Originally posted by: JonnyRico Date: March 03, 2014 at 09:45 PM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/junior-dos-santos-vs-stipe-miocic-co-main-event-for-ufc-173.61262/
Originally posted by: Budders Date: March 03, 2014 at 09:46 PM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/junior-dos-santos-vs-stipe-miocic-co-main-event-for-ufc-173.61262/
Originally posted by: JonnyRico Date: March 03, 2014 at 09:46 PM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/junior-dos-santos-vs-stipe-miocic-co-main-event-for-ufc-173.61262/
Originally posted by: imhungry4444 Date: March 03, 2014 at 09:48 PM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/junior-dos-santos-vs-stipe-miocic-co-main-event-for-ufc-173.61262/
Originally posted by: holmezy Date: March 03, 2014 at 09:52 PM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/junior-dos-santos-vs-stipe-miocic-co-main-event-for-ufc-173.61262/
Originally posted by: KEITHNASH Date: March 03, 2014 at 09:53 PM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/junior-dos-santos-vs-stipe-miocic-co-main-event-for-ufc-173.61262/
Originally posted by: phoenix-mma Date: March 03, 2014 at 09:55 PM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/junior-dos-santos-vs-stipe-miocic-co-main-event-for-ufc-173.61262/
Originally posted by: thedoop Date: March 03, 2014 at 10:00 PM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/junior-dos-santos-vs-stipe-miocic-co-main-event-for-ufc-173.61262/
Originally posted by: Budders Date: March 03, 2014 at 10:49 PM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/junior-dos-santos-vs-stipe-miocic-co-main-event-for-ufc-173.61262/
Card is starting to fill up, Mizugaki vs Dillishaw, Weidman vs Machida and this but the main card needs another solid fight it feels. Maybe Benson vs Khabilov, Jung vs Lamas? Last couple memorial day cards have been heavyweight showcases so maybe something like Struve vs Gonzaga or Schaub vs Hunt? Lots of guys are booked right now be interesting to see if they can find another good main card fight.
Originally posted by: Reckin007 Date: March 03, 2014 at 10:55 PM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/junior-dos-santos-vs-stipe-miocic-co-main-event-for-ufc-173.61262/
I really don't see where Stipe can win this one. He's not necessarily fast or athletic for a heavyweight, his hands aren't that fast/heavy. I'd confidently pick Junior here.
Originally posted by: BRF Date: March 03, 2014 at 10:59 PM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/junior-dos-santos-vs-stipe-miocic-co-main-event-for-ufc-173.61262/
Originally posted by: KZUFCchamp2013 Date: March 03, 2014 at 11:09 PM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/junior-dos-santos-vs-stipe-miocic-co-main-event-for-ufc-173.61262/
Originally posted by: FlipMMA Date: March 03, 2014 at 11:13 PM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/junior-dos-santos-vs-stipe-miocic-co-main-event-for-ufc-173.61262/
Reckin007 said:
I really don't see where Stipe can win this one. He's not necessarily fast or athletic for a heavyweight, his hands aren't that fast/heavy. I'd confidently pick Junior here.
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Golden Gloves champ, Division I wrestler, and played collegiate baseball. Ya, he's not much of an athlete for a heavyweight.
Originally posted by: Reckin007 Date: March 03, 2014 at 11:19 PM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/junior-dos-santos-vs-stipe-miocic-co-main-event-for-ufc-173.61262/
FlipMMA said:
Golden Gloves champ, Division I wrestler, and played collegiate baseball. Ya, he's not much of an athlete for a heavyweight.
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Thanks Wikipedia. JDS/Cain are 800x faster and more athletic than Stipe.
Originally posted by: JonnyRico Date: March 03, 2014 at 11:23 PM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/junior-dos-santos-vs-stipe-miocic-co-main-event-for-ufc-173.61262/
Reckin007 said:
Thanks Wikipedia. JDS/Cain are 800x faster and more athletic than Stipe.
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You said he wasn't athletic for a heavyweight and he proved otherwise. He's not debating that he's more athletic than JDS or Cain
Originally posted by: Reckin007 Date: March 03, 2014 at 11:28 PM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/junior-dos-santos-vs-stipe-miocic-co-main-event-for-ufc-173.61262/
JonnyRico said:
You said he wasn't athletic for a heavyweight and he proved otherwise. He's not debating that he's more athletic than JDS or Cain
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He's obviously an "athlete" but those credentials don't prove anything. I was bringing up the point that fast/athletic for a heavyweight, to me, are guys like Junior/Cain.
Originally posted by: thedarkwingduck2k11 Date: March 03, 2014 at 11:28 PM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/junior-dos-santos-vs-stipe-miocic-co-main-event-for-ufc-173.61262/
JonnyRico said:
This is bittersweet but also in the end it's a great fight. Just don't think they should put JDS in a spot to take out fresh contenders for Cain
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I tend to agree, but what's really his other option if he's not fighting contenders, fighting second tier fighters? right now he's ranked #2 heavyweight and has to play the role of cain's personal gatekeeper, until he get his chance again at the title.
Originally posted by: Budders Date: March 03, 2014 at 11:32 PM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/junior-dos-santos-vs-stipe-miocic-co-main-event-for-ufc-173.61262/
thedarkwingduck2k11 said:
I tend to agree, but what's really his other option if he's not fighting contenders, fighting second tier fighters? right now he's ranked #2 heavyweight and has to play the role of cain's personal gatekeeper, until he get his chance again at the title.
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Not to mention that the title picture is set until 2015, Werdum vs Browne winner gets Cain sometime at the end of the year, my guess would be the year end show.
Originally posted by: GOODNIGHTIRENE Date: March 04, 2014 at 12:08 AM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/junior-dos-santos-vs-stipe-miocic-co-main-event-for-ufc-173.61262/
Originally posted by: Neonep Date: March 04, 2014 at 12:13 AM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/junior-dos-santos-vs-stipe-miocic-co-main-event-for-ufc-173.61262/
GOODNIGHTIRENE said:
never going to put full confidence in JDS after those 2 cain fights. fighters may never be the same after fights like that
miocic def has more upside
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You remember what happened in his next fight after he lost to Cain the first time right. Never doubt Junior. EVER
Cigano all day. 2 of my favorite fighters in the co-main and main event. This is very serious!