Judges for saw Jardine winning the fight against Rampage

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: ACOGSCOPE
Date: March 10, 2009 at 05:05 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/judges-for-saw-jardine-winning-the-fight-against-rampage.11398/

Until the last 10 seconds. Does anyone agree with this? 2 judges have came out and said as much.
While I think Jardine was definitely more agressive. He was knocked down 2 times if I remember correctly. Forrest seem to upset Rampage with the same type of performance. What is everyone's thoughts on this. Sorry if someone posted this earlier, but I went back 2 pages and everything seemed very old.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: josh3588
Date: March 10, 2009 at 05:09 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/judges-for-saw-jardine-winning-the-fight-against-rampage.11398/

I think it was a split decision for Rampage up until that last knock down in the 3rd. That made it unanimous, but Jardine put up a really good fight. If I were the judges I would have had a split decision for Rampage until the last 10 sec. Jardine didn't do enough to be winning that fight on 2 judges cards they must be crazy. I could almost see an argument for a draw up until that point, but not even cuz Jardine had already been knocked down once at that point. I thought the judge who scored the fight 30-27 was out of his mind. It should have been 29-28 across the board.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: phoenix-mma
Date: March 10, 2009 at 05:09 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/judges-for-saw-jardine-winning-the-fight-against-rampage.11398/

No, Rampage dropped him in the 2nd. Rampage took him down at 3:45 of round 3...then with just over a minute left he rocked him with a few shots and Jardine stumbled back against the cage. And then finally dropped him again with 6 seconds left.....Any Judge saying that Jardine was up on their score cards will also tell you that they rode to the arena on a unicorn

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: ACOGSCOPE
Date: March 10, 2009 at 05:11 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/judges-for-saw-jardine-winning-the-fight-against-rampage.11398/

Yeah I think the knockdowns is what caused Jardine to lose the fight. Jardine definitely threw more kicks and wild punches, but it was only to keep Rampage uncomfortable and not to get into a rythm.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: 00ireland99
Date: March 10, 2009 at 05:13 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/judges-for-saw-jardine-winning-the-fight-against-rampage.11398/

Without the knockdowns it would have been very close, but the Knockdowns were the deciding factor

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: MCM
Date: March 10, 2009 at 05:29 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/judges-for-saw-jardine-winning-the-fight-against-rampage.11398/

I was pulling for Jardine in this fight and had him as my #9 by Dec in the JFC, but even I had Rampage slightly ahead in the 3rd before the last knock down. Without those last 10 sec. I could maybe see an argument for a draw but I can't see how anyone had him winning the fight up to that point.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: ShadyCambo
Date: March 10, 2009 at 05:37 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/judges-for-saw-jardine-winning-the-fight-against-rampage.11398/

Jardine says at least one of the judges told him this was the case. Which brings up a much bigger issue, and that is why are judges allowed to socialize with competitors? All major sports build in a buffer zone between officials and competitors(this includes coaches, GMs, and other team personnel). Allowing discussions like this is take place is going to lead to huge problems. Having judges explain their scores to the media would be stupid, having them explain their scores to fighters is majorly retarded and asking for troubple.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: diemos
Date: March 10, 2009 at 05:45 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/judges-for-saw-jardine-winning-the-fight-against-rampage.11398/

Thats ridiculous, even before the knockdown in third, i saw rampage was winning.
One judge even gave 30-27, how could have he been winning?

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: phoenix-mma
Date: March 10, 2009 at 05:48 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/judges-for-saw-jardine-winning-the-fight-against-rampage.11398/

x1java99 said:
Without the knockdowns it would have been very close, but the Knockdowns were the deciding factor
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i agree...you back out the knockdowns in the 2nd and 3rd rounds and its a draw...possibly edge to Jardine

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: illy-d
Date: March 10, 2009 at 05:56 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/judges-for-saw-jardine-winning-the-fight-against-rampage.11398/

ShadyCambo said:
Jardine says at least one of the judges told him this was the case. Which brings up a much bigger issue, and that is why are judges allowed to socialize with competitors? All major sports build in a buffer zone between officials and competitors(this includes coaches, GMs, and other team personnel). Allowing discussions like this is take place is going to lead to huge problems. Having judges explain their scores to the media would be stupid, having them explain their scores to fighters is majorly retarded and asking for troubple.
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I agree - totally agree... It's one thing for an official to be cordial or friendly with a fighter or player, but in a judged sport there should be seperation between judge and competitor. Otherwise it just becomes a popularity contest.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: Ace23
Date: March 10, 2009 at 06:24 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/judges-for-saw-jardine-winning-the-fight-against-rampage.11398/

Rampage won that fight 30-27 clear as day to me.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: Cavediver
Date: March 10, 2009 at 06:48 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/judges-for-saw-jardine-winning-the-fight-against-rampage.11398/

AceTruth23 said:
Rampage won that fight 30-27 clear as day to me.
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I concur.......Neither looked great.But Rampage held the center of the cage and dinged Jardine right and left.Yes KJ caught him with some leg kicks and a few punches.But clearly Quinton won. Being a fan of QJ,if he shows up to fight Evans like he did KJ he's going home with a fat goose egg and a headache.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: RearNakedSlam
Date: March 10, 2009 at 07:17 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/judges-for-saw-jardine-winning-the-fight-against-rampage.11398/

This is exactly the please everyone type of statement I would expect an official to say.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: Sedulous
Date: March 10, 2009 at 07:59 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/judges-for-saw-jardine-winning-the-fight-against-rampage.11398/

Cavediver said:
AceTruth23 said:
Rampage won that fight 30-27 clear as day to me.
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I concur.......Neither looked great.But Rampage held the center of the cage and dinged Jardine right and left.Yes KJ caught him with some leg kicks and a few punches.But clearly Quinton won. Being a fan of QJ,if he shows up to fight Evans like he did KJ he's going home with a fat goose egg and a headache.
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Co-sign with you guys. maybe Jardine had the first round but he was tooled in the 2nd and 3rd....with out that knock down.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: Gnarcore
Date: March 10, 2009 at 08:29 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/judges-for-saw-jardine-winning-the-fight-against-rampage.11398/

I agree with the two judges that Jardine was winning until the last 10 seconds when Jackson got the knockdown. RD1 Jardine - RD2 - Jackson and RD3 was razor thin until the knockdown. The take down in that round by Jackson doesn't count for squat because Jardine was up right away with Jackson even attempting GnP.
Overall I was completely unimpressed with Rampage and expect him to lose to Rashad or Machida. Rashad during his commentary was doing a great job of calling what Rampage was doing by his tells. If Rashad can read Rampage that well he should be able to counter him no problem. As for Machida, if Jardine could be somewhat elusive against Rampage then Machida will have no issue picking Jackson apart if he comes forward like he did against Jardine.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: MJ
Date: March 10, 2009 at 08:36 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/judges-for-saw-jardine-winning-the-fight-against-rampage.11398/

i didnt miss any part of this fight. Jardine did a great job but Jackson def won this fight. I bet Jardine landed more shots on Rampage between punches and leg kicks. Those knock downs by Quinton played a huge part in his win but overall i thought he controlled most of the fight. There was one point were Jardine had him up against the cage and rocked him.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: mmafanatic
Date: March 10, 2009 at 09:59 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/judges-for-saw-jardine-winning-the-fight-against-rampage.11398/

Rampage CLEARLY won the fight.
Round 1 goes to Jardine.
After that it was ALL Rampage. He got a takedown and a knockdown in round 2, the only time Jardine had rampage in any trouble was after the low blow when Rampage didn't use the time he's given to recuperate. At that point, Jardine landed some good shots, but Rampage threw back and Jardine was running for the hills quickly. Rampage wins round 2 easily. So it's 1-1.
Round 3, neither guy doing much. Rampage gets a takedown, but does nothing with it. Jardine goes for takedown, but doesn't get it. Rampage is chasing Jardine around the cage the last minute of the round (not 10 seconds), and Jardine is basically running away from him. As the round comes to a close, Jardine misses a kick, and Rampage drops him. Last round is CLEARLY Rampages, even before knockdown.
Final score 29-28 for Rampage. And for the idiots who say if you take away the knockdowns Jardine wins, if you take away Jardine's kicks, it's an asskicking. You don't take away anything. It's a fight, and Rampage was the better fighter.
Done and done!

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: Sedulous
Date: March 11, 2009 at 10:21 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/judges-for-saw-jardine-winning-the-fight-against-rampage.11398/

mmafanatic said:
Rampage CLEARLY won the fight.
Round 1 goes to Jardine.
After that it was ALL Rampage. He got a takedown and a knockdown in round 2, the only time Jardine had rampage in any trouble was after the low blow when Rampage didn't use the time he's given to recuperate. At that point, Jardine landed some good shots, but Rampage threw back and Jardine was running for the hills quickly. Rampage wins round 2 easily. So it's 1-1.
Round 3, neither guy doing much. Rampage gets a takedown, but does nothing with it. Jardine goes for takedown, but doesn't get it. Rampage is chasing Jardine around the cage the last minute of the round (not 10 seconds), and Jardine is basically running away from him. As the round comes to a close, Jardine misses a kick, and Rampage drops him. Last round is CLEARLY Rampages, even before knockdown.
Final score 29-28 for Rampage. And for the idiots who say if you take away the knockdowns Jardine wins, if you take away Jardine's kicks, it's an asskicking. You don't take away anything. It's a fight, and Rampage was the better fighter.
Done and done!
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Agreed.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: itadakimasu
Date: March 11, 2009 at 10:33 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/judges-for-saw-jardine-winning-the-fight-against-rampage.11398/

Rampage did clearly win the fight, in that he dropped jardine a couple of times, and again right before the end of the fight... The last round is very important. If they're behind, they need to do something to stand out as the better fighter.
It wasn't the most exciting fight... you got 2 tough fighters in there. it really could have gone either way though. Jardine is no slouch, but rampage got the better of him. Especially when jardine hit him w\ the low blow... rampage didn't break because he knew it was a sign that jardine was tired LOL ( if you haven't watched the post fight press conference, you should do so )

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: PayaamElixir
Date: March 11, 2009 at 10:43 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/judges-for-saw-jardine-winning-the-fight-against-rampage.11398/

I had Rampage clearly winnning BEFORE the knockdown at the finish of the fight.