Jon Fitch vs. Anderson Silva

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Originally posted by: Galgorian
Date: September 27, 2010 at 01:17 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/jon-fitch-vs-anderson-silva.30760/

ROSEMEAD, Calif. – Dec. 11 is a huge night for Jon Fitch's career.
That's the date the perennial welterweight contender will get an idea of where he's headed in the near future. He could meet the winner of Martin Kampmann vs. Jake Shields, slated for next month's UFC 121 event, or the winner of UFC 124's Georges St-Pierre vs. Josh Koscheck title fight.
But Fitch also sees a move to the middleweight class not too far down the road, and that trip could be expedited if American Kickboxing Academy teammate Koscheck wins St-Pierre's welterweight belt this winter.
"We have a philosophy at our gym that it would be much better to have three belts at AKA than to have two belts, and then send two guys to fight for the same belt," Fitch told MMAjunkie.com (www.mmajunkie.com) during a recent UFC Gym opening event in Rosemead, Calif. "So I feel like I can beat Anderson Silva, too, and GSP."
Teammate vs. teammate remains a taboo subject in AKA's stable. Following his win over Thiago Alves at UFC 117, Fitch told MMAjunkie.com Radio he will let Koscheck remain champion to avoid a possible showdown, though a $20 million payday might change his stance. But with that kind of payday about as likely as a UFC event on the White House lawn, the message was clear.
Mostly, though, Fitch and Koscheck have sidestepped questions about a potential meeting. It's often a condition of interviews that reporters not broach any questions about them fighting each other.
UFC president Dana White is staunchly opposed to AKA's unofficial policy and has promised it won't interfere with UFC matchmaking. Following UFC 117, he assured reporters that Koscheck and Fitch are coming around to the idea.
"What you're not hearing is 'No,'" White said following UFC 117. "I've said it before, and I'll say it again. From what I understand of Fitch and know of Koscheck, I believe they have the desire, heart and spirit to take this fight. There have been guys before who say, 'No way. We won't fight.' They aren't saying that. They aren't saying no."
For now, Fitch is using his time in limbo to improve his skills.
"I've got to wait to hear what's next," he said. "For me, it's just about getting back to the gym. I have things that I have to improve on, specific things I have outlined that I want to improve before my next fight, especially if it's a title shot. So I have a little time to do that."
Although he is not yet in the position to give a definitive answer, Fitch said a very limited number of fights interest him in the welterweight division.
"GSP is first on my list," he said. "But by the time I win the belt at 170, there will be one or two fights left because I will have fought everybody else, and I'll want to move up. That's just where my career will progress.
"Just like the other guys who want to fight the best in the world, I'm the same way. It's always been my intention to clear out 170 and move up. It's just one guy left, and I've been chasing him since the last loss, and I'll continue to chase him until I beat him and get the welterweight title and move up."
Fitch (23-3 MMA, 13-1 UFC) made his professional debut in July 2002 as a light heavyweight but dropped to the middleweight class less than a year later. He then fought three times at 185 pounds before shedding more weight for a year-plus stint at welterweight. In his UFC debut, he bulked back up to meet Brock Larson as a middleweight at UFC Fight Night 2 but subsequently returned to the welterweight class, where he's remained until today.
The former Purdue University wrestler has just one blemish on his welterweight resume – a unanimous-decision loss to St-Pierre at UFC 87.
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Originally posted by: IowaHawkeyes23
Date: September 27, 2010 at 03:33 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/jon-fitch-vs-anderson-silva.30760/

i think fitch has the wrestling and sub defense to beat silva. fitch is a great fighter for anyone and on any given night could beat silva
 
Originally posted by: bothrops
Date: September 27, 2010 at 03:51 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/jon-fitch-vs-anderson-silva.30760/

IowaHawkeyes23 said:
i think fitch has the wrestling and sub defense to beat silva. fitch is a great fighter for anyone and on any given night could beat silva
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Let me fix that for ya.... fitch is a great wrestler for anyone and on any given night could outwrestle silva.
 
Originally posted by: CF3
Date: September 27, 2010 at 03:54 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/jon-fitch-vs-anderson-silva.30760/

Fitch by human-blanket.
 
Originally posted by: smartigan
Date: September 27, 2010 at 03:57 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/jon-fitch-vs-anderson-silva.30760/

Silva would destroy him
 
Originally posted by: jsinsantino
Date: September 27, 2010 at 04:01 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/jon-fitch-vs-anderson-silva.30760/

as we seen anderson can be taken down but the difference between sonnen and fitch is that sonnen ground and pound is MuCH better fitch would lay on him until they stand them both back up and anderson rips him apart on the feet. anderson would win by knockout round 3
 
Originally posted by: Jak
Date: September 27, 2010 at 04:01 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/jon-fitch-vs-anderson-silva.30760/

I don't think fitch would even make it to Silva.
Okami, Marquardt, Sonnen, Belfort, Maia, Bisping, Akiyama, Palhares.... etc..
Those are all either big MW's, strong MW's or LHWs that have dropped down.
I remember when Swick fought Okami and between rounds commented on how much stronger Okami was... i could easily see this happening with Jon Fitch.
 
Originally posted by: wolf
Date: September 27, 2010 at 04:07 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/jon-fitch-vs-anderson-silva.30760/

Jak said:
I don't think fitch would even make it to Silva.
Okami, Marquardt, Sonnen, Belfort, Maia, Bisping, Akiyama, Palhares.... etc..
Those are all either big MW's, strong MW's or LHWs that have dropped down.
I remember when Swick fought Okami and between rounds commented on how much stronger Okami was... i could easily see this happening with Jon Fitch.
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This is true, but Fitch has fought at Middleweight and Light Heavyweight before. So this wouldn't be new to him. He walks around at 190-200 and I think could hold his own. He's a huge WW and with some added muscle could pack some power behind his GnP and wrestling takedowns. I might be in the minority here, but I think he could beat silva with his wrestling and actually have harder fights against guys like Marquardt, Palhares, Munoz etc. Other wrestlers who could go takedown for takedown against him.
 
Originally posted by: Jak
Date: September 27, 2010 at 04:17 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/jon-fitch-vs-anderson-silva.30760/

wolf said:
some added muscle could pack some power behind his GnP and wrestling takedowns. I might be in the minority here, but I think he could beat silva with his wrestling
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I would probably disagree. Any fighter can win on any night, but for me, Sonnen proved that you can put together the performance of a lifetime and still not beat Silva. If you have a plan to hold Silva down for 25 minutes... all Silva needs is one good punch or submission attempt and it's over.
Sonnen also has ground and pound and enough stand up to really rush Silva, i don't see that same type of aggression on the ground from Fitch, nor do i see that ability to use stand up to get the takedown.
 
Originally posted by: wolf
Date: September 27, 2010 at 04:26 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/jon-fitch-vs-anderson-silva.30760/

Jak said:
Sonnen also has ground and pound and enough stand up to really rush Silva, i don't see that same type of aggression on the ground from Fitch, nor do i see that ability to use stand up to get the takedown.
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touche
 
Originally posted by: bjj_rage
Date: September 27, 2010 at 04:28 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/jon-fitch-vs-anderson-silva.30760/

jsinsantino said:
as we seen anderson can be taken down but the difference between sonnen and fitch is that sonnen ground and pound is MuCH better fitch would lay on him until they stand them both back up and anderson rips him apart on the feet. anderson would win by knockout round 3
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Fitch does also has pretty good bjj... He isnt getting triangle any time soon the way sonnen was...
 
Originally posted by: Hitman21
Date: September 27, 2010 at 04:45 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/jon-fitch-vs-anderson-silva.30760/

If Fitch moves up, he will be in the title picture right away cause the division sucks!
Fitch can beat anyone not name GSP and he has done it....he can beat. Anderson via LnP
 
Originally posted by: MikeyHatTrick
Date: September 27, 2010 at 04:57 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/jon-fitch-vs-anderson-silva.30760/

I think 5 rounds of LNP will be tough,
 
Originally posted by: Gnarcore
Date: September 27, 2010 at 05:01 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/jon-fitch-vs-anderson-silva.30760/

Jak said:
I don't think fitch would even make it to Silva.
Okami, Marquardt, Sonnen, Belfort, Maia, Bisping, Akiyama, Palhares.... etc..
Those are all either big MW's, strong MW's or LHWs that have dropped down.
I remember when Swick fought Okami and between rounds commented on how much stronger Okami was... i could easily see this happening with Jon Fitch.
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Considering take downs through strength is his bread and butter I agree. Plus almost all the guys listed are better strikers.
 
Originally posted by: Jak
Date: September 27, 2010 at 06:12 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/jon-fitch-vs-anderson-silva.30760/

To be honest,
Marquardt vs. Fitch sounds pretty nice. So does Okami vs. Fitch... maybe not barn burners but guys with similar skill sets as Fitch.
I hate that we haven't seen Fitch vs. another top calibre wrestler/grappler.
 
Originally posted by: Galgorian
Date: September 27, 2010 at 06:16 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/jon-fitch-vs-anderson-silva.30760/

Jak said:
To be honest,
Marquardt vs. Fitch sounds pretty nice. So does Okami vs. Fitch... maybe not barn burners but guys with similar skill sets as Fitch.
I hate that we haven't seen Fitch vs. another top calibre wrestler/grappler.
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Yeah besides GSP he hasn't really been tested. I am pretty suprised Fitch is winning the poll right now though, I didn't expect that at all when I created it. Hopefully Fitch does move up regardless, I think it makes for way better match ups than GSP - Fitch 2.
 
Originally posted by: Jak
Date: September 27, 2010 at 06:25 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/jon-fitch-vs-anderson-silva.30760/

Galgorian said:
I am pretty suprised Fitch is winning the poll right now though, I didn't expect that at all when I created it.
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People have a one fight mind.
They don't remember Silva dominating Leben, Franklin, Hendo, Maia, Cote, Marquardt, Griffin, Irvin...
they only remember the Sonnen fight.
then they equate Sonnen with Fitch, because they're both wrestlers.
Fitch has fought guys like Gono, Pierce, Wilson, Saunders, Thiago and a drained and overweight coming back from extended layoff Alves in recent memory... not exactly the top of the WW division. He beat all those guys no doubt, but without facing Koscheck, Kampmann, Hughes, Hardy, and now Shields... it's not as though he's consistently fought what is considered to be the top guys in the WW division. With the exception of Alves, none of Fitch's opponents have really been close to contenders...
Sonnen fought Maia, Okami, Marquardt, Silva, Filho(when he was good)... and a few gimmes like Miller... but basically all top 5 guys at the time... and kept stepping up and doing better.
 
Originally posted by: TheLethalLefty
Date: September 27, 2010 at 07:06 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/jon-fitch-vs-anderson-silva.30760/

Silva has been undefeated and a UFC Middleweight Champion for 4 years. I'll be damned if Jon f---ing Fitch moves up from Welterweight and beats him.
What makes you guys think he can hang up there anyways with all those guys? If he moves up, I would like to see him face at least 3 or 4 credible opponents before a crack a Anderson Silva. Whether he fights, Akiyama, Maia, Bisping, Nate the Great, Jorge Rivera, Palhares, Alessio Sakara, Gerald Harris, Wanderlei Silva, I don't care who else, only if he beats fighters like them will I believe he can take out Anderson Silva.
 
Originally posted by: boy-o
Date: September 27, 2010 at 09:42 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/jon-fitch-vs-anderson-silva.30760/

Fitch gets hit too much,AS would knock him tfo.
 
Originally posted by: Bofauxgalicious
Date: September 28, 2010 at 02:50 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/jon-fitch-vs-anderson-silva.30760/

Fitch via not getting caught in a submission and laying on Anderson for 5 rounds
WAR FITCH
 
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