Kevin Nash And Samoa Joe On Pro Wrestling vs MMA
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Nash ( my favorite when I liked pro-wrestling ) has a small point as far as the possibility of fights ending in 30 seconds, whereas wrestling is a guarunteed 20-25 minute matchup that won't just end all of a sudden...
But really, I dont see how wrestling is competing aginast mma, aside from the fact that they can come out every week and do shows because they're not actually fighting and putting as much damage on their bodies.
I'd be careful with the not putting as much damage on their bodies statement. Iow a few guys that are wrastlers and they have plenty of damage being inflicted. Yes it is scripted but you can only fake so much.
That being said, there is no comparison to the 2. One is entertainment and one is a sport. WWE is a publicly traded company one of it's main competitors listed on the exchane is none other than Playboy. That alone takes WWE out of comparison to ANY MMA Org.
Samoa Joe: "Alot of the stuff you see in MMA you saw in Professional Wrestling way back in the day".
Well no sh1t sherlock... Martial arts have been around for millenia and had a huge influence on 'wrasslin'... As the name would indicate they play a pretty important role in MMA as well.
I stopped watching after that comment (about 4 seconds in) as I realized they probably weren't going to follow up that opening statement with anything profound or enlightening.
I did not read the article but I would like to comment. I think a lot of the wrestlers have huge respect for the MMA guys. A lot of the wrestlers follow MMA very closely. Stone Cold, Jamie Noble, Kurt Angle and especially "The Undertaker" (Mark Calaway). The Undertaker has been with WWE for almost 20 years, and over the years his body has taken an incredible beating, and now incorporates a "MMA stance", submissions and even wears mma gloves. I think he does this to save his body from some of the high impact stuff he does. (Scripted or not, those guys take a beating at least 3 nights a week, between televised events and house shows).
I think there are some comparable aspects between MMA and WWE. But only in the type of moves some WWE guys do. A lot of WWE guys do rear naked chokes and arm bars, but they really don't put any pressure on. Fact of the matter is this...WWE is entertainment, MMA is "entertaining", but when you boil it all down it is man againts man, survival of the fittest.
This is what is wierd. I will watch MMA and then watch WWE and will be waiting for the WWE dude to finish his opponent. I have to remind myself that WWE is scripted. Creature of habit I guess.
pottybhoy said:
has the undertaker not adopted a leg submission as his finisher?
:lol:
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Yep...It is a gogoplata (sorry if I mispelled that) but in WWE circles they call it either "hell's gate", or "the devil's triangle". He used to pick his opponent and pile drive them on their head. I think his knee's and hips have seen better days, so he doesn't do that move very often anymore.
Sedulous said:
Wrestler's take far more punishment. In MMA your body get's months to heal, in Pro Wrestling....you take a handful of painkillers and keep going.
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Anybody who doesn't think wrestlers take real damage has their head in the sand... I read Mankinds book years ago and the storeys he tells are almost unbelievable. Sure the results are pre-determined, but the dynamite, barbed wire, tacs, chairs, bats, and cars inflict very real damage that takes months to heal - and as sedulous poitned out you just pop a few pills and get ready to perform 3 more times that week... I don't like pro-wrasslin, but I do respect its practitioners.
Sedulous said:
Wrestler's take far more punishment. In MMA your body get's months to heal, in Pro Wrestling....you take a handful of painkillers and keep going.
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Wrestlers perform every week! lol that should tell you how much punishment they take compared to MMA fighters. Do you think MMA fighters would be able to compete on a weekly basis lol? im sure some of these fights would disagree with you
Pete Sell Vs. Matt Brown
Matt Hammill vs. Mark Munoz
GSP vs. Fitch
Wandy vs Rampage (all 3 fights)
Wandy Vs Sakuraba
Crocop Vs Wandy
Wandy Vs Jardine
Wandy Vs. Liddell
Arona Vs. Sakuraba probably the best example. Imagine Sakuraba taking some pain killers and going at it again next weekend? lol