Junkie Fastasy Fighting vs MMA Weekly Fantasy Fighting

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Originally posted by: Ph1sh
Date: February 23, 2010 at 03:48 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/junkie-fastasy-fighting-vs-mma-weekly-fantasy-fighting.22786/

Some say the best fighters are at Weekly....some argue Junkie. Let the numbers do the talking....for UFC 110 there were:
58 fighters at Weekly for an average score of 60.81
102 fighters at Junkie for an average score of 60.84
 
Originally posted by: Seawall
Date: February 23, 2010 at 03:49 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/junkie-fastasy-fighting-vs-mma-weekly-fantasy-fighting.22786/

Ph1sh said:
Some say the best fighters are at Weekly....some argue Junkie. Let the numbers do the talking....for UFC 110 there were:
58 fighters at Weekly for an average score of 60.81
102 fighters at Junkie for an average score of 60.84
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How many of those were at both? They shouldn't count in the averages.
 
Originally posted by: Ph1sh
Date: February 23, 2010 at 03:52 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/junkie-fastasy-fighting-vs-mma-weekly-fantasy-fighting.22786/

Seawall said:
Ph1sh said:
Some say the best fighters are at Weekly....some argue Junkie. Let the numbers do the talking....for UFC 110 there were:
58 fighters at Weekly for an average score of 60.81
102 fighters at Junkie for an average score of 60.84
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How many of those were at both? They shouldn't count in the averages.
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Why shouldn't it? They make up both leagues. This is all scores from each site at UFC 110. If people competed at both, their scores were added at both. Some people like me had a few different picks at one from the other site.
 
Originally posted by: Tai_Mai_Shu
Date: February 23, 2010 at 03:54 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/junkie-fastasy-fighting-vs-mma-weekly-fantasy-fighting.22786/

They went head to head last year and Weekly won by 6 fights I believe.
 
Originally posted by: Castellammarese
Date: February 23, 2010 at 04:00 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/junkie-fastasy-fighting-vs-mma-weekly-fantasy-fighting.22786/

IMO, the best way to test which league has the best fighters would be to do it via average score as the OP did. However, I think the people who compete at both sites should be removed, and the average score of the rest is what really matters. Fish and Rees can say that Weekly is better, yet they both fight at both sites, and as such their scores make up the average score at both sites. I just won a title at Weekly against DanielsanFTW. My next opponent will be GuidaClayAllDay. You can't say one site is better than the other when the majority of the best fighters from each site, fight at each site
 
Originally posted by: Ph1sh
Date: February 23, 2010 at 04:02 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/junkie-fastasy-fighting-vs-mma-weekly-fantasy-fighting.22786/

Castellammarese said:
IMO, the best way to test which league has the best fighters would be to do it via average score as the OP did. However, I think the people who compete at both sites should be removed, and the average score of the rest is what really matters. Fish and Rees can say that Weekly is better, yet they both fight at both sites, and as such their scores make up the average score at both sites. I just won a title at Weekly against DanielsanFTW. My next opponent will be GuidaClayAllDay. You can't say one site is better than the other when the majority of the best fighters from each site, fight at each site
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It wouldn't matter if you removed them, or kept them in because they would be added in both which would equal out wouldn't it?
Also....in my opinion a league is also judged by participation. You may have the 10 fighters who also may be the best fighters in one league, yet another has 50 fighters and has 8 of those best. Junkie has 102 and MMAweekly has 58...that has to add to the league.
 
Originally posted by: pilqs
Date: February 23, 2010 at 04:05 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/junkie-fastasy-fighting-vs-mma-weekly-fantasy-fighting.22786/

Not neccessarily. You just said yourself that your picks were different from one site to the other. I do it myself. So there will be a difference.
 
Originally posted by: Ph1sh
Date: February 23, 2010 at 04:07 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/junkie-fastasy-fighting-vs-mma-weekly-fantasy-fighting.22786/

pilqs said:
Not neccessarily. You just said yourself that your picks were different from one site to the other. I do it myself. So there will be a difference.
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So there is a case where the scores should be added at both sites, right?
 
Originally posted by: pilqs
Date: February 23, 2010 at 04:21 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/junkie-fastasy-fighting-vs-mma-weekly-fantasy-fighting.22786/

I do think that you should remove the fighters that participate in both leagues. For the most part people will pick differently for the same event based on who their opponent is. It's either that, or you get everyone to officially declare which site you score them on.
 
Originally posted by: metalmike00
Date: February 23, 2010 at 04:23 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/junkie-fastasy-fighting-vs-mma-weekly-fantasy-fighting.22786/

i use the same picks for both sites.
so far im undefeated at weekly. i would say the lower tier and mid level fighters here are better than the ones at weekly but the top is fairly equal with most of them competing at both sites.
 
Originally posted by: andrewrees
Date: February 23, 2010 at 04:28 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/junkie-fastasy-fighting-vs-mma-weekly-fantasy-fighting.22786/

metalmike00 said:
i use the same picks for both sites.
so far im undefeated at weekly. i would say the lower tier and mid level fighters here are better than the ones at weekly but the top is fairly equal with most of them competing at both sites.
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Junkie is definitley getting there but for the time being i still fully believe weekly has the superior fighters as proved at the latest installement of the epk invitational. BB can correct me if im wrong but we did the junkie vs weekly thing last year at ufc 100 so im assuming we'll do it again this year for the july ppv?
 
Originally posted by: Gibbs
Date: February 23, 2010 at 04:35 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/junkie-fastasy-fighting-vs-mma-weekly-fantasy-fighting.22786/

I think the tops are equal but there is more depth here at junkie
 
Originally posted by: Castellammarese
Date: February 23, 2010 at 04:35 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/junkie-fastasy-fighting-vs-mma-weekly-fantasy-fighting.22786/

Say, just for the sake of an example, that there are 20 people that compete at both sites. Say each of those 20 score 80 points at an event, while everyone else scores 70.
20 x 80 = 1600
Now say that Junkie has 100 people competing, while Weekly has 50
Junkie = (100-20) x 70 = 5600
Weekly = (50-20) x 70 = 2100
Now, if you include the people that compete at both sites:
Junkie = 1600 + 5600 = 7200
Weekly = 1600 + 2100 = 3700
To get the average, devide by 100 for Junkie and 50 for Weekly
Junkie = 7200/100 = 72
Weekly = 3700/50 = 74
Because they have less fighters, the people competing at both sites will drag the score up for Weekly
(Offcourse, not everyone who competes at each site will score higher than others, its just an example of how they can affect the average score more at Weekly than at Junkie)
 
Originally posted by: Ph1sh
Date: February 23, 2010 at 05:19 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/junkie-fastasy-fighting-vs-mma-weekly-fantasy-fighting.22786/

Castellammarese said:
Say, just for the sake of an example, that there are 20 people that compete at both sites. Say each of those 20 score 80 points at an event, while everyone else scores 70.
20 x 80 = 1600
Now say that Junkie has 100 people competing, while Weekly has 50
Junkie = (100-20) x 70 = 5600
Weekly = (50-20) x 70 = 2100
Now, if you include the people that compete at both sites:
Junkie = 1600 + 5600 = 7200
Weekly = 1600 + 2100 = 3700
To get the average, devide by 100 for Junkie and 50 for Weekly
Junkie = 7200/100 = 72
Weekly = 3700/50 = 74
Because they have less fighters, the people competing at both sites will drag the score up for Weekly
(Offcourse, not everyone who competes at each site will score higher than others, its just an example of how they can affect the average score more at Weekly than at Junkie)
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Based on your numbers...and the averages I posted above, it does seem like the Junkie scores are better.
 
Originally posted by: buffaloblue
Date: February 23, 2010 at 06:08 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/junkie-fastasy-fighting-vs-mma-weekly-fantasy-fighting.22786/

The reality is you can talk about being better all you want.
You have yet to beat MMAWeekly H2H.
0-2 I believe?
 
Originally posted by: El-Diablo
Date: February 23, 2010 at 06:11 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/junkie-fastasy-fighting-vs-mma-weekly-fantasy-fighting.22786/

buffaloblue said:
The reality is you can talk about being better all you want.
You have yet to beat MMAWeekly H2H.
0-2 I believe?
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Your right until junkie beats weekly straight up.
 
Originally posted by: Ph1sh
Date: February 23, 2010 at 06:17 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/junkie-fastasy-fighting-vs-mma-weekly-fantasy-fighting.22786/

buffaloblue said:
The reality is you can talk about being better all you want.
You have yet to beat MMAWeekly H2H.
0-2 I believe?
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BB...are you talking about the invitational?
 
Originally posted by: buffaloblue
Date: February 23, 2010 at 06:24 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/junkie-fastasy-fighting-vs-mma-weekly-fantasy-fighting.22786/

Ph1sh said:
buffaloblue said:
The reality is you can talk about being better all you want.
You have yet to beat MMAWeekly H2H.
0-2 I believe?
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BB...are you talking about the invitational?
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And last years MMAJunkie vs MMAWeekly event.
 
Originally posted by: Ph1sh
Date: February 23, 2010 at 06:30 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/junkie-fastasy-fighting-vs-mma-weekly-fantasy-fighting.22786/

buffaloblue said:
Ph1sh said:
buffaloblue said:
The reality is you can talk about being better all you want.
You have yet to beat MMAWeekly H2H.
0-2 I believe?
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BB...are you talking about the invitational?
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And last years MMAJunkie vs MMAWeekly event.
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Just seems like 12 fighters out of 160 maybe won't tell the whole story...especially with new people coming and old fighters leaving. Some time it would be fun to have people pick a site to fight for one event (for the people who may fight at both) and see what the average scores are between the two.
 
Originally posted by: buffaloblue
Date: February 23, 2010 at 06:43 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/junkie-fastasy-fighting-vs-mma-weekly-fantasy-fighting.22786/

Ph1sh said:
buffaloblue said:
Ph1sh said:
BB...are you talking about the invitational?
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And last years MMAJunkie vs MMAWeekly event.
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Just seems like 12 fighters out of 160 maybe won't tell the whole story...especially with new people coming and old fighters leaving. Some time it would be fun to have people pick a site to fight for one event (for the people who may fight at both) and see what the average scores are between the two.
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WE had like 50 or so H2H matchups last year.
With people picking sites.
 
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