocktonians would fight in a hospital, just that it's a pretty rough and tumble kind of place.
 
Originally posted by: Jak
Date: February 05, 2015 at 01:59 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/is-nick-diaz-autistic.65419/

DimMak said:
I'll bite on this and say yes.
In the middle of a police station right before you are processed would be pretty close to the top of the list
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Umm... that would be the best time to.
1) they're going to confiscate it from you during the processing, better to use it or lose it
2) you're about to be processed, you're kind of under stress. better to relieve that.
3) i don't remember what i was going to say due lack of cognitive memory functions....
 
Originally posted by: Spud
Date: February 05, 2015 at 02:04 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/is-nick-diaz-autistic.65419/

Without actually spending time with him it's pretty much impossible to diagnose him with something like that, but from what we know about him I don't think it's likely. He's clearly not comfortable in front of the spotlight when it comes to stuff like press conferences but I wouldn't say that's an indication of autism.
 
Originally posted by: Flound
Date: February 05, 2015 at 02:08 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/is-nick-diaz-autistic.65419/

RastaThug said:
Not a chance is he autistic. Theres a huge difference between autism and aspergers. You're able to communicate with people. You can even type. I know a few people with autistic children and the kids are completely unable to communicate and I don't know what they will have to do as they get older. Must be extremely difficult because autistic people often need 24/hr care. Maybe there is different degrees of autism though,
I don't know I'm not a doctor.
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FTFY.
 
Originally posted by: Flound
Date: February 05, 2015 at 02:09 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/is-nick-diaz-autistic.65419/

67goat said:
Not being a medical doctor or a mental health professional, I am not making a diagnosis, but below is a different take on what may be going on.
Most people do not like change. It is why there is so often a big gap in how the different generations see the world. It is also why, in the US, we often forgive or dismiss "casual" racism in older people (they grew up in a different time). That's not to say that there aren't a lot of people that can adapt or that like change, just that a person not adapting is fairly common (and actually more normal than people that like change).
Both Diaz brothers have trouble communicating what they are actually thinking. This leads to feelings of being misunderstood at best, and being targeted at worst. In either case, this would not make most people want to talk with the media. The trouble communicating could be related to a learning disorder or ADHD, rather than autism. What I think is telling is that if you remove the media, Nick is generally fairly talkative and affable. If it was really related to autism, I would expect the behaviors to be more consistent across social situations.
You obviously do not live in California or Stockton. These are neither abnormal or impulse behavior (well, no more than eating is). I know fewer Stocktonites that don't smoke than that do, and I know business leaders, teachers, cops, firefighters, and council members. I would not be surprised if criminals riding in the back of a police cruiser get handed a lit joint by the arresting officers. Also, the only reason it is a bad routine is that he has a job where he gets tested.
I agree this shows signs of mental illness. Only crazy people run for fun, or at all.
Not leaving your herd is a genetically pre-programmed behavior. People that are able to do that are actually the abnormal ones.
Upbringing, and being from Stockton. Stockton has always had a high crime rate and lots of gang activity. Many people don't know this, but Stockton is a huge inland port (huge tanker ships can actually float all the way in from the ocean), and a lot of drugs come through the city. Two of the past three years Forbes has claimed Stockton the most miserable place in the country to live (worse than Detroit). The sad thing is that Stockton is actually better off now than when Diaz was growing up. Not to say all Stocktonians would fight in a hospital, just that it's a pretty rough and tumble kind of place.
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And again, the Goat speaks TRUTH. The Goat is the WORD.
 
Originally posted by: Spud
Date: February 05, 2015 at 02:13 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/is-nick-diaz-autistic.65419/

RastaThug said:
Not a chance is he autistic. Theres a huge difference between autism and aspergers. You're able to communicate with people. You can even type. I know a few people with autistic children and the kids are completely unable to communicate and I don't know what they will have to do as they get older. Must be extremely difficult because autistic people often need 24/hr care. Maybe there is different degrees of autism though, I don't know I'm not a doctor.
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Aspergers is an autism spectrum disorder. Autism isn't a simply 'you have it or you don't' disorder, there are wildly varying degrees of it.
 
Originally posted by: DimMak
Date: February 05, 2015 at 02:15 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/is-nick-diaz-autistic.65419/

DimMak said:
I'll bite on this and say yes.
In the middle of a police station right before you are processed would be pretty close to the top of the list for not smoking weed
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Jak said:
Umm... that would be the best time to.
1) they're going to confiscate it from you during the processing, better to use it or lose it
2) you're about to be processed, you're kind of under stress. better to relieve that.
3) i don't remember what i was going to say due lack of cognitive memory functions....
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I knew somebody was going to say that bc I was thinking it while I typed it lol
If he was smoking a doopie, this picture would have been epic!
 
Originally posted by: Spidy
Date: February 05, 2015 at 02:17 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/is-nick-diaz-autistic.65419/

BRF said:
before going to an all you can eat buffet
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Pffft, shows what you know. That's the BEST time ;
Now grocery shopping? Totally different story
 
Originally posted by: RastaThug
Date: February 05, 2015 at 02:22 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/is-nick-diaz-autistic.65419/

Spud said:
Aspergers is an autism spectrum disorder. Autism isn't a simply 'you have it or you don't' disorder, there are wildly varying degrees of it.
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Ya I know, I've seen several people with Aspergers who can communicate normally and you wouldn't even know they had an Autistic disorder. But anyone I've seen who has Autism was completely unable to communicate or function normally. Aspergers seems much more managable but then maybe there are some worse cases of Aspergers and some not so bad cases of Autism? As I said I'm not a doctor but I'm pretty sure Aspergers is the much milder disorder compared to Autism.
 
Originally posted by: thedoop
Date: February 05, 2015 at 02:25 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/is-nick-diaz-autistic.65419/

f--- I misspelled autistic
 
Originally posted by: Spidy
Date: February 05, 2015 at 02:25 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/is-nick-diaz-autistic.65419/

RastaThug said:
Ya I know, I've seen several people with Aspergers who can communicate normally and you wouldn't even know they had an Autistic disorder. But anyone I've seen who has Autism was completely unable to communicate or function normally. Aspergers seems much more managable but then maybe there are some worse cases of Aspergers and some not so bad cases of Autism? As I said I'm not a doctor but I'm pretty sure Aspergers is the much milder disorder compared to Autism.
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Dude. Spud kinda just spelt it out for ya
 
Originally posted by: Spud
Date: February 05, 2015 at 02:27 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/is-nick-diaz-autistic.65419/

RastaThug said:
Ya I know, I've seen several people with Aspergers who can communicate normally and you wouldn't even know they had an Autistic disorder. But anyone I've seen who has Autism was completely unable to communicate or function normally. Aspergers seems much more managable but then maybe there are some worse cases of Aspergers and some not so bad cases of Autism? As I said I'm not a doctor but I'm pretty sure Aspergers is the much milder disorder compared to Autism.
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I think you're misunderstanding, aspergers is a form of autism. They're not completely separate disorders.
 
Originally posted by: 67goat
Date: February 05, 2015 at 02:28 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/is-nick-diaz-autistic.65419/

Spud said:
Aspergers is an autism spectrum disorder. Autism isn't a simply 'you have it or you don't' disorder, there are wildly varying degrees of it.
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To be fair, until DSM-V Aspergers was a separate diagnosis from Autism (though some considered it to be part of the spectrum). Technically, under DSM-V Aspergers doesn't even exist anymore, everything is simply Autism Spectrum. Not all doctors and patients are ready to move on to DSM-V yet.
 
Originally posted by: smartigan
Date: February 05, 2015 at 02:31 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/is-nick-diaz-autistic.65419/

Now, let's examine some of Nick Diaz's behaviors over the past couple of years:
Vocalized his love of the Pride style of fighting, and an unwillingness to evolve with the times (unwillingness to adapt).
He likes to fight to a finish not win on points as do many others, are you for lay n pray wins or against?
Disappears multiple times during fight week (abnormal behavior/anxious impulse).
It's not abnormal, it's called not giving a f--- about media duties
Misses press events (abnormal behavior/anxious impulse).
See above
Smokes weed at the worst possible times (abnormal behavior, anxious impulse, bad routine).
Likes weed. He believes he can cleans his body before tests which he has done all his career (obviously he failed to do so 3 times)
It's not abnormal
Runs triathlons out of boredom (good routine).
Loves the sport and if he could make money from it he wouldn't be a fighter
Unwillingness to leave the Skrap Pack (unwillingness to adapt).
really? So Cain needs to leave AKA or is he unwilling to adapt if he stays, how about Jon Jones leaving Greg Jackons?
Fought Joe Riggs in a hospital (abnormal behavior).
Happens every weekend where I'm from
 
Originally posted by: RastaThug
Date: February 05, 2015 at 02:46 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/is-nick-diaz-autistic.65419/

Spud said:
I think you're misunderstanding, aspergers is a form of autism. They're not completely separate disorders.
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They are two seperate disorders. Some people are diagnosed with Aspergers, others are diagnosed with Autism. They're both Autism Spectrum disorders.
(Aspergers from wikipedia): It differs from other autism spectrum disorders by its relative preservation of
linguistic
and
cognitive development
.
Ya thats what I thought, Aspergers is the much more functional Autistic disorder. I've yet to see a functional Autistic person.
 
Originally posted by: NicoSuave
Date: February 05, 2015 at 02:54 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/is-nick-diaz-autistic.65419/

I'd like to take back that part about leaving the Skrap Pack. That was a bad example.
 
Originally posted by: DimMak
Date: February 05, 2015 at 03:03 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/is-nick-diaz-autistic.65419/

NicoSuave said:
I'd like to take back that part about leaving the Skrap Pack. That was a bad example.
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I thought you had an unwillingness to adapt to change?? No takesy-backsies
For real though, I was unaware of your diagnoses and have always enjoyed your posts! You definitely changed my naive stereotype for Aspergers.
 
Originally posted by: princecharlestampon
Date: February 05, 2015 at 03:12 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/is-nick-diaz-autistic.65419/

RastaThug said:
Not a chance is he autistic. Theres a huge difference between autism and aspergers. You're able to communicate with people. You can even type. I know a few people with autistic children and the kids are completely unable to communicate and I don't know what they will have to do as they get older. Must be extremely difficult because autistic people often need 24/hr care. Maybe there is different degrees of autism though, I don't know I'm not a doctor.
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There are different degrees of autism. My eldest daughter is autistic, she'll be 16 next month. While she can joke around (in her own way), talk for the sake of talking (she loves the sound of her own voice but doesn't necessarily make sense most of the time) and is extremely sarcastic, she is also very socially awkward, reckless, impetus, immature, very child-like and naive and needs to be looked after like a 6 year old would. I could go on and on but I just wanted to put that out there...(re: different degrees of autism).
 
Originally posted by: princecharlestampon
Date: February 05, 2015 at 03:14 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/is-nick-diaz-autistic.65419/

RastaThug said:
They are two seperate disorders. Some people are diagnosed with Aspergers, others are diagnosed with Autism. They're both Autism Spectrum disorders.
(Aspergers from wikipedia): It differs from other autism spectrum disorders by its relative preservation of
linguistic
and
cognitive development
.
Ya thats what I thought, Aspergers is the much more functional Autistic disorder. I've yet to see a functional Autistic person.
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My daughter is one.
 
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