Jon Jones - Jesus Christ Superstar

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: Bucho
Date: December 12, 2011 at 02:23 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/jon-jones-jesus-christ-superstar.43905/

anotherusername said:
I was rooting for Machida and I hated seeing Jones casually choke him out with his freakishly long and strong arms that no LHW could defend against. However, if the ref tells you to stop, then you have to immediately cease all contact with the other fighter, right? In that case, what else could he have done but let Machida fall to the ground?
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You think he would have been disciplined by the Commission or the UFC for doing it in a more classy way by putting Machida on the mat or letting the ref grab him?
And peeps need to quit acting like a 24 year old with 16 pro fights, including 3 title bouts, lost the ability to think because of adrenaline. Bones was the opposite of hyped and buzzed, he was fully in control of himself physically and mentally, as evidenced by the fact he didn't run away with his arms above his head and leap on top of the cage. This guy is cooooool as hell,
literally
.
But I don't actively dislike him for it, I think his contradictions make him more interesting. Anderson is very similar in that he's usually one of the most quietly spoken, humble and respectful people in the sport but there have been times in the past his actions inside the cage have shown him as arrogant and disrespectful.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: Crusher
Date: December 12, 2011 at 02:37 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/jon-jones-jesus-christ-superstar.43905/

Yes! I see a 15 or 20 Year Reign for Jones!!...Perfect!!

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: roorippin
Date: December 12, 2011 at 02:44 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/jon-jones-jesus-christ-superstar.43905/

Bucho said:
anotherusername said:
I was rooting for Machida and I hated seeing Jones casually choke him out with his freakishly long and strong arms that no LHW could defend against. However, if the ref tells you to stop, then you have to immediately cease all contact with the other fighter, right? In that case, what else could he have done but let Machida fall to the ground?
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You think he would have been disciplined by the Commission or the UFC for doing it in a more classy way by putting Machida on the mat or letting the ref grab him?
And peeps need to quit acting like a 24 year old with 16 pro fights, including 3 title bouts, lost the ability to think because of adrenaline. Bones was the opposite of hyped and buzzed, he was fully in control of himself physically and mentally, as evidenced by the fact he didn't run away with his arms above his head and leap on top of the cage. This guy is cooooool as hell,
literally
.
But I don't actively dislike him for it, I think his contradictions make him more interesting. Anderson is very similar in that he's usually one of the most quietly spoken, humble and respectful people in the sport but there have been times in the past his actions inside the cage have shown him as arrogant and disrespectful.
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That word, literally, you are using it wrong.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: Bucho
Date: December 12, 2011 at 02:52 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/jon-jones-jesus-christ-superstar.43905/

roorippin said:
Bucho said:
anotherusername said:
I was rooting for Machida and I hated seeing Jones casually choke him out with his freakishly long and strong arms that no LHW could defend against. However, if the ref tells you to stop, then you have to immediately cease all contact with the other fighter, right? In that case, what else could he have done but let Machida fall to the ground?
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You think he would have been disciplined by the Commission or the UFC for doing it in a more classy way by putting Machida on the mat or letting the ref grab him?
And peeps need to quit acting like a 24 year old with 16 pro fights, including 3 title bouts, lost the ability to think because of adrenaline. Bones was the opposite of hyped and buzzed, he was fully in control of himself physically and mentally, as evidenced by the fact he didn't run away with his arms above his head and leap on top of the cage. This guy is cooooool as hell,
literally
.
But I don't actively dislike him for it, I think his contradictions make him more interesting. Anderson is very similar in that he's usually one of the most quietly spoken, humble and respectful people in the sport but there have been times in the past his actions inside the cage have shown him as arrogant and disrespectful.
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That word, literally, you are using it wrong.
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Sure, but only figuratively.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: noobMMAfan
Date: December 12, 2011 at 04:42 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/jon-jones-jesus-christ-superstar.43905/

Scuse me while I go vomit. This is jock hanging on an unprecedented level.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: DEMIGODz
Date: December 12, 2011 at 08:19 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/jon-jones-jesus-christ-superstar.43905/

grapplethis said:
clockwerk said:
Yeah, there's a serious man crush going on, but the reality is, Jones is a phenomenal athlete. For the life of me I don't understand what people dislike about him. He's 24 years old, and handling himself remarkably. He definitely has the potential to be the biggest star since Chuck Liddell.
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he's got a definite holier than thou thing going on at times
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I think all of the UFC fans hating on him for the LITTLEST of things are the ones with a "holier than thou" attitude. So, since Jon Jones is a devout Christian he is supposed to act like Jesus-incarnate? I honestly hope Jones just gives up on getting more fans and takes the anti-hero role, just to piss all these whining UFC viewers off as he crushes all their favorite fighters.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: grapplethis
Date: December 13, 2011 at 01:17 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/jon-jones-jesus-christ-superstar.43905/

DEMIGODz said:
grapplethis said:
clockwerk said:
Yeah, there's a serious man crush going on, but the reality is, Jones is a phenomenal athlete. For the life of me I don't understand what people dislike about him. He's 24 years old, and handling himself remarkably. He definitely has the potential to be the biggest star since Chuck Liddell.
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he's got a definite holier than thou thing going on at times
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I think all of the UFC fans hating on him for the LITTLEST of things are the ones with a "holier than thou" attitude. So, since Jon Jones is a devout Christian he is supposed to act like Jesus-incarnate? I honestly hope Jones just gives up on getting more fans and takes the anti-hero role, just to piss all these whining UFC viewers off as he crushes all their favorite fighters.
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people hate on him for the same reasons they do Tebow, to a certain extent. i took a look at jones' twitter the other day after the fight out of curiousity. this one was from before the fight.
"God if its your will than it's already done and I thank you for giving me the victory"
you don't see how that's a little cocky?
come on, jon jones, i doubt god has time to watch your fight, what with having to watch all those denver broncos games.
i mean, jeez.
/joke
i don't think anyone expects him to be jesus incarnate. what most people dislike is his arrogance. at least thats how i perceive it.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: DEMIGODz
Date: December 13, 2011 at 01:31 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/jon-jones-jesus-christ-superstar.43905/

grapplethis said:
people hate on him for the same reasons they do Tebow, to a certain extent. i took a look at jones' twitter the other day after the fight out of curiousity. this one was from before the fight.
"God if its your will than it's already done and I thank you for giving me the victory"
you don't see how that's a little cocky?
come on, jon jones, i doubt god has time to watch your fight, what with having to watch all those denver broncos games.
i mean, jeez.
/joke
i don't think anyone expects him to be jesus incarnate. what most people dislike is his arrogance. at least thats how i perceive it.
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It's funny you bring up Tebow, I'm a fan of him and JBJ...and I'm Agnostic (at best). Perhaps that's why I don't get offended by anything Bones says, because I don't care about his religious bantering and whether it crosses the line into self-idolization.
And even if I did see some of JBJ's actions as cocky, at this point I think he deserves to act a little cocky. I'm almost 24 myself, and if I was a dominant UFC Champion, I'd be grinning about it quite a bit. I just think with all the legitimately negative actions in the sport today (Bisping's illegal blows, Thiago Silva trying to fake a drug test, etc.) that it seems insane to get on Jones' case for what he does.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: grapplethis
Date: December 13, 2011 at 01:38 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/jon-jones-jesus-christ-superstar.43905/

i'm don't hate either of them. actually, i hate tebow because i'm a born and raised oakland raiders fan. i hate him for the same reason i hate dj williams (despite knowing him and playing against him in high school): he's a f---ing bronco. f--- the broncos.
but wouldn't you agree that they both have a similar "i love god and god loves me so i just win at everything because god loves me so much more than my opponents, who he clearly doesn't love that much or else why do they keep losing to me?" vibe?

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: Reckin007
Date: December 13, 2011 at 01:46 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/jon-jones-jesus-christ-superstar.43905/

grapplethis said:
i'm don't hate either of them. actually, i hate tebow because i'm a born and raised oakland raiders fan. i hate him for the same reason i hate dj williams (despite knowing him and playing against him in high school): he's a f**king bronco. f**k the broncos.
but wouldn't you agree that they both have a similar "i love god and god loves me so i just win at everything because god loves me so much more than my opponents, who he clearly doesn't love that much or else why do they keep losing to me?" vibe?
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I hate Tim Tebow for 2 reasons - My team is the Chargers (leave negativity at the door I know they suck this year), and second - he hasn't really played anyone yet and his hype machine is in full effect. Everyone thinks he's the second coming of Joe Montana (exaggeration but really that's what it seems like) but all of their recent games have been against defensive teams with not much offense...the Patriots will bring him down to Earth this weekend just like the Lions did a few weeks back (45-10 demolishing WITH Tebow starting).

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: roorippin
Date: December 13, 2011 at 02:58 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/jon-jones-jesus-christ-superstar.43905/

(45-10 demolishing WITH Tebow starting).
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And has since then rattled off 6 straight wins.....

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: dan0s
Date: December 13, 2011 at 05:58 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/jon-jones-jesus-christ-superstar.43905/

People just don't like Jon Jones. It's his personality and no one denies his talent.
All the love for this guy a little extreme.
I'll always watch him fight because i know it will be a great fight, but unlike a lot of people here i won't be wearing my Jon Jones t shirt and holding my little flag, while watching it alone in a dark room with a box of tissues next to me for good measure.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: Bucho
Date: December 14, 2011 at 01:55 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/jon-jones-jesus-christ-superstar.43905/

This thread should just be called "Jesus Jones".

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: mma_guru333
Date: December 14, 2011 at 02:12 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/jon-jones-jesus-christ-superstar.43905/

Reckin007 said:
grapplethis said:
i'm don't hate either of them. actually, i hate tebow because i'm a born and raised oakland raiders fan. i hate him for the same reason i hate dj williams (despite knowing him and playing against him in high school): he's a f**king bronco. f**k the broncos.
but wouldn't you agree that they both have a similar "i love god and god loves me so i just win at everything because god loves me so much more than my opponents, who he clearly doesn't love that much or else why do they keep losing to me?" vibe?
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I hate Tim Tebow for 2 reasons - My team is the Chargers (leave negativity at the door I know they suck this year), and second - he hasn't really played anyone yet and his hype machine is in full effect. Everyone thinks he's the second coming of Joe Montana (exaggeration but really that's what it seems like) but all of their recent games have been against defensive teams with not much offense...the Patriots will bring him down to Earth this weekend just like the Lions did a few weeks back (45-10 demolishing WITH Tebow starting).
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Oooh, a lot of AFC West rivalry in here (diehard Chiefs fan
), we're still technically the reigning champs, so there!
About Tebow, besides Broncos fans, who in the world is full of praise on this guy? I love how people act like so many people think he's the greatest, but yet it's probably 20-1 on those to think he's good and those who think he's awful.
I love Tebow, (I really wish he'd head over to the NFC or something, but I can't help but love the guy) I always have, and probably always will. With that said, he's an average NFL QB, but the guy does know how to win, and he's an amazing, emotional leader who can really drive/push a team.
Now Tebow talk aside, and on to Jon Jones.
I don't see how the two are similiar at all, except for the fact that they get scrutinized at a microscopic level.
Jon Jones - possibly the greatest talent his sport has ever seen.
Tim Tebow - Sorry, but no. In college he was up there, but he also had a phenomenal team behind him.
Jon Jones - Definitely has a 'holier than thou' aura about him, he also comes off exceedingly arrogant
Tim Tebow - Has he ever said a bad word about anyone in his life? When has he ever sounded arrogant? Or 'holier than thou'?
Sure, they both thank God for different stuff, but they do it in a completely different way.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: grapplethis
Date: December 14, 2011 at 03:02 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/jon-jones-jesus-christ-superstar.43905/

i du
mma_guru333 said:
Reckin007 said:
grapplethis said:
i'm don't hate either of them. actually, i hate tebow because i'm a born and raised oakland raiders fan. i hate him for the same reason i hate dj williams (despite knowing him and playing against him in high school): he's a f**king bronco. f**k the broncos.
but wouldn't you agree that they both have a similar "i love god and god loves me so i just win at everything because god loves me so much more than my opponents, who he clearly doesn't love that much or else why do they keep losing to me?" vibe?
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I hate Tim Tebow for 2 reasons - My team is the Chargers (leave negativity at the door I know they suck this year), and second - he hasn't really played anyone yet and his hype machine is in full effect. Everyone thinks he's the second coming of Joe Montana (exaggeration but really that's what it seems like) but all of their recent games have been against defensive teams with not much offense...the Patriots will bring him down to Earth this weekend just like the Lions did a few weeks back (45-10 demolishing WITH Tebow starting).
Click to expand...
Oooh, a lot of AFC West rivalry in here (diehard Chiefs fan
), we're still technically the reigning champs, so there!
About Tebow, besides Broncos fans, who in the world is full of praise on this guy? I love how people act like so many people think he's the greatest, but yet it's probably 20-1 on those to think he's good and those who think he's awful.
I love Tebow, (I really wish he'd head over to the NFC or something, but I can't help but love the guy) I always have, and probably always will. With that said, he's an average NFL QB, but the guy does know how to win, and he's an amazing, emotional leader who can really drive/push a team.
Now Tebow talk aside, and on to Jon Jones.
I don't see how the two are similiar at all, except for the fact that they get scrutinized at a microscopic level.
Jon Jones - possibly the greatest talent his sport has ever seen.
Tim Tebow - Sorry, but no. In college he was up there, but he also had a phenomenal team behind him.
Jon Jones - Definitely has a 'holier than thou' aura about him, he also comes off exceedingly arrogant
Tim Tebow - Has he ever said a bad word about anyone in his life? When has he ever sounded arrogant? Or 'holier than thou'?
Sure, they both thank God for different stuff, but they do it in a completely different way.
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i don't know man, check out jon jones' twitter. pretty heavy on the religion.
as for tebow's arrogance: calling it god's will and "it was god's love" that won the game kind of implicitly states that god loves you more than the other guy (or the other team). i'd call that arrogant.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: mma_guru333
Date: December 14, 2011 at 04:39 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/jon-jones-jesus-christ-superstar.43905/

grapplethis said:
i du
mma_guru333 said:
Reckin007 said:
I hate Tim Tebow for 2 reasons - My team is the Chargers (leave negativity at the door I know they suck this year), and second - he hasn't really played anyone yet and his hype machine is in full effect. Everyone thinks he's the second coming of Joe Montana (exaggeration but really that's what it seems like) but all of their recent games have been against defensive teams with not much offense...the Patriots will bring him down to Earth this weekend just like the Lions did a few weeks back (45-10 demolishing WITH Tebow starting).
Click to expand...
Oooh, a lot of AFC West rivalry in here (diehard Chiefs fan
), we're still technically the reigning champs, so there!
About Tebow, besides Broncos fans, who in the world is full of praise on this guy? I love how people act like so many people think he's the greatest, but yet it's probably 20-1 on those to think he's good and those who think he's awful.
I love Tebow, (I really wish he'd head over to the NFC or something, but I can't help but love the guy) I always have, and probably always will. With that said, he's an average NFL QB, but the guy does know how to win, and he's an amazing, emotional leader who can really drive/push a team.
Now Tebow talk aside, and on to Jon Jones.
I don't see how the two are similiar at all, except for the fact that they get scrutinized at a microscopic level.
Jon Jones - possibly the greatest talent his sport has ever seen.
Tim Tebow - Sorry, but no. In college he was up there, but he also had a phenomenal team behind him.
Jon Jones - Definitely has a 'holier than thou' aura about him, he also comes off exceedingly arrogant
Tim Tebow - Has he ever said a bad word about anyone in his life? When has he ever sounded arrogant? Or 'holier than thou'?
Sure, they both thank God for different stuff, but they do it in a completely different way.
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i don't know man, check out jon jones' twitter. pretty heavy on the religion.
as for tebow's arrogance: calling it god's will and "it was god's love" that won the game kind of implicitly states that god loves you more than the other guy (or the other team). i'd call that arrogant.
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I didn't want to imply that I didn't think Jones' twitter was heavy on religion, but I'm saying besides the fact that they thank God, I don't see any similarities.
Tebow acknowledging the fact that it was God's will doesn't seem arrogant to me. He's a believer, and most believers believe (redundant much?) that God has a plan set for them (hence God's will). So all he does after games is thank God for said plan, and giving him the ability to live up to it or however you want to word it.
I know most non-believers tend to think that's dumb, and who am I to argue, but to me, what he says seems more humble than arrogant.
It has nothing to do with "who God loves more", that's just silly.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: clockwerk
Date: December 14, 2011 at 11:34 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/jon-jones-jesus-christ-superstar.43905/

mma_guru333 said:
grapplethis said:
i du
mma_guru333 said:
Oooh, a lot of AFC West rivalry in here (diehard Chiefs fan
), we're still technically the reigning champs, so there!
About Tebow, besides Broncos fans, who in the world is full of praise on this guy? I love how people act like so many people think he's the greatest, but yet it's probably 20-1 on those to think he's good and those who think he's awful.
I love Tebow, (I really wish he'd head over to the NFC or something, but I can't help but love the guy) I always have, and probably always will. With that said, he's an average NFL QB, but the guy does know how to win, and he's an amazing, emotional leader who can really drive/push a team.
Now Tebow talk aside, and on to Jon Jones.
I don't see how the two are similiar at all, except for the fact that they get scrutinized at a microscopic level.
Jon Jones - possibly the greatest talent his sport has ever seen.
Tim Tebow - Sorry, but no. In college he was up there, but he also had a phenomenal team behind him.
Jon Jones - Definitely has a 'holier than thou' aura about him, he also comes off exceedingly arrogant
Tim Tebow - Has he ever said a bad word about anyone in his life? When has he ever sounded arrogant? Or 'holier than thou'?
Sure, they both thank God for different stuff, but they do it in a completely different way.
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i don't know man, check out jon jones' twitter. pretty heavy on the religion.
as for tebow's arrogance: calling it god's will and "it was god's love" that won the game kind of implicitly states that god loves you more than the other guy (or the other team). i'd call that arrogant.
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I didn't want to imply that I didn't think Jones' twitter was heavy on religion, but I'm saying besides the fact that they thank God, I don't see any similarities.
Tebow acknowledging the fact that it was God's will doesn't seem arrogant to me. He's a believer, and most believers believe (redundant much?) that God has a plan set for them (hence God's will). So all he does after games is thank God for said plan, and giving him the ability to live up to it or however you want to word it.
I know most non-believers tend to think that's dumb, and who am I to argue, but to me, what he says seems more humble than arrogant.
It has nothing to do with "who God loves more", that's just silly.
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It sure does seem painfully arrogant and frankly ignorant to me. First, it's directly in contravention of scripture. God only directly helps those who pursue to perform great deeds in his name. For the rest of us, it our duty to live in his image as much as possible to earn our place in the afterlife. That's how it works.
So there's a difference between saying "Thank you Jesus for the gifts you have bestowed upon me that have allowed me to achieve this" and "God chose me to win and made it happen". It's ridiculous. God doesn't give a s--- about the outcome of a football game. To claim that god's will was being done by allowing you to win suggests you have some special relationship with him that other clearly do not (or why wouldn't he have willed THEM to win?) or maybe, he just wasn't involved at all, as scripture would dictate.
So yeah, it's arrogant, and also ignorant of his own religion, which isn't surprising.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: mma_guru333
Date: December 15, 2011 at 06:41 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/jon-jones-jesus-christ-superstar.43905/

clockwerk said:
It sure does seem painfully arrogant and frankly ignorant to me. First, it's directly in contravention of scripture. God only directly helps those who pursue to perform great deeds in his name. For the rest of us, it our duty to live in his image as much as possible to earn our place in the afterlife. That's how it works.
So there's a difference between saying "Thank you Jesus for the gifts you have bestowed upon me that have allowed me to achieve this" and "God chose me to win and made it happen". It's ridiculous. God doesn't give a s**t about the outcome of a football game. To claim that god's will was being done by allowing you to win suggests you have some special relationship with him that other clearly do not (or why wouldn't he have willed THEM to win?) or maybe, he just wasn't involved at all, as scripture would dictate.
So yeah, it's arrogant, and also ignorant of his own religion, which isn't surprising.
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Can you or grapple find me an interview where he says God willed him to win and not "Thank you Jesus for the gifts you have bestowed upon me that have allowed me to achieve this"?
I hear you guys talking about arrogance, but I really don't see it, so I'd like to hear these so I understand where you're coming from.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: grapplethis
Date: December 15, 2011 at 08:34 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/jon-jones-jesus-christ-superstar.43905/

mma_guru333 said:
clockwerk said:
It sure does seem painfully arrogant and frankly ignorant to me. First, it's directly in contravention of scripture. God only directly helps those who pursue to perform great deeds in his name. For the rest of us, it our duty to live in his image as much as possible to earn our place in the afterlife. That's how it works.
So there's a difference between saying "Thank you Jesus for the gifts you have bestowed upon me that have allowed me to achieve this" and "God chose me to win and made it happen". It's ridiculous. God doesn't give a s**t about the outcome of a football game. To claim that god's will was being done by allowing you to win suggests you have some special relationship with him that other clearly do not (or why wouldn't he have willed THEM to win?) or maybe, he just wasn't involved at all, as scripture would dictate.
So yeah, it's arrogant, and also ignorant of his own religion, which isn't surprising.
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Can you or grapple find me an interview where he says God willed him to win and not "Thank you Jesus for the gifts you have bestowed upon me that have allowed me to achieve this"?
I hear you guys talking about arrogance, but I really don't see it, so I'd like to hear these so I understand where you're coming from.
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i already gave you that extra cocky twitter post. "if it's your will god, it's already done and i thank you for the victory."

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: grapplethis
Date: December 15, 2011 at 08:36 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/jon-jones-jesus-christ-superstar.43905/

before the rua fight he said "I'll be bringing God with me into the cage."