Jose Aldo vs Nate Diaz

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Originally posted by: ChrisminaL
Date: November 13, 2016 at 10:08 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/jose-aldo-vs-nate-diaz.70188/
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True sport fans will hate me for this, but...
UFC, being the business that they are, should set up Jose Aldo vs Nate Diaz in the Lightweight division while Conor McGregor is taking some time off.
Now, hear me out:
It is crystal clear that the UFC are looking for money fights, right ? Of course, while Conor is out, Tony "El Cucuy" Ferguson vs Khabib "the Eagle" Nurmagomedov is the fight to make to decide the rightful #1 contender in the division. But, they rightfully look for the fights that would make money.
A rematch between Aldo and Conor or a third fight between Nate and Conor would be the money maker. It would sell way more than Khabib or Ferguson.
Also, Khabib vs Ferguson is a fight the fans want to see. Jose vs Nate is something that would make enourmeous numbers and it would set up the biggest fight in UFC history (in terms of number, imo) if Nate wins. Nate vs Conor III for the LW title would definitely be the biggest fight UFC can make at the moment, Business-wise of course.
This would stack the contenders both in FW and LW, but dammmn, that would make those divisions so interesting at the same time.
Thoughts ?
 
Originally posted by: MysterLynch
Date: November 13, 2016 at 10:09 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/jose-aldo-vs-nate-diaz.70188/
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ChrisminaL said:
True sport fans will hate me for this, but...
UFC, being the business that they are, should set up Jose Aldo vs Nate Diaz in the Lightweight division while Conor McGregor is taking some time off.
Now, hear me out:
It is crystal clear that the UFC are looking for money fights, right ? Of course, while Conor is out, Tony "El Cucuy" Ferguson vs Khabib "the Eagle" Nurmagomedov is the fight to make to decide the rightful #1 contender in the division. But, they rightfully look for the fights that would make money.
A rematch between Aldo and Conor or a third fight between Nate and Conor would be the money maker. It would sell way more than Khabib or Ferguson.
Also, Khabib vs Ferguson is a fight the fans want to see. Jose vs Nate is something that would make enourmeous numbers and it would set up the biggest fight in UFC history (in terms of number, imo) if Nate wins. Nate vs Conor III for the LW title would definitely be the biggest fight UFC can make at the moment, Business-wise of course.
This would stack the contenders both in FW and LW, but dammmn, that would make those divisions so interesting at the same time.
Thoughts ?
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So not only should two belts not be defended, but the interim FW belt should not be defended so the champ can move up for a pointless fight?
Both Aldo and Khabib would go batspit crazy, and likely several other fighters. If Conor means what he says, he won't fight unless they give him ownership in the UFC. I honestly don't think they can afford to give in to Conor as A) It would set a dangerous president, B) Would drive a lot of fighters nuts and C) Tells Conor he can ask for even more down the line.
 
Originally posted by: MMAFTM13
Date: November 13, 2016 at 10:15 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/jose-aldo-vs-nate-diaz.70188/
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I think they have to make Khabib v Ferguson cuz there's no clear number one contender. You thought Ferguson after his great win over RDA and now after Khabibs destruction, still no number one. They both need to duke it out for the title shot, while Conor takes a slight break. I would like to see Conor v Nate III and it would make great business sense, but not on a loss for Nate. He needs a win at the very least.
It's a hard one on Aldo cuz 13 seconds 2 fights ago. I would personally would like to see Conor rematch him though, while Khabib and Ferguson settle the score. Summer Conor fights the winner of that fight, but not sure if he's still allowed to keep both belts yet?
 
Originally posted by: ChrisminaL
Date: November 13, 2016 at 10:16 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/jose-aldo-vs-nate-diaz.70188/
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I did not say it made sense for the sport.
If you want to make sense, knowing that Conor will take some time off, just throw Ferguson vs Khabib to figure out Conor's next opponent, and have Aldo vs Holloway for the FW belt (scrap Conor because he won't defend it for a too long time if he defends at lw first).
BUT. UFC is a business. They have always been. And they think more and more as a business now.
Conor vs Nate III would make a lot of athletes angry. Crybabies will do their thing. But man. $. So many $.
 
Originally posted by: Spidy
Date: November 13, 2016 at 10:18 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/jose-aldo-vs-nate-diaz.70188/
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ChrisminaL said:
True sport fans will hate me for this, but...
UFC, being the business that they are, should set up Jose Aldo vs Nate Diaz in the Lightweight division while Conor McGregor is taking some time off.
Now, hear me out:
It is crystal clear that the UFC are looking for money fights, right ? Of course, while Conor is out, Tony "El Cucuy" Ferguson vs Khabib "the Eagle" Nurmagomedov is the fight to make to decide the rightful #1 contender in the division. But, they rightfully look for the fights that would make money.
A rematch between Aldo and Conor or a third fight between Nate and Conor would be the money maker. It would sell way more than Khabib or Ferguson.
Also, Khabib vs Ferguson is a fight the fans want to see. Jose vs Nate is something that would make enourmeous numbers and it would set up the biggest fight in UFC history (in terms of number, imo) if Nate wins. Nate vs Conor III for the LW title would definitely be the biggest fight UFC can make at the moment, Business-wise of course.
This would stack the contenders both in FW and LW, but dammmn, that would make those divisions so interesting at the same time.
Thoughts ?
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That would be fine and dandy, especially since Khabib and el cucuy is a fight long overdue and Jose has recently talked
A bit o the s--- concerning Nate, yet I highly suspect Aldo to stay put in the FW division. Not a bad scenario were it to play out
 
Originally posted by: THE FIRST
Date: November 13, 2016 at 10:22 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/jose-aldo-vs-nate-diaz.70188/
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Why not just skip the whole belts concept?
Let the fighters wear colorful suits and fight random guys no weights etc. Freak show ala Pride style.
 
Originally posted by: SwiftLee
Date: November 13, 2016 at 10:22 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/jose-aldo-vs-nate-diaz.70188/
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Jose is the better fighter, but Nate is way way too big for him.
 
Originally posted by: SwiftLee
Date: November 13, 2016 at 10:23 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/jose-aldo-vs-nate-diaz.70188/
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THE FIRST said:
Why not just skip the whole belts concept?
Let the fighters wear colorful suits and fight random guys no weights etc. Freak show ala Pride style.
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Ultimate Fighting Circus
 
Originally posted by: Mathias
Date: November 13, 2016 at 10:23 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/jose-aldo-vs-nate-diaz.70188/
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For me the real money fights are woodley or even GSP. That won't happen for now though i suppose. You never know though.. both fights would again break all the records.
Either way i have not a lot of interest in the rematch against aldo and no interest at all in nate vs conor III.
He has to give up the FW belt now.. since the only fight down there is Aldo.. and i don't think he wants to fight at FW or Aldo anymore.
You are right.. neither the Khabib nor the Tony fight will propably break records.. but apart from Diaz thats the only fight i can see him taking @ LW. That should also be the only fights he should be allowed to take there by the UFC.
 
Originally posted by: MMAFTM13
Date: November 13, 2016 at 10:24 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/jose-aldo-vs-nate-diaz.70188/
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I am interested to see just how good 2016s Nate Diaz is, if he's having performances like that against Michael Johnson and Conor Magregor, especially when Conor's making things look so easy with everyone else.
UFC need to get Nate Diaz a fight, soon.
 
Originally posted by: Spud
Date: November 13, 2016 at 10:44 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/jose-aldo-vs-nate-diaz.70188/
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SwiftLee said:
Jose is the better fighter, but Nate is way way too big for him.
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There you have it folks, put all your money on Aldo.
Seriously though, one of the best kickers the sport has ever seen vs Nate Diaz.
 
Originally posted by: SwiftLee
Date: November 13, 2016 at 10:47 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/jose-aldo-vs-nate-diaz.70188/
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Spud said:
There you have it folks, put all your money on Aldo.
Seriously though, one of the best kickers the sport has ever seen vs Nate Diaz.
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lol <3 Yes we cant ignore his leg kicks. But look at the reach difference. Aldo couldnt even deal with McGregors reach. Nate will hit Conor from the other end of the Octagon
 
Originally posted by: SwiftLee
Date: November 13, 2016 at 10:48 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/jose-aldo-vs-nate-diaz.70188/
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Mathias said:
For me the real money fights are woodley or even GSP. That won't happen for now though i suppose. You never know though.. both fights would again break all the records.
Either way i have not a lot of interest in the rematch against aldo and no interest at all in nate vs conor III.
He has to give up the FW belt now.. since the only fight down there is Aldo.. and i don't think he wants to fight at FW or Aldo anymore.
You are right.. neither the Khabib nor the Tony fight will propably break records.. but apart from Diaz thats the only fight i can see him taking @ LW. That should also be the only fights he should be allowed to take there by the UFC.
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Are people really considering the possibility that Conor will for the WW title? you guys know that he's only trolling right? lol Conor isn't dumb. He's not going to walk into a fight to be killed
 
Originally posted by: CardioKing
Date: November 13, 2016 at 10:50 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/jose-aldo-vs-nate-diaz.70188/
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MysterLynch said:
So not only should two belts not be defended, but the interim FW belt should not be defended so the champ can move up for a pointless fight?
Both Aldo and Khabib would go batspit crazy, and likely several other fighters. If Conor means what he says, he won't fight unless they give him ownership in the UFC. I honestly don't think they can afford to give in to Conor as A) It would set a dangerous president, B) Would drive a lot of fighters nuts and C) Tells Conor he can ask for even more down the line.
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Just so we're clear - they're going to "give him" s---.
This is what happens when you're a
former welfare recipien
t. You don't really understand business.
He can buy his way in. And he can buy his way without any fanfare if (1) a majority owner will sell him a small percentage (2) a minority owner wants to sell off to make a profit.
But the idea that someone is going to "give" him something for free that (a) has a monetary value (b) that others have paid for is silly.
WHAT'S ACTUALLY HAPPENING: They've already spoken to him and worked out a deal to sell a minority share. Chances are he can only afford 1% or less and they won't want him to sell him more than that anyway, because he's decisive.
 
Originally posted by: Spud
Date: November 13, 2016 at 10:56 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/jose-aldo-vs-nate-diaz.70188/
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SwiftLee said:
lol <3 Yes we cant ignore his leg kicks. But look at the reach difference. Aldo couldnt even deal with McGregors reach. Nate will hit Conor from the other end of the Octagon
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Aldo doesn't need to be in close range to hit Diaz with kicks. And he's not exactly a bad boxer himself. Yes, he'd be at a size disadvantage but the strongest aspect of his game directly matches up with the weakest aspect of Nates.
SwiftLee said:
Are people really considering the possibility that Conor will for the WW title? you guys know that he's only trolling right? lol Conor isn't dumb. He's not going to walk into a fight to be killed
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When Conor was scheduled to fight RDA, the plan was him vs Lawler at UFC 200 if he won. Lawler had already been asked to take the fight. And again you don't seem to understand the mentality fighters like Conor have. He's not going to go into a fight with Woodley, or Khabib, or Ferguson, or anyone from 145lbs-170lbs thinking he's going to be beaten.
 
Originally posted by: SwiftLee
Date: November 13, 2016 at 10:57 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/jose-aldo-vs-nate-diaz.70188/
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CardioKing said:
Just so we're clear - they're going to "give him" s---.
This is what happens when you're a
former welfare recipien
t. You don't really understand business.
He can buy his way in. And he can buy his way without any fanfare if (1) a majority owner will sell him a small percentage (2) a minority owner wants to sell off to make a profit.
But the idea that someone is going to "give" him something for free that (a) has a monetary value (b) that others have paid for is silly.
WHAT'S ACTUALLY HAPPENING: They've already spoken to him and worked out a deal to sell a minority share. Chances are he can only afford 1% or less and they won't want him to sell him more than that anyway, because he's decisive.
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Exactly what i was thinking. No one's stopping him from buying shares of UFC.
 
Originally posted by: SwiftLee
Date: November 13, 2016 at 11:00 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/jose-aldo-vs-nate-diaz.70188/
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Spud said:
Aldo doesn't need to be in close range to hit Diaz with kicks. And he's not exactly a bad boxer himself. Yes, he'd be at a size disadvantage but the strongest aspect of his game directly matches up with the weakest aspect of Nates.
When Conor was scheduled to fight RDA, the plan was him vs Lawler at UFC 200 if he won. Lawler had already been asked to take the fight. And again you don't seem to understand the mentality fighters like Conor have. He's not going to go into a fight with Woodley, or Khabib, or Ferguson, or anyone from 145lbs-170lbs thinking he's going to be beaten.
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You're severly underrating Nate at 155. MJ tried taking the leg kick route with him and failed. Aldo won't win either.
I didn't know that you believed in horseshit like the law of attraction like Conor does. lol No amount of belief is going to save Conor when he gets hit by a true WW. Stop kidding yourself. Woodley could possibly cause the first death in Octagon if this fight gets sanctioned.
 
Originally posted by: Spud
Date: November 13, 2016 at 11:06 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/jose-aldo-vs-nate-diaz.70188/
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SwiftLee said:
You're severly underrating Nate at 155. MJ tried taking the leg kick route with him and failed. Aldo won't win either.
I didn't know that you believed in horseshit like the law of attraction like Conor does. lol No amount of belief is going to save Conor when he gets hit by a true WW. Stop kidding yourself. Woodley could possibly cause the first death in Octagon if this fight gets sanctioned.
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Aldos striking >>>>>>> Johnsons Striking. Particularly when it comes to kicking, defence, patience, gameplanning, in fact pretty much every aspect of striking.
Did I say I think Conor would beat Woodley? Nope. I just pointed out that you think he's not serious about WW fights, whereas it's quite clear he's very serious in his belief that he can beat those guys. And no need for the over dramatic "OMG this could be the first death" s---, even for you that's ridiculous.
 
Originally posted by: 2_1up2_4down
Date: November 13, 2016 at 04:44 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/jose-aldo-vs-nate-diaz.70188/
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No, get the champ to actually defend one of the titles.
 
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