LHK's Country Profiles #1: Papua New Guinea

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Originally posted by: LighthouseKeeper
Date: October 17, 2012 at 08:34 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/lhks-country-profiles-1-papua-new-guinea.48902/

I love learning about new things, and thought some of the Junkies would too. Plus I need a break from reading papers about wildlife management / bird strikes /ARIMA modelling.
So it's time to learn a little bit about Papua New Guinea (PNG), a country that I've never been to but would love to visit.
I've met a couple of people from PNG and they're really nice, but tribal violence seems like a big (and f---ing scary) thing in their country.
I know that PNG has the highest endemic language diversity in the world, and that there are still 'tribes' (for want of a better word) there that are living in their traditional way, with little or no influence from 'western society'.
So let's take a trip to PNG together, Junkies, and learn a little more about the world.
Papua New Guinea is a country in Oceania, just above the northern tip of Queensland (the state in which I live). PNG makes up the eastern half of the island of Papua; the other half is occupied by the Indonesian provinces of Papua and West Papua. PNG gained its independence from Australia in 1975, but remains part of the Commonwealth. Its capital, Port Moresby, is often ranked as one of the worst cities in the world to live in due to a number of factors including gang violence. Perhaps this is part of the reason why the majority of PNG's population live in rural or undeveloped areas.
Due to the extremely rugged terrain of much of the interior, there are over 1000 different cultural groups in PNG, most of which speak their own language. There are around 800-820 indigenous languages in PNG, representing 12% of the world's total languages in a country with a population of approximately 6.2 million. Most people speak a tribal language from where they grew up and Tok Pigin, PNG's pidgin English. When it's written down I can make some sense of Pigin, and when it's spoken really slowly and clearly you might be able to get a sense of what's going on. In the highlands of PNG there is a lot of tribal violence, with people being beaten or killed. Strangely enough, PNG is obsessed with the State of Origin, a yearly series of Aussie rugby league games in which Queensland crushes those weak southerners, New South Wales. Different tribes will support QLD or NSW and there have been deaths associated with these allegiances.
Due to the difficulties of travelling in the interior regions of PNG, the natural environment remains in a fairly good state, and there are probably heaps of new species there waiting to be discovered. The most famous of PNG's wildlife are probably the birds of paradise that Attenborough shows off very nicely in the Life of Birds. But PNG is crawling with fascinating wildlife and... plants (sorry Copper). I would really love to do some research there, though I was talking to some visiting researchers from PNG and got a bit frightened by their stories. One girl had all her money stolen by a tribe who lived adjacent to the area in which she was working... and her 'host' tribe went to battle to get it back for her. One girl was abducted and lost in the jungle for 2 weeks before finding a river and getting to the coast. And one researcher put his PhD on hold to support his friend in their local elections, but ended up watching him get shot and killed. Crazy s---.
A famous Australian ecologist, Tim Flannery, has written a really interesting book about his research in PNG called Throwim Way Leg. A good read and I highly recommend it if you're interested in ecology. He found some new species and had fun times in the highlands in the 80's I think. The book describes the various tribes and characters that he came into contact with, as well as the flora and fauna of PNG.
Hope you enjoyed learning a little bit about PNG Junkies! If anyone has been there, write what you thought about it below.
Don't know what country will be next, maybe an Eastern European one.
Peace
 
Originally posted by: phoman
Date: October 18, 2012 at 04:35 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/lhks-country-profiles-1-papua-new-guinea.48902/

I lived there for about 5 years when I was a kid, went to boarding school in Lae and my parents lived in Wabag in the Highlands, so I would go there for the holidays.
Really awesome place, some of the best reefs you will ever see if you dive/snorkel around the Madang area, heaps of war relics scattered all over the place on land and underwater and amazing scenery/mountains/rivers.
It's true about how dangerous it is, guns were introduced in the 90's and since then it's become a little crazy, before that it was all bows and arrows, spears and big hammer type things to whack your enemies on the head with. We were driving from Mt Hagen to Wabag once and came across two tribes having a war across the dirt road we were driving on, we had to stop and pay each tribe $10 to get past and they stopped their battle while we drove by. They were all in traditional dress kind of like grass skirts, faces and bodies painted and one dude had an arrow poking out of him but he still smiled and waved. As soon as we passed it was on again, arrows and spears getting shot across the road at each other.
I'd love to go back there one day and plan on doing it, if they can get the violence under control it would be an incredible tourist destination.
 
Originally posted by: Sedulous
Date: October 19, 2012 at 09:09 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/lhks-country-profiles-1-papua-new-guinea.48902/

Don't some tribes still practice cannibalism?
 
Originally posted by: osubuckeye4
Date: October 19, 2012 at 10:15 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/lhks-country-profiles-1-papua-new-guinea.48902/

For further reading feel free to go to:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Papua_New_Guinea
It's this new site that just started up, it's pretty rad.
 
Originally posted by: LighthouseKeeper
Date: October 19, 2012 at 07:17 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/lhks-country-profiles-1-papua-new-guinea.48902/

Sedulous said:
Don't some tribes still practice cannibalism?
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Don't think so hey. But maybe.
 
Originally posted by: princecharlestampon
Date: January 11, 2013 at 04:20 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/lhks-country-profiles-1-papua-new-guinea.48902/

Sedulous said:
Don't some tribes still practice cannibalism?
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The Fore tribe in New Guinea still does.
 
Originally posted by: Flound
Date: January 12, 2013 at 05:31 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/lhks-country-profiles-1-papua-new-guinea.48902/

princecharlestampon said:
The Fore tribe in New Guinea still does.
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The Fore are one of the tribes most resistant to modern influence. They maintained the ritual cannibalism of their dead, with the maternal relatives dismembered and distributing portions of the corpse. They also practice the highly ritualized rope warfare.
Indeed, the Fore tribe battles with the Skin tribe are legendary. One really huge tug of war.
 
Originally posted by: princecharlestampon
Date: January 12, 2013 at 06:07 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/lhks-country-profiles-1-papua-new-guinea.48902/

Flound said:
The Fore are one of the tribes most resistant to modern influence. They maintained the ritual cannibalism of their dead, with the maternal relatives dismembered and distributing portions of the corpse. They also practice the highly ritualized rope warfare.
Indeed, the Fore tribe battles with the Skin tribe are legendary. One really huge tug of war.
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I find tribal life in general to be quite interesting.
Years ago in College I did a massive paper on the Fore tribe so I know a bit about them. .
When I went to Africa, I met a couple tribes. The tribe members were lovely and so generous with the very little they had.
 
Originally posted by: princecharlestampon
Date: January 12, 2013 at 06:26 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/lhks-country-profiles-1-papua-new-guinea.48902/

Flound, have you seen the film: Apocalypto? Mel Gibson directed it.
It's a pretty decent tribal film, in case you're interested?
 
Originally posted by: LighthouseKeeper
Date: January 12, 2013 at 09:19 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/lhks-country-profiles-1-papua-new-guinea.48902/

princecharlestampon said:
Flound, have you seen the film: Apocalypto? Mel Gibson directed it.
It's a pretty decent tribal film, in case you're interested?
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Great film. Pretty sure the Fore don't practise cannibalism any more, I think they got that weird laughing disease from it?
 
Originally posted by: princecharlestampon
Date: January 12, 2013 at 09:28 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/lhks-country-profiles-1-papua-new-guinea.48902/

LighthouseKeeper said:
Great film. Pretty sure the Fore don't practise cannibalism any more, I think they got that weird laughing disease from it?
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I was under the impression they still did under a certain ritual???
There's another good tribal film I watched but I can't seem to remember the name at the moment - will let you know when it comes to me
 
Originally posted by: Jak
Date: May 08, 2016 at 02:18 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/lhks-country-profiles-1-papua-new-guinea.48902/

LighthouseKeeper said:
Great film. Pretty sure the Fore don't practise cannibalism any more,
I think they got that weird laughing disease from it
?
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Ha. Ha. That's pretty funny.
On a side note:
1. Papua New Guinea
If you don’t want your penis to be made into soup, don’t head to Papua New Guinea
. Last year, police arrested 29 members of a cannibal cult who ate their victim’s raw brains and made penis soup. They did this because they
believed
their victims were sorcerers guilty of extorting sex and money from villagers. There is currently a
group of 1,000
dedicated to the war on “evil sorcerers.” If you don’t want to get into the middle of this war, steer clear of Papua New Guinea.
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Originally posted by: cobra_punch
Date: May 08, 2016 at 10:17 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/lhks-country-profiles-1-papua-new-guinea.48902/

LHK is a Cannibal
 
Originally posted by: Sapper
Date: May 08, 2016 at 10:45 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/lhks-country-profiles-1-papua-new-guinea.48902/

It's it PNG where the boys have to drink the sperm of the warrior men, to be come a man? I know it's some place like PNG and read about it in school.
 
Originally posted by: Jak
Date: May 08, 2016 at 10:51 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/lhks-country-profiles-1-papua-new-guinea.48902/

Sapper said:
It's it PNG where the boys have to drink the
sperm
of the warrior men, to be
come
a man? I.
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Lol.
 
Originally posted by: Gnarcore
Date: May 08, 2016 at 02:20 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/lhks-country-profiles-1-papua-new-guinea.48902/

Doesn't PNG still have legit head hunters?
The Survivorman episode of PNG was one of his worst experiences and he's been to some of the worst places on earth to survive.
 
Originally posted by: Gnarcore
Date: May 08, 2016 at 02:22 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/lhks-country-profiles-1-papua-new-guinea.48902/

Jak said:
Ha. Ha. That's pretty funny.
On a side note:
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Can you link the source material. I want to read the rest
 
Originally posted by: Jak
Date: May 08, 2016 at 02:38 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/lhks-country-profiles-1-papua-new-guinea.48902/

Gnarcore said:
Can you link the source material. I want to read the rest
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Heck yeah I can!
http://www.whereverworker.com/3-places-cannibals-still-exist
 
Originally posted by: Gnarcore
Date: May 08, 2016 at 02:54 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/lhks-country-profiles-1-papua-new-guinea.48902/

Jak said:
Heck yeah I can!
http://www.whereverworker.com/3-places-cannibals-still-exist
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Thanks. Good ol' LIberia. The US' only attempt at African colonialism results in it still being the worst place in Africa and it is tough to 'outshine' Somalia.
They linked the Vice Guide to Liberia. Seen it before....just crazy.
 
Originally posted by: LighthouseKeeper
Date: May 09, 2016 at 02:07 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/lhks-country-profiles-1-papua-new-guinea.48902/

Jak said:
Ha. Ha. That's pretty funny.
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Not really...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kuru_(disease)
 
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