Kryptonite of Supermen

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: whatdupdoh
Date: June 28, 2010 at 01:17 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/kryptonite-of-supermen.27271/

Jui Jitsu.
key victories over these Powerhouses (The best of the best):
-Brock lesnar (only loss)
-GSP (1 of 2) And most would agree Serra(jui jitsu practictioner) was a fluke
-Anderson silva (2 of 3)
- And now Fedor
My point isn't to say Jui Jitsu is the best ever Im just saying it's obviously what has been used to beat the best ever. And this needs to be noted by all the people saying jui jitsu is an empty threat and/or dead.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: elbow2knee
Date: June 28, 2010 at 01:23 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/kryptonite-of-supermen.27271/

BJJ is always a good addition to your game. It is a wrestlers Kryptonite. Wrestlers always seem to struggle with world class bjj guys.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: whatdupdoh
Date: June 28, 2010 at 01:40 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/kryptonite-of-supermen.27271/

I just think its crazy that if you don't count the Serra fluke and Anderson's first fight ever everyone of theses guys losses are from submissions and they are seen as the greatest ever, that should definitely tell us something.
The best ever even make mistakes and thats when a submission will prevail. Almost 20 years after UFC1 and yet BJJstill proves to be needed to beat the best.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: phoenix-mma
Date: June 28, 2010 at 11:01 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/kryptonite-of-supermen.27271/

You know what else is kryptonite? An overhand right...
GSP (via Serra)
Rashad courtesy of Machida
Machida by way of Shogun by way of Curitiba, Brazil
Miguel Torres as delivered with love by Brian Bowles
Point is, its MMA...there are many ways to lose & it only takes 1.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: bjj_rage
Date: June 28, 2010 at 11:10 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/kryptonite-of-supermen.27271/

thing is that a bjj wizzard will always have a shot against anyone... just like a good puncher will always have a shot too...

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: Fjodorz
Date: June 28, 2010 at 11:12 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/kryptonite-of-supermen.27271/

bjj_rage said:
thing is that a bjj wizzard will always have a shot against anyone... just like a good puncher will always have a shot too...
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Until they face Lesnar who will put them on their backs and pound them out.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: bjj_rage
Date: June 28, 2010 at 11:16 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/kryptonite-of-supermen.27271/

Fjodorz said:
bjj_rage said:
thing is that a bjj wizzard will always have a shot against anyone... just like a good puncher will always have a shot too...
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Until they face Lesnar who will put them on their backs and pound them out.
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hmmm... yeah, because Mir didnt sub Lesnar right??? anyways, why are you bringing lesnar on the table, I thought you thought that "GOOD FIGHTERS DONT TAP, THEY WIN" well, lesnar tapped like a litte girl...so under your brillant conception, lesnar is not a good figther, since he tapped and lost.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: 7time
Date: June 28, 2010 at 11:23 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/kryptonite-of-supermen.27271/

bjj_rage said:
lesnar tapped like a litte girl...so under your brillant conception, lesnar is not a good figther, since he tapped and lost.
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So did Fedor... Like a little Russian girl.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: bjj_rage
Date: June 28, 2010 at 11:27 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/kryptonite-of-supermen.27271/

7time said:
bjj_rage said:
lesnar tapped like a litte girl...so under your brillant conception, lesnar is not a good figther, since he tapped and lost.
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So did Fedor... Like a little Russian girl.
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Both guys tapped.
Fedor tapped with one hand, hardly a little girl way... anyways is a tap.
Lesnar tapped like he was going to die (knee bars can cause horrible injuries in his defense)...

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: 7time
Date: June 28, 2010 at 11:37 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/kryptonite-of-supermen.27271/

bjj_rage said:
Both guys tapped.
Fedor tapped with one hand, hardly a little girl way... anyways is a tap.
Lesnar tapped like he was going to die (knee bars can cause horrible injuries in his defense)...
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Wait, so Fedor got subbed quicker then Lesnar but when Brock tapped, it was like a girl and Fedor tapped like a man ? Put down the juice man. You keep hyping Werdum's record to justify the loss to yourself when the truth is(regardless of pay) Werdum wouldn't hang in the UFC. Just give it up man.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: bjj_rage
Date: June 28, 2010 at 11:43 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/kryptonite-of-supermen.27271/

7time said:
bjj_rage said:
Both guys tapped.
Fedor tapped with one hand, hardly a little girl way... anyways is a tap.
Lesnar tapped like he was going to die (knee bars can cause horrible injuries in his defense)...
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Wait, so Fedor got subbed quicker then Lesnar but when Brock tapped, it was like a girl and Fedor tapped like a man ? Put down the juice man. You keep hyping Werdum's record to justify the loss to yourself when the truth is(regardless of pay) Werdum wouldn't hang in the UFC. Just give it up man.
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Werdum is x2 the submission fighter MIr is. FACT!
Lesnar got subed by Mir, rookie mistake, it happens.
Fedor got subbed by Werdum, couldnt say rookie, Fedor is anything but rookie, made a mistake, got caught, it happens.
Werdum's wins>every single UFC hw. iM NOT saying he will beat or rule the UFC HWd, not at all, but he has a shot against anyone, because of his ground game.
The lesnar tapped, I told you, dont wanna read or understand my post, NOT MY FUKING PROBLEM. it was an adjective that I used to resamble lesnar reactions, nothing more. Both tappes are equal, nothing wrong with tapping. (it was the mayor troll of this forum who said that "GOOD FIGHTERS DONT TAP, THEY WIN".... NOT ME!)

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: 7time
Date: June 28, 2010 at 11:52 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/kryptonite-of-supermen.27271/

Twice the bjj specialist, sure. But that's neither here nor there. They fight in a cage tomorrow and Mir ko's him. I don't think Werdum's wins are better then every UFC HW.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: bjj_rage
Date: June 28, 2010 at 11:59 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/kryptonite-of-supermen.27271/

7time said:
Twice the bjj specialist, sure. But that's neither here nor there. They fight in a cage tomorrow and Mir ko's him. I don't think Werdum's wins are better then every UFC HW.
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Fair enough, that's your opinion, I dont think Mir will beat Werdum.
You wanna go through the records?
Carwin good wins: GG and Mir
Lesnar: Mir and some could say Randy
Cain: Kongo (be level fighter) and Nog
JDS: Werdum, CC.
Mir: Tim, Lesnar, Nog
Werdum
Aleks, Vera, GG (twice) Sergei, and Fedor.
Not even close IMO.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: Fjodorz
Date: June 28, 2010 at 12:01 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/kryptonite-of-supermen.27271/

And werdum got booted from ufc caise they didnt want to pay so much to a secong grade one dimensional grappler who lost to unranked jds an to aa. He then proceeded to division two in sf where the fights are easier he has won two no big deal heavies there and now he proceeds fot the division two champ belt. Kinda cool their last number one contnder who he won didnt have the courage to go and try the champion

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: Fjodorz
Date: June 28, 2010 at 12:05 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/kryptonite-of-supermen.27271/

bjj_rage said:
Fair enough, that's your opinion, I dont think Mir will beat Werdum.
You wanna go through the records?
Carwin good wins: GG and Mir
Lesnar: Mir and some could say Randy
Cain: Kongo (be level fighter) and Nog
JDS: Werdum, CC.
Mir: Tim, Lesnar, Nog
Werdum
Aleks, Vera, GG (twice) Sergei, and Fedor.
Not even close IMO.
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vera is lhw why bring him up aleks was never ranked (u just thought he is good cause his lastname right) sergei wasnt ranked so all you have is fedor and even u urself have claimed that victory as fluke so how can ot be like a positive thing here? U change ur opinion when it helps u argue.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: bjj_rage
Date: June 28, 2010 at 12:11 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/kryptonite-of-supermen.27271/

Fjodorz said:
bjj_rage said:
Fair enough, that's your opinion, I dont think Mir will beat Werdum.
You wanna go through the records?
Carwin good wins: GG and Mir
Lesnar: Mir and some could say Randy
Cain: Kongo (be level fighter) and Nog
JDS: Werdum, CC.
Mir: Tim, Lesnar, Nog
Werdum
Aleks, Vera, GG (twice) Sergei, and Fedor.
Not even close IMO.
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vera is lhw why bring him up aleks was never ranked (u just thought he is good cause his lastname right) sergei wasnt ranked so all you have is fedor and even u urself have claimed that victory as fluke so how can ot be like a positive thing here? U change ur opinion when it helps u argue.
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Because Vera beat Mir...
By the way, I dont know where I got that Werdum beat sergei, it was the other way around.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: 7time
Date: June 28, 2010 at 12:11 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/kryptonite-of-supermen.27271/

bjj_rage said:
7time said:
Twice the bjj specialist, sure. But that's neither here nor there. They fight in a cage tomorrow and Mir ko's him. I don't think Werdum's wins are better then every UFC HW.
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Fair enough, that's your opinion, I dont think Mir will beat Werdum.
You wanna go through the records?
Carwin good wins: GG and Mir
Lesnar: Mir and some could say Randy
Cain: Kongo (be level fighter) and Nog
JDS: Werdum, CC.
Mir: Tim, Lesnar, Nog
Werdum
Aleks, Vera, GG (twice) Sergei, and Fedor.
Not even close IMO.
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So Aleks is considerd a good win? So is Vera? Funny how JDS doesn't get credit for beating Yvel or GG. And my original point was that you said ALL UFC HW's. You named the hyped ones of the moment which is cool, it supports your point.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: bjj_rage
Date: June 28, 2010 at 12:12 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/kryptonite-of-supermen.27271/

yeah, you are right, CC is on the UFC and CC has a better record that Werdum
JDS wins over Yvel dont mean much, but I forgot about GG's.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: Sodomizer
Date: June 28, 2010 at 12:14 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/kryptonite-of-supermen.27271/

Werdum wasn't Fedor's first BJJ opponent. So I wouldn't say that it's his kryptonite. He made a mistake. It was bound to happen sooner or later, but it was a mistake.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: Fjodorz
Date: June 28, 2010 at 12:15 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/kryptonite-of-supermen.27271/

Nicely ignored my "fluke win" of fedor