Justice Thread

does anyone have any empathy for Carmello Anthony the basketball player? he didn't deserve national headlines

If my wife knew who he was, I'm sure that would be her take on this.
 
As long as he was convicted of murder and sentenced to a meaningful amount of time, yes


This, "he deserved the death penalty!" is a wild overreaction.

He didn't randomly stab him unprovoked while he was going to the water fountain.

They had a confrontation and he told him, "if you touch me, really bad shit is going to go down", while reaching into his pocket like he had a knife or gun. Kid decided to roll the dice, and other kid decided to go full retard wanna-be gangster and is now a convicted murderer as a result.

Point is, there were mitigating circumstances. It wasn't a textbook "max penalty possible" scenario.
As he put himself in the situation that he knew would cause conflict. He chose the confrontation knowing he had a weapon, he was looking for a reason to use it.

Did you carry a blade at your HS track meets? Didn't think so. Pos knew what he wanted to do ahead of time.
 
I get seeing both sides buckey, but seems you're doing it just to stir the pot.

Coulda, shoulda, woulda, is pointless. A 17 yr old killed another kid for absolutely zero reason. He was 100% at fault and made the decision to put himself there.

You need to get tf out of Illinois, it's warping your brain. Not in a good way.

How many shootings did you have last weekend?

If a result of 35 years as a convicted murderer makes you mad, you must not follow the legal system at all.

This was a reasonable verdict given the circumstances.

I could easily put together 20,000 words of much worse crimes that you haven't heard about (didn't hit the 24 hr news cycle) that received less strict verdicts and would make you really lose your shit.
 
To clarify, that wasn't actually my argument. Obviously would want to kill if it was my kid, but my argument was primarily about not giving a shit if he got life imprisonment.
I agree, but you're too nice @Tito Orcheese

This fucking puke brought a weapon, purposely went where he knew he was not supposed to be, killed an innocent kid, simple as.

Put a fucking bullet in this pos' head.

Sorry, like I said, my filter is gone these days.
 
If a result of 35 years as a convicted murderer makes you mad, you must not follow the legal system at all.

This was a reasonable verdict given the circumstances.

I could easily put together 20,000 words of much worse crimes that you haven't heard about (didn't hit the 24 hr news cycle) that received less strict verdicts and would make you really lose your shit.
Nvm about me telling you to leave Illinois. You're just as bad as the rest from there. Keep making your excuses. Exactly why you live in a shithole.
 
Nvm about me telling you to leave Illinois. You're just as bad as the rest from there. Keep making your excuses. Exactly why you live in a shithole.

Think whatever you want.

i try to live in reality, not a 24 hour news perpetual outrage cycle.

Reality is that no one gave a shit about Melissa Ortega.

People only pretend to give a shit about this because their social media feeds are flooded with "hot takes".


Two men have been sentenced for the shooting death of 8-year-old Melissa Ortega.

In January 2022, the young girl was walking with her mom in Little Village near 26th Street and Pulaski Road.

The 8-year-old was struck by a stray bullet from a nearby gang shooting, police said.

Prosecutors said Xavier Guzman was driving when Emilio Corripio, then 16, started to shoot in the direction of an alleged rival gang.

Corripio pleaded guilty in March to first degree murder. At the time of the shooting, he was on juvenile probation for two carjackings and possession of a stolen vehicle.

He was sentenced to 27 years.

Three years after her death, Guzman also pleaded guilty to one count of murder. He was sentenced to 20 years.

Ortega had only been living in the Chicago area for a couple of months when she was killed.

Shortly after her death, her family released a statement saying in part, "Melissa hoped for a better life here: she wanted to learn English, she wanted to experience Chicago snow, she wanted to get a build-a-bear, she wanted to make Tik Tok dances with her friends. At age 8, she was a girl full of hope and had her whole life ahead of her. She sought to achieve the American Dream but was instead given American Violence.

As her mother laments, "Me mataron a mi bebé. Me la mataron ... mi princesa mi dulce niña," meaning "They killed my baby. They killed her ... my princess my sweet girl."


A mural was created by Milton Coronado to honor Melissa Ortega. The mural was a collaborative effort between Coronado, his non-profit organization The Mural Movement, Pilsen photographer and videographer William Guerrero who is known as The Kid from Pilsen on social media, and community activist Ricky Medina.
 
^^ those motherfuckers should have got life or the death penalty.

No one will post on Facebook or take to the streets though
 
I agree, but you're too nice @Tito Orcheese

This fucking puke brought a weapon, purposely went where he knew he was not supposed to be, killed an innocent kid, simple as.

Put a fucking bullet in this pos' head.

Sorry, like I said, my filter is gone these days.

I'll say again, I don't think 35 yrs is a light sentence, but I completely understand several outlooks simultaneously, including the ones that don't line up with Google.

I am, and always will be, of the mind that it's quite easy not to be arrested for murder. It's hard to have sympathy for those folks. There is definitely a small % that were wrongfully accused, though. This is obviously not the case here.
 
I'll say again, I don't think 35 yrs is a light sentence, but I completely understand several outlooks simultaneously, including the ones that don't line up with Google.

I am, and always will be, of the mind that it's quite easy not to be arrested for murder. It's hard to have sympathy for those folks. There is definitely a small % that were wrongfully accused, though. This is obviously not the case here.

I have ZERO sympathy for Anthony.

I wouldn't have cared if he got 50 or the full 99 years.

Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. He murdered Austin and now he's a convicted murdered.


We do have a legal system though, and the judge acted within our system given the mitigating factors.


If you think this was 'the worst', you aren't paying attention... this was actually reasonable. I got dozens more that will make you want to burn the world to ash.
 
People only pretend to give a shit about this because their social media feeds are flooded with "hot takes

This is bullshit for many of us here. It's not our fault of we didn't hear about something. I don't get any news from social media feeds because I don't have any social media accounts beyond this forum and a Facebook account that I have to have for work, which I very rarely login to.
 
Think whatever you want.

i try to live in reality, not a 24 hour news perpetual outrage cycle.

Reality is that no one gave a shit about Melissa Ortega.

People only pretend to give a shit about this because their social media feeds are flooded with "hot takes".


Two men have been sentenced for the shooting death of 8-year-old Melissa Ortega.

In January 2022, the young girl was walking with her mom in Little Village near 26th Street and Pulaski Road.

The 8-year-old was struck by a stray bullet from a nearby gang shooting, police said.

Prosecutors said Xavier Guzman was driving when Emilio Corripio, then 16, started to shoot in the direction of an alleged rival gang.

Corripio pleaded guilty in March to first degree murder. At the time of the shooting, he was on juvenile probation for two carjackings and possession of a stolen vehicle.

He was sentenced to 27 years.

Three years after her death, Guzman also pleaded guilty to one count of murder. He was sentenced to 20 years.

Ortega had only been living in the Chicago area for a couple of months when she was killed.

Shortly after her death, her family released a statement saying in part, "Melissa hoped for a better life here: she wanted to learn English, she wanted to experience Chicago snow, she wanted to get a build-a-bear, she wanted to make Tik Tok dances with her friends. At age 8, she was a girl full of hope and had her whole life ahead of her. She sought to achieve the American Dream but was instead given American Violence.

As her mother laments, "Me mataron a mi bebé. Me la mataron ... mi princesa mi dulce niña," meaning "They killed my baby. They killed her ... my princess my sweet girl."


A mural was created by Milton Coronado to honor Melissa Ortega. The mural was a collaborative effort between Coronado, his non-profit organization The Mural Movement, Pilsen photographer and videographer William Guerrero who is known as The Kid from Pilsen on social media, and community activist Ricky Medina.
You're bringing up a complete different situation. Ffs, no wonder we all try to avoid you like the plague.

Do you have add? We were talking about a kid who showed up to his high-school track meet with a weapon. Made the conscious decision to walk his stupid ass to a place that he knew was against the rules. Picked a fight, stabbed a kid to death, and you're making excuses for this waste of a human?

And your defense is to bring up a case that has zero correlation? Im sorry, but kindly fuck off.
 
You're bringing up a complete different situation. Ffs, no wonder we all try to avoid you like the plague.

Do you have add? We were talking about a kid who showed up to his high-school track meet with a weapon. Made the conscious decision to walk his stupid ass to a place that he knew was against the rules. Picked a fight, stabbed a kid to death, and you're making excuses for this waste of a human?

And your defense is to bring up a case that has zero correlation? Im sorry, but kindly fuck off.

These kids brought guns in a car in a school zone, shot into a residential neighborhood and killed an 8 year old

They got 27 and 20 years.

No one is lighting up social media or calling for justice.
 
You're bringing up a complete different situation. Ffs, no wonder we all try to avoid you like the plague.

Do you have add? We were talking about a kid who showed up to his high-school track meet with a weapon. Made the conscious decision to walk his stupid ass to a place that he knew was against the rules. Picked a fight, stabbed a kid to death, and you're making excuses for this waste of a human?

And your defense is to bring up a case that has zero correlation? Im sorry, but kindly fuck off.
. Put me on ignore, man... it's easy and if I bug you that much I'm sorry and I understand.

I do wish you the best and I apologize if I mad you mad.
 
These kids brought guns in a car in a school zone, shot into a residential neighborhood and killed an 8 year old

They got 27 and 20 years.

No one is lighting up social media or calling for justice.
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Honestly, if I'm really not wanted here I'll just leave.

Good luck with everything.
 
. Put me on ignore, man... it's easy and if I bug you that much I'm sorry and I understand.

I do wish you the best and I apologize if I mad you mad.
You're not worthy to be my first on ignore. Never have, never will.

I won't hesitate anymore to call you out on your bullshit though. You constantly argue common sense for the sake of stirring the pot.

You're as bad as my soon to be exwife, just looking to cause drama for attention.

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@osubuckeye4 , you've actually admitted to what he's claiming several times, lol. You like playing the devil's advocate for conversation.

Why let that run you off now?

You've been laid into harder than that by other posters here before for the same thing.
 
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