Originally posted by: Thak27 Date: October 28, 2010 at 04:05 PM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/is-the-ufc-protecting-anderson-silva-in-the-mw-division.31804/
We all know the formula for beating Anderson Silva - high level wrestling with good submission defense. Unfortunately the Middleweight division offers just one skilled wrestler among it's top contenders in Chael Sonnen, but he has horrible submission defense. So my question is this: IS THE UFC PROTECTING ANDERSON SILVA BY KEEPING HIM IN THE MIDDLEWEIGHT DIVISION? He doesn't have to worry about guys like GSP or Jon fitch in the Welterweight division who could easily take him down, control him on the ground and avoid a submission. And the same holds true if Silva were to move up to the light-heavyweight division. Instead of facing guys like Rashad Evans and Randy Couture, 2 great wrestlers who never get caught in submissions, they put Silva against Forrest Griffen & James Irvin - 2 strikers with 0 wrestling skills (yawn).
I'm getting real tired of the UFC pitting Anderson Silva against the Patrick Cote's, Demian Maia's & Thales Leites's of the world who offer no threat of a takedown. And yes I know Silva beat a great wrestler in Dan Henderson, but Henderson's decision to stand with Silva in the 2nd round is why he lost that fight.
Originally posted by: JonnyRico Date: October 28, 2010 at 04:07 PM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/is-the-ufc-protecting-anderson-silva-in-the-mw-division.31804/
Thak27 said:
We all know the formula for beating Anderson Silva - high level wrestling with good submission defense. Unfortunately the Middleweight division offers just one skilled wrestler among it's top contenders in Chael Sonnen, but he has horrible submission defense. So my question is this: IS THE UFC PROTECTING ANDERSON SILVA BY KEEPING HIM IN THE MIDDLEWEIGHT DIVISION? He doesn't have to worry about guys like GSP or Jon fitch in the Welterweight division who could easily take him down, control him on the ground and avoid a submission. And the same holds true if Silva were to move up to the light-heavyweight division. Instead of facing guys like Rashad Evans and Randy Couture, 2 great wrestlers who never get caught in submissions, they put Silva against Forrest Griffen & James Irvin - 2 strikers with 0 wrestling skills (yawn).
I'm getting real tired of the UFC pitting Anderson Silva against the Patrick Cote's, Demian Maia's & Thales Leites's of the world who offer no threat of a takedown. And yes I know Silva beat a great wrestler in Dan Henderson, but Henderson's decision to stand with Silva in the 2nd round is why he lost that fight.
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are you a jesse ventura fan at all?
Originally posted by: wolf Date: October 28, 2010 at 04:08 PM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/is-the-ufc-protecting-anderson-silva-in-the-mw-division.31804/
Ya I think the UFC has purposely avoided putting him against solid LHW's and signing good wrestlers with sub defense solely for the purpose of protecting Anderson Silva... :|
Originally posted by: JonnyRico Date: October 28, 2010 at 04:09 PM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/is-the-ufc-protecting-anderson-silva-in-the-mw-division.31804/
Originally posted by: smfowns4 Date: October 28, 2010 at 04:10 PM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/is-the-ufc-protecting-anderson-silva-in-the-mw-division.31804/
Obviously not. The UFC had given Anderson Silva the best fighters to fight. Nate Marquardt, Dan Henderson, Rich Franklin, Thias Leites all had great takedown offense but failed to win. Chael had a chance but submitted. Wrestlers have to earn their spot, which not many have. Yushin Okami will have his chance @ UFC 124.
Originally posted by: Gutter Date: October 28, 2010 at 04:12 PM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/is-the-ufc-protecting-anderson-silva-in-the-mw-division.31804/
Originally posted by: JonnyRico Date: October 28, 2010 at 04:14 PM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/is-the-ufc-protecting-anderson-silva-in-the-mw-division.31804/
Gutter said:
Hey Johnny Rico......
this is weird.
http://forums.mmajunkie.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=31801&p=848730#p848730
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yeah i saw it there haha i figured this should just be the picture people post when threads like this one and that one are made
Originally posted by: HBK42581 Date: October 28, 2010 at 04:15 PM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/is-the-ufc-protecting-anderson-silva-in-the-mw-division.31804/
Didn't the UFC basically make him move up in weight those two times? All I've been hearing from AS lately is that HE is the one that wants to stay at MW and defend his title.
Originally posted by: Gutter Date: October 28, 2010 at 04:15 PM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/is-the-ufc-protecting-anderson-silva-in-the-mw-division.31804/
JonnyRico said:
Gutter said:
Hey Johnny Rico......
this is weird.
http://forums.mmajunkie.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=31801&p=848730#p848730
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yeah i saw it there haha i figured this should just be the picture people post when threads like this one and that one are made
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MANLAW!!!!!
Originally posted by: Thak27 Date: October 28, 2010 at 05:22 PM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/is-the-ufc-protecting-anderson-silva-in-the-mw-division.31804/
JonnyRico said:
I knew this thread was a lolz when i saw he only had 15 posts. the nyou always know what to expect :lol:
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You're right, JonnyRico. I never knew credibility and post count go hand in hand. I guess I should raise my post count by replying with meaningful and informative posts like yours above huh? Never mind the fact that I'm a former college wrestler that's competed in MMA tournaments in the past and has been following the UFC since the mid 90's.
Anyway, my point is that Silva's success has a lot to do with the division he's in. Every division in the UFC is dominated by wrestlers EXCEPT the Middleweight division. Just look at all the top 2 contenders from each divison. With the exception of Shogun in the LHW division, they're all wrestlers:
Lightweight:
Maynard & Edgar
Welterweight:
GSP & Koscheck
Light-heavyweight:
Rashad
& Shogun
Heavyweight:
Cain & Brock
Originally posted by: JonnyRico Date: October 28, 2010 at 05:37 PM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/is-the-ufc-protecting-anderson-silva-in-the-mw-division.31804/
Thak27 said:
JonnyRico said:
I knew this thread was a lolz when i saw he only had 15 posts. the nyou always know what to expect :lol:
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You're right, JonnyRico. I never knew credibility and post count go hand in hand. I guess I should raise my post count by replying with meaningful and informative posts like yours above huh?
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im glad were on the same page at least
you unfortunately fit the description of most trolls. and its these conspiracy type topics that tend to be posted by trolls. Chill out.
and im obviously not the only one not taking this thread seriously
Originally posted by: EdoKaz818 Date: October 28, 2010 at 05:39 PM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/is-the-ufc-protecting-anderson-silva-in-the-mw-division.31804/
Originally posted by: micmeraz Date: October 28, 2010 at 05:47 PM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/is-the-ufc-protecting-anderson-silva-in-the-mw-division.31804/
Originally posted by: Panther78 Date: October 28, 2010 at 06:50 PM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/is-the-ufc-protecting-anderson-silva-in-the-mw-division.31804/
Originally posted by: EdoKaz818 Date: October 28, 2010 at 06:54 PM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/is-the-ufc-protecting-anderson-silva-in-the-mw-division.31804/
MightyMike said:
Yep..Their defending him by giving him Vitor Belfort, the most devastating striker Anderson Silva has ever faced.
Jon Fitch??? :lol:
Good One Man..
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Hey Fitch has a good chance to lol. The man can do everything besides finish but still can beat AS
Originally posted by: buckhunter620 Date: October 28, 2010 at 07:01 PM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/is-the-ufc-protecting-anderson-silva-in-the-mw-division.31804/
Originally posted by: BigBadBre Date: October 28, 2010 at 07:01 PM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/is-the-ufc-protecting-anderson-silva-in-the-mw-division.31804/
I mostly agree with OP. Long-time posters that flame him for using the word "protecting" on the basis that he has 16 posts so can't possibly mean it aren't right.
One new guy made however many sly threads on Brock sucking and that was conveniently overlooked, but we shouldn't dare say Silva had a much easier road than he could of or should of had.
Originally posted by: wolf Date: October 28, 2010 at 07:07 PM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/is-the-ufc-protecting-anderson-silva-in-the-mw-division.31804/
Thak27 said:
You're right, JonnyRico. I never knew credibility and post count go hand in hand. I guess I should raise my post count by replying with meaningful and informative posts like yours above huh? Never mind the fact that I'm a former college wrestler that's competed in MMA tournaments in the past and has been following the UFC since the mid 90's.
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Originally posted by: bionicsoy Date: October 28, 2010 at 10:01 PM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/is-the-ufc-protecting-anderson-silva-in-the-mw-division.31804/
Originally posted by: MajikToast Date: October 28, 2010 at 11:01 PM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/is-the-ufc-protecting-anderson-silva-in-the-mw-division.31804/
