Matt Brown vs. Ben Askren

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: Galgorian
Date: January 12, 2015 at 01:48 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/matt-brown-vs-ben-askren.65122/

This might be the perfect time for the UFC to sign Ben Askren and have him fight Matt Brown at UFC Fight Night 60 on February 14th. Matt Brown was suppose to fight Tarec Saffiedine on this card. Saffiedine is out with an injury, leaving Matt Brown without an opponent.
Matt Brown is currently ranked #6 in the official UFC Welterweight rankings. Sherdog has Matt Brown at #7 and Ben Askren at #8.
Looking at the rest of the division:
- Champion Robbie Lawler is scheduled to fight #1 ranked Johny Hendricks in the trilogy fight.
- #2 Rory MacDonald is rumored to be booked against #5 Hector Lombard.
- #3 Tyron Woodley is matched against #7
Kelvin Gastelum.
- #4 Carlos Condit is sidelined with an injury.
- Unknowns: #8 Demian Maia pulled out of his last fight on Aug. 23 / 2014 due to a staph infection. No word on his return since. #10 Dong Hyun Kim hasn't been heard from since his defeat to Tyron Woodley.
That rounds out the top 10. If the UFC were to make this fight happen, who wins?

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: bausch66
Date: January 12, 2015 at 02:01 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/matt-brown-vs-ben-askren.65122/

I would agree that it's a cool matchup. But I highly doubt Dana swallows his pride and signs the guy at any point in time. Dana has too much of an ego to appear weak and submit to Askren.
Also Askren has 4 fights left on his contract with ONE FC and he's making good money there.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: Sapper
Date: January 12, 2015 at 02:06 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/matt-brown-vs-ben-askren.65122/

There is no chance UFC buys Ben out of OneFC.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: redstar
Date: January 12, 2015 at 03:14 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/matt-brown-vs-ben-askren.65122/

If it DID happen, I would watch.
I consider myself a Matt Brown fan.
Having said that & all other feud/contract issues aside;
Ben Askern is probably the most boring fighter I've ever seen, who held an MMA strap.
Watching him fight is like watching my accountant do my taxes.
Sure, there is some technical proficiency & creativity being exhibited, but it is boring as f---.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: BadassCoffee
Date: January 12, 2015 at 03:17 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/matt-brown-vs-ben-askren.65122/

bausch66 said:
I would agree that it's a cool matchup. But I highly doubt Dana swallows his pride and signs the guy at any point in time. Dana has too much of an ego to appear weak and submit to Askren.
Also Askren has 4 fights left on his contract with ONE FC and he's making good money there.
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He took rampage back, he took Tito back before, he took Nick Diaz and listened to his demands getting him a new contract with a huge fight against Anderson Silva.
Dana cares more about money than swallowing pride. If he sees that Askren can make him money then he'd let everything he said slide.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: bausch66
Date: January 12, 2015 at 04:18 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/matt-brown-vs-ben-askren.65122/

BadassCoffee said:
He took rampage back, he took Tito back before, he took Nick Diaz and listened to his demands getting him a new contract with a huge fight against Anderson Silva.
Dana cares more about money than swallowing pride. If he sees that Askren can make him money then he'd let everything he said slide.
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That's true. But I can't see Askren being worth the buy out price anytime soon. We definitely know who he is, but to any fan who doesn't pay attention to other organizations he'll just be another prospect. I think Askren would have to take a pay cut from what he gets at One FC

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: bausch66
Date: January 12, 2015 at 04:23 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/matt-brown-vs-ben-askren.65122/

BadassCoffee said:
He took rampage back, he took Tito back before, he took Nick Diaz and listened to his demands getting him a new contract with a huge fight against Anderson Silva.
Dana cares more about money than swallowing pride. If he sees that Askren can make him money then he'd let everything he said slide.
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He gets paid 50k to show and 50k to win over there. To reference other WW's. Rory Mac, Woodley, Matt Brown, and Mike Pyle all have the same pay. I don't think Askren is worth the money or the ego hit to Dana at that price.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: BadassCoffee
Date: January 12, 2015 at 04:24 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/matt-brown-vs-ben-askren.65122/

Yeah I get that. I can see Dana not taking him because he doesn't see the value, and can possibly end up with a boring *** champ. (Extremely unlikely askren can win the title though). But I was just saying the reason him not signing wouldn't be because of a grudge, just not worth it.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: m-stray
Date: January 12, 2015 at 04:33 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/matt-brown-vs-ben-askren.65122/

Askren would f--- Matt Brown in the street.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: darcebandit
Date: January 12, 2015 at 07:02 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/matt-brown-vs-ben-askren.65122/

Askren isn't boring, stop saying this

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: bdmcleod
Date: January 12, 2015 at 07:59 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/matt-brown-vs-ben-askren.65122/

darcebandit said:
Askren isn't boring, stop saying this
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He's finished his last 4 fights and people act like he's Jon Fitch.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: m-stray
Date: January 12, 2015 at 08:20 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/matt-brown-vs-ben-askren.65122/

bausch66 said:
He gets paid 50k to show and 50k to win over there. To reference other WW's. Rory Mac, Woodley, Matt Brown, and Mike Pyle all have the same pay. I don't think Askren is worth the money or the ego hit to Dana at that price.
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So Askren isn't worth Mike Pyle money?

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: MoJoJo
Date: January 12, 2015 at 08:43 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/matt-brown-vs-ben-askren.65122/

bdmcleod said:
He's finished his last 4 fights and people act like he's Jon Fitch.
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In all fairness, he should have finished those guys. He is a top 10 WW fighting guys that are maybe sniffing the top 30-40 of the class.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: Sedulous
Date: January 12, 2015 at 08:50 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/matt-brown-vs-ben-askren.65122/

m-stray said:
So Askren isn't worth Mike Pyle money?
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He might be, but I don't think he's asking for the same money he's getting at ONEFC. I think he's asking for a lot more because he thinks the UFC should pay more than ONEFC. From what it sounds like when you sort through the BS back and forth, Askren wants a big payday to sign with the UFC. And while DW is willing to sign him, it's not at the price that's being demanded.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: Galgorian
Date: January 12, 2015 at 09:55 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/matt-brown-vs-ben-askren.65122/

No one has come out publicly and said this, but I suspect everything is not sunshine and rainbows over at ONE FC. Askren is the ONE FC Welterweight champion and took virtually no damage in his last fight. With that being said, he hasn't fought since August, and has nothing upcoming booked. He must have some sort of out in his contract stating that if the promotion can't find him a fight he can leave. How is he suppose to make a living this way?

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: Spud
Date: January 12, 2015 at 09:55 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/matt-brown-vs-ben-askren.65122/

Askren would ragdoll Brown. He's a far better grappler & he's not someone who's going to stand with someone just because they're improving their striking.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: bausch66
Date: January 12, 2015 at 11:22 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/matt-brown-vs-ben-askren.65122/

m-stray said:
So Askren isn't worth Mike Pyle money?
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But Mike Pyle is a vet who's being paid with the likes of Rory, Woodley and Condit.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: demeter
Date: January 12, 2015 at 11:33 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/matt-brown-vs-ben-askren.65122/

bdmcleod said:
He's finished his last 4 fights and people act like he's Jon Fitch.
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I think the last time I brought this up it was countered with "Yes but he doesn't finish them in exciting fashion".

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: mmablaster
Date: January 12, 2015 at 11:52 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/matt-brown-vs-ben-askren.65122/

bausch66 said:
I would agree that it's a cool matchup. But I highly doubt Dana swallows his pride and signs the guy at any point in time. Dana has too much of an ego to appear weak and submit to Askren.
Also Askren has 4 fights left on his contract with ONE FC and he's making good money there.
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Pretty sure it has a duration on the contract as well, maybe two years.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: Magson13
Date: January 12, 2015 at 11:56 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/matt-brown-vs-ben-askren.65122/

That would be the worst Valentine's Day ever.