Martin Kampman vs Dan Hardy

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Originally posted by: jsinsantino
Date: June 15, 2010 at 09:45 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/martin-kampman-vs-dan-hardy.26784/

UFC 115 winner Martin Kampmann eyes fight with Dan Hardy at UFC 120
by Dann Stupp on Jun 14, 2010 at 5:30 pm ET
Martin Kampmann wants fights only against big-name opponents.
That, of course, is easier said than done since the elite of the welterweight division – champ Georges St-Pierre, Josh Koscheck, Thiago Alves and Jon Fitch – are already slated for upcoming fights.
But following his win at UFC 115, Kampmann today told MMAjunkie.com Radio (www.mmajunkie.com/radio) that he sees at least one ideal opponent who's still available: former title-challenger Dan Hardy.
"I'd love to fight Dan Hardy," Kampmann (17-3 MMA, 8-2 UFC) said. "I think that would make a great fight. I heard he doesn't have an opponent right now, so that could be a great opportunity."
Hardy (23-7 MMA, 4-1 UFC) suffered his first UFC loss in March when he fell short in points against St-Pierre at UFC 111. However, the British fighter is expected to be a featured competitor at October's UFC 120 event in London. Officials initially wanted to match Hardy against Dustin Hazelett at the Spike TV-televised event, but Hazelett's upcoming wedding left him unavailable for an October fight date.
However, Kampmann, who's now 4-1 since his drop from middleweight to welterweight, said the timeframe works perfectly for him.
"I'm going to Denmark here in the summer," said Kampmann, who topped highly regarded Paulo Thiago via unanimous decision this past Saturday at UFC 115 in Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada. "I'm coming back sometime in mid-August, so I'd like to fight preferably again in late October or early November. I heard that's when he's lined up, so if he doesn't have an opponent, that would be a great fight."
"That's the type of guy I want. He's ranked high at welterweight, so that would be a great fight."
Despite a near 2-to-1 underdog, Kampmann showed a much-improved ground game and wore down Thiago, who had posted previous wins over the likes of contenders Koscheck and Mike Swick. Kampmann is pleased with his performance but just wishes he had an extra 30 seconds of fight time.
"I was really happy with my win," Kampmann said. "I was really happy with my performance. ... I just wish I had a little more time because I think I could have finished him."

 

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Originally posted by: ResoluteProtector
Date: June 15, 2010 at 09:47 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/martin-kampman-vs-dan-hardy.26784/

I see Kampmann taking this win.

 

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Originally posted by: jsinsantino
Date: June 15, 2010 at 09:50 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/martin-kampman-vs-dan-hardy.26784/

i think this would be a great fight. if it stays on the feet i think they are equal in stand up, if it hits the floor martin has the edge here but dan showed vs gsp that he is very hard to submit and has a good guard. this fight could play out so many different ways but i think martin is a lil more well rounded and would take this fight via dec.

 

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Originally posted by: ThatWillBeAll
Date: June 15, 2010 at 10:01 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/martin-kampman-vs-dan-hardy.26784/

Personally I think Hardy will take this, but I think the poll is going to be in favour of Kampmann. I think if you done this poll last week, it'd have been in favour of Hardy.

 

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Originally posted by: ResoluteProtector
Date: June 15, 2010 at 10:04 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/martin-kampman-vs-dan-hardy.26784/

jsinsantino said:
i think this would be a great fight. if it stays on the feet i think they are equal in stand up, if it hits the floor martin has the edge here but dan showed vs gsp that he is very hard to submit and has a good guard. this fight could play out so many different ways but i think martin is a lil more well rounded and would take this fight via dec.
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Hardy does seem to be a difficult fighter to sub, however, Kampmann's more consistent use of his Jiu Jitzsu to gain a sumbission in the Octagon, leads me to acknowledge what I believe could possibly be a better chance of actually pulling off the sub.
But I agree the poll results would be different if this had been discussed before the Kampmann/Thiago fight.

 

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Originally posted by: Sedulous
Date: June 15, 2010 at 10:12 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/martin-kampman-vs-dan-hardy.26784/

I don't think Kampmann will be able to take him down and while Kampmann might be able to win the stand up on point, Hardy will likely knock him silly within three rounds. I'd say Hardy but TKO within two rounds.

 

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Originally posted by: mmajay
Date: June 15, 2010 at 11:19 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/martin-kampman-vs-dan-hardy.26784/

Everytime Kampmann starts getting some hype behind him he dissapoints. We'll see what happens in his next bout.
Paul Daley made him look like a TUF reject, then he looks like GSP against Thiago. I can't figure this dude out.

 

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Originally posted by: quickthought
Date: June 15, 2010 at 07:47 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/martin-kampman-vs-dan-hardy.26784/

Paul Daley made him look like a TUF reject
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O not really i mean Kampann hit Daley with as many big shots as Daley hit him with its just Daley hits harder and Kampann came in with a completely wrong game plan, imo he for a while on the feet was holding his own.

 

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Originally posted by: DrKillByDeath87
Date: June 15, 2010 at 08:10 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/martin-kampman-vs-dan-hardy.26784/

Kampmann is better than Hardy at every aspect.. except for power in the stand up.. I cant believe the polls are in favour of Hardy.. Hardy is way too overated..

 

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Originally posted by: Paul_UK
Date: June 16, 2010 at 07:34 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/martin-kampman-vs-dan-hardy.26784/

3rdStrike said:
Kampmann is better than Hardy at every aspect.. except for power in the stand up.. I cant believe the polls are in favour of Hardy.. Hardy is way too overated..
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How is Hardy over-rated when all you Yanks say how bad he is??
Compare his face after his fight to that of Fitch & Alves when they faced GSP. He took much less damage than them, barely any actually. Now that's impressive. If anything, his ground game is hugely under-rated.

 

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Originally posted by: Paul_UK
Date: June 16, 2010 at 07:35 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/martin-kampman-vs-dan-hardy.26784/

Oh, and Hardy takes this, 2nd or 3rd round TKO.

 

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Originally posted by: mabrown45
Date: June 16, 2010 at 08:17 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/martin-kampman-vs-dan-hardy.26784/

YPG said:
3rdStrike said:
Kampmann is better than Hardy at every aspect.. except for power in the stand up.. I cant believe the polls are in favour of Hardy.. Hardy is way too overated..
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How is Hardy over-rated when all you Yanks say how bad he is??
Compare his face after his fight to that of Fitch & Alves when they faced GSP. He took much less damage than them, barely any actually. Now that's impressive. If anything, his ground game is hugely under-rated.
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How Hardy looked after the GSP fight means nothing considering GSP spent the majority of the 5 rounds attempting subs rather than the alves or Fitch where he just GnP/standup.
I think I will still give Hardy this fight because if he is any kind of an athlete he would be training his wrestling non stop.
My face looks great too after a failed armbar.

 

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Originally posted by: Paul_UK
Date: June 16, 2010 at 09:10 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/martin-kampman-vs-dan-hardy.26784/

mabrown45 said:
YPG said:
3rdStrike said:
Kampmann is better than Hardy at every aspect.. except for power in the stand up.. I cant believe the polls are in favour of Hardy.. Hardy is way too overated..
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How is Hardy over-rated when all you Yanks say how bad he is??
Compare his face after his fight to that of Fitch & Alves when they faced GSP. He took much less damage than them, barely any actually. Now that's impressive. If anything, his ground game is hugely under-rated.
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How Hardy looked after the GSP fight means nothing considering GSP spent the majority of the 5 rounds attempting subs rather than the alves or Fitch where he just GnP/standup.
I think I will still give Hardy this fight because if he is any kind of an athlete he would be training his wrestling non stop.
My face looks great too after a failed armbar.
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GSP wasn't just going for subs, he was doing some GnP aswell. Also, if GSP was only going for subs, 2 attempt in 5 rounds (5 rounds I'll admit he dominated) is pretty poor. I just think Hardy isn't given the respect he's due for his ground game.
Also, Hardy's been in America working on his wrestling for at least 2 months I think now. He's realised the massive hole in his game & is working on it with good American wrestling coaches (not the s--- British ones we have here).

 

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Originally posted by: MDH
Date: June 16, 2010 at 09:45 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/martin-kampman-vs-dan-hardy.26784/

It all depends. If we see the Kampman who thinks he can stand with anybody he'll end up getting KOed. If we see the Kampman we saw last week who mixed it up very nicely Kampman will get the decision victory because Hardy has no answers on the ground. If Kampman can control Thiago on the ground he can most certainly control Hardy.

 

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Originally posted by: Sedulous
Date: June 16, 2010 at 10:03 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/martin-kampman-vs-dan-hardy.26784/

YPG said:
GSP wasn't just going for subs, he was doing some GnP aswell. Also, if GSP was only going for subs, 2 attempt in 5 rounds (5 rounds I'll admit he dominated) is pretty poor. I just think Hardy isn't given the respect he's due for his ground game.
Also, Hardy's been in America working on his wrestling for at least 2 months I think now. He's realised the massive hole in his game & is working on it with good American wrestling coaches (not the s**t British ones we have here).
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I agree that Hardy would beat Kampmann but lets not act like Hardy is better than he is. He didn't fair the way he did against GSP because of anything he did. It was mostly because of what he didn't do and that was tap. Secondly, it was because of what GSP didn't do and that was execute his multiple submission attempts (way more than 2, not sure what fight you watched) correctly and GnP more. (he did a little but not much)

 

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Originally posted by: ResoluteProtector
Date: June 16, 2010 at 11:02 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/martin-kampman-vs-dan-hardy.26784/

Hardy is tough, difficult to argue against that. But how tough is he? I think the only thing that stopped St. Pierre from finishing Hardy, was not having implimented his submission attempts into the Octagon lately. He he had went for more sub attempts in previous fights, vice just in training, I don't think Hardy survives; at least not in one piece.

 

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Originally posted by: icemanfan4life
Date: June 16, 2010 at 11:02 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/martin-kampman-vs-dan-hardy.26784/

The technical striker vs the brawler

 

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Originally posted by: Sedulous
Date: June 16, 2010 at 12:44 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/martin-kampman-vs-dan-hardy.26784/

ResoluteProtector said:
Hardy is tough, difficult to argue against that. But how tough is he? I think the only thing that stopped St. Pierre from finishing Hardy, was not having implimented his submission attempts into the Octagon lately. He he had went for more sub attempts in previous fights, vice just in training, I don't think Hardy survives; at least not in one piece.
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I think in a rematch GSP would break Hardy's arm in the first round.

 

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Originally posted by: ResoluteProtector
Date: June 16, 2010 at 12:50 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/martin-kampman-vs-dan-hardy.26784/

Sedulous said:
ResoluteProtector said:
Hardy is tough, difficult to argue against that. But how tough is he? I think the only thing that stopped St. Pierre from finishing Hardy, was not having implimented his submission attempts into the Octagon lately. He he had went for more sub attempts in previous fights, vice just in training, I don't think Hardy survives; at least not in one piece.
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I think in a rematch GSP would break Hardy's arm in the first round.
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Agreed. I think he at the very least attempts to sub Koscheck once. And I think that in ring experience was the only thing lacking.

 

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Originally posted by: DrKillByDeath87
Date: June 16, 2010 at 01:04 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/martin-kampman-vs-dan-hardy.26784/

YPG said:
3rdStrike said:
Kampmann is better than Hardy at every aspect.. except for power in the stand up.. I cant believe the polls are in favour of Hardy.. Hardy is way too overated..
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How is Hardy over-rated when all you Yanks say how bad he is??
Compare his face after his fight to that of Fitch & Alves when they faced GSP. He took much less damage than them, barely any actually. Now that's impressive. If anything, his ground game is hugely under-rated.
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Yeah look as all these comments in here about how "bad" Hardy is.. Seriously people have this guy ranked in the top 5 WWs.. TOP 5?!? This is insane to me.. Thiago is much better than Hardy and he got dominated by Kampmann.. Sure Hardy can KO people.. (Even tho 2 of his Ws in the octagon are by SD and only 1 is a TKO).. but Kampmanns got power too.. I dont know.. Im starting to think Im the crazy one here..