King Mo and Noons using illegal substances.

Originally posted by: Moranis
Date: August 23, 2010 at 09:39 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/king-mo-and-noons-using-illegal-substances.29529/

Nothing in the rule says Oxygen is illegal. It isn't on the approved substance list (as in being cage-side), but that certainly doesn't make it illegal nor even un-approved. Maybe they got permission to use it cage side, rather then just in the locker-room.
 
Originally posted by: Sedulous
Date: August 23, 2010 at 09:55 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/king-mo-and-noons-using-illegal-substances.29529/

There should be consequences even if it's just ringside banned. Rules is rules.
 
Originally posted by: mmablaster
Date: August 23, 2010 at 10:20 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/king-mo-and-noons-using-illegal-substances.29529/

It might not be illegal, but it is not an approved thing and definitely pushing the envelope. I have a feeling there will be an inquiry and investigation.
 
Originally posted by: HBK42581
Date: August 23, 2010 at 10:36 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/king-mo-and-noons-using-illegal-substances.29529/

Can you have an oxygen tank with you at ringside? No?
Enough said.
 
Originally posted by: ResoluteProtector
Date: August 23, 2010 at 10:45 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/king-mo-and-noons-using-illegal-substances.29529/

Is it illegal? According to the unified rules, there is nothing that says you cannot use it. However, when it comes to approved items allowed ringside, it's not on the list. With this in mind, should it have been used at ringside? No. Was it wrong to use it in the ring? Yes. But in terms of it being illegal, with just a one word answer, I don't have one.
 
Originally posted by: jvillain
Date: August 23, 2010 at 01:27 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/king-mo-and-noons-using-illegal-substances.29529/

What if they asked the AC officials and they said "ya, go ahead?"
The advertisement says it holds 4 litres of O2. That is probably less than 4 lung fulls.
 
Originally posted by: roorippin
Date: August 23, 2010 at 01:35 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/king-mo-and-noons-using-illegal-substances.29529/

I'll draw a paralell so that people may be able to understand the controversy better. This is purely speculation, as I dont intend to go do tons of research and post examples but I'll do my best.
Recently in sports Illegal drugs have taken a 180. Now, instead of hiring doctors to ensure that illegal drugs are not being used, these doctors are prescribing the illegal drugs, in oder to make them legal. Here is my example. Please understand that I am not a doctor, or a serious athlete. While I have heard this from multiple sources, I am not claiming it is fact.
In baseball, a lot of perfect games/no hitters have been pitched recently. I odnt know the number right now, but it is a huge percent of all perfect games/no hitters ever thrown, in just one year. The reason for this, is being blamed on the drug adderol (sp?). It is not a legal substance to use, unless you are prescribed by a doctor. Thsi drug is making it nearly impossible for pitchers to not concentrate 100% on the catchers glove, resulting in great pitching. Whether or not it actually adds to your physical performance is up for debate, but pitching is improving dramatically. On either sports center or another espn late show (could have also been on my college network), they showed a number of how many players are prescribed adderoll recently , and its astounding, and they say its almost all pitchers.
I am comparing this to the oxygen for these reasons. Oxygen is a seemingly harmless drug to have at your sporting event, just like a "concentration" pill would be, especially when these two things are used to help people. Here is where the problem starts. Who is to decide who Actually needs these drugs, versus whos game would improve because of them. Unfortunately., it is also the guy who makes more money when writing a prescription. Right now Doctors are at a fork in the road for sports, they can either help us by keeping it all natural, or "help" us by trying to find every prescription drug that could help athletic performance.
Again, this is all assuming that doctors prescribed the O2, and not that the fighters brought it in illegally.
 
Originally posted by: HBK42581
Date: August 23, 2010 at 01:40 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/king-mo-and-noons-using-illegal-substances.29529/

roorippin said:
I'll draw a paralell so that people may be able to understand the controversy better. This is purely speculation, as I dont intend to go do tons of research and post examples but I'll do my best.
Recently in sports Illegal drugs have taken a 180. Now, instead of hiring doctors to ensure that illegal drugs are not being used, these doctors are prescribing the illegal drugs, in oder to make them legal. Here is my example. Please understand that I am not a doctor, or a serious athlete. While I have heard this from multiple sources, I am not claiming it is fact.
In baseball, a lot of perfect games/no hitters have been pitched recently. I odnt know the number right now, but it is a huge percent of all perfect games/no hitters ever thrown, in just one year. The reason for this, is being blamed on the drug adderol (sp?). It is not a legal substance to use, unless you are prescribed by a doctor. Thsi drug is making it nearly impossible for pitchers to not concentrate 100% on the catchers glove, resulting in great pitching. Whether or not it actually adds to your physical performance is up for debate, but pitching is improving dramatically. On either sports center or another espn late show (could have also been on my college network), they showed a number of how many players are prescribed adderoll recently , and its astounding, and they say its almost all pitchers.
I am comparing this to the oxygen for these reasons. Oxygen is a seemingly harmless drug to have at your sporting event, just like a "concentration" pill would be, especially when these two things are used to help people. Here is where the problem starts. Who is to decide who Actually needs these drugs, versus whos game would improve because of them. Unfortunately., it is also the guy who makes more money when writing a prescription. Right now Doctors are at a fork in the road for sports, they can either help us by keeping it all natural, or "help" us by trying to find every prescription drug that could help athletic performance.
Again, this is all assuming that doctors prescribed the O2, and not that the fighters brought it in illegally.
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If you watch the movie "Bigger, stronger, Faster" they show some footage of US fighter pilots that take Aderol for the same purpose. They also take a look at when Tiger Woods had lazer eye correction to give himself 20/15 vision. Crazy s---.
 
Originally posted by: roorippin
Date: August 23, 2010 at 01:53 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/king-mo-and-noons-using-illegal-substances.29529/

Yes, it is interesting what drugs can do to us. What will really be interesting, is to see how this plays out. Will drugs prescribed by doctors become an accepted norm? Or will private doctors prescriptions be considered void as far as the AC is concerned?
 
Originally posted by: mabrown45
Date: August 23, 2010 at 03:23 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/king-mo-and-noons-using-illegal-substances.29529/

jvillain said:
What if they asked the AC officials and they said "ya, go ahead?"
The advertisement says it holds 4 litres of O2.
That is probably less than 4 lung fulls
.
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True but it is also pure O2..........what we normally breath is only about 20% oxygen.
 
Originally posted by: Moranis
Date: August 23, 2010 at 04:12 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/king-mo-and-noons-using-illegal-substances.29529/

just as I said, not illegal and they had permission to use it.
 
Originally posted by: keoni
Date: August 24, 2010 at 01:58 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/king-mo-and-noons-using-illegal-substances.29529/

Thats a good picture of Noons and his corner. LOL. If it wasnt on this forum it would look weird. Just a joke.
 
Originally posted by: AngelRenegade999
Date: August 24, 2010 at 03:54 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/king-mo-and-noons-using-illegal-substances.29529/

Wow, That bottled oxygen's did wonders for Muhammed Lawal!?!!??! .....
Oh wait, it didn't.
 
Originally posted by: Goner
Date: August 24, 2010 at 07:49 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/king-mo-and-noons-using-illegal-substances.29529/

Author is a dummy. They aren't eating it and are, therefore, not "ingesting" it. 1 Breath of pure O2 isn't going to have magical effects.
 
Originally posted by: condrab
Date: August 24, 2010 at 07:54 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/king-mo-and-noons-using-illegal-substances.29529/

discostick said:
I'd ask for my money back, since it only seems to work 50% of the time
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this
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Originally posted by: jvillain
Date: August 24, 2010 at 08:03 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/king-mo-and-noons-using-illegal-substances.29529/

I hear they were caught drinking water with illegal oxygen in it as well.
 
Originally posted by: Fedor_is_god
Date: August 24, 2010 at 08:58 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/king-mo-and-noons-using-illegal-substances.29529/

SF should have its own list of "approved" items to avoid these sorts of things from happening.
 
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