MMA still being labled as "Barbarism"

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: unassail08
Date: October 25, 2010 at 06:12 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/mma-still-being-labled-as-barbarism.31672/

ON ESPN, Pardon The Interruption, Both Michael Wilbon and Tony Kornheiser said MMA's appeal is because of its bloody violent nature.
Gee doesn't that sound a little familiar to the appeal of the United States most popular sport, American Football? I like these guys 90% of the time, but when they talk MMA they don't know what the hell they are talking about. They grew up on boxing and if its not boxing in Combat Sports, then its "Barbaric."
Do they even watch the sport?????????????????
I will request a stun gun tomorrow on Junkie radio for these crusty ol Sports Journalists.
As much as I love the show, I cannot wait for them to retire, along with other dinosaurs in Sports Journalism.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: ModestMMA
Date: October 25, 2010 at 06:15 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/mma-still-being-labled-as-barbarism.31672/

Well said!
I too cannot wait until the last remnants of the old guard are swept away.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: Sedulous
Date: October 25, 2010 at 06:19 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/mma-still-being-labled-as-barbarism.31672/

ModestMMA said:
Well said!
I too cannot wait until the last remnants of the old guard are swept away.
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It's on it's way out. At this point I think it's a lot more unpopular to bash MMA than it is to praise it. It's a violent sport, no doubt about that. But it's way too big and lucrative to be shunned any longer.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: Jak
Date: October 25, 2010 at 06:42 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/mma-still-being-labled-as-barbarism.31672/

I consider barbequeing to be barbarian too, just a fire and a dead animal(or a dead corn of cob of vegetarians) but i like that too.
I like bloody violence as well.
I stopped watching all those shows because they've become pretty irrelevant.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: illy-d
Date: October 25, 2010 at 06:59 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/mma-still-being-labled-as-barbarism.31672/

I don't get people that say it's only popular because of it's violent nature - and then turn around and say that Boxing is the "Sweet Science".
I like MMA for a variety of reasons and the 'violence' is not one of them. I accept that violence is a part of it (it is a fight after all), but It's not why I tune in.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: Noodles4-LJ4
Date: October 25, 2010 at 07:24 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/mma-still-being-labled-as-barbarism.31672/

unassail08 said:
ON ESPN, Pardon The Interruption, Both Michael Wilbon and Tony Kornheiser said MMA's appeal is because of its bloody violent nature.
Gee doesn't that sound a little familiar to the appeal of the United States most popular sport, American Football? I like these guys 90% of the time, but when they talk MMA they don't know what the hell they are talking about. They grew up on boxing and if its not boxing in Combat Sports, then its "Barbaric."
Do they even watch the sport?????????????????
I will request a stun gun tomorrow on Junkie radio for these crusty ol Sports Journalists.
As much as I love the show, I cannot wait for them to retire, along with other dinosaurs in Sports Journalism.
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This is nothing new PTI has never liked MMA & I don't care if the do or don't I love their show and I disagree and agree with alot with what they say. I dislike ESPN coving MMA they don't do a very good job of it, none of the their SportCenter analysts do a go job talking about it and comes of bad.
If you got excited when Condit KO'ed Hardy and Cain smashed Brock then is shouldn't matter what other people say. Love MMA & K-1 and I will never apologizes for it. The sport is Violent we all love it for that reason is that the only reason no but its a big reason, if KOs and Subs stop nobody would watch thats one of the big reason why boxing stop being fun no KO's/finishes.
You want them to retire because they don't like MMA? That's dumb and your are overacting, they are to good for them to retire over MMA. What if ESPN pust two other guys who don't like MMA or just don't watch it? Or they bash some other sport you like/team. Getting raid of them isn't the answer.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: cobra_punch
Date: October 25, 2010 at 08:09 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/mma-still-being-labled-as-barbarism.31672/

Both Michael Wilbon and Tony Kornheiser are being labeled as h0mo's. What's more exciting, watching spoiled millionaires cry to the referee about every foul called on them (basketball), or watching two warrriors go toe to toe in a cage?

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: clockwerk
Date: October 25, 2010 at 08:18 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/mma-still-being-labled-as-barbarism.31672/

His last name is "Kornheiser"? LOL. That's unfortunate.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: TheLethalLefty
Date: October 25, 2010 at 08:22 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/mma-still-being-labled-as-barbarism.31672/

PTI is one of my favorite shows to watch and I think both hosts do a fantastic job every day and are very knowledgeable...except for when it comes to MMA...its sad but they have made up their minds already, with out ever really giving MMA a chance, and have decided to hate the sport.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: CupcakeKatie
Date: October 25, 2010 at 08:23 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/mma-still-being-labled-as-barbarism.31672/

Kornheiser and Wilbon bother me a lot as it relates to MMA. They admitted that they do not regularly watch any events and yet they speak about it in their show as if they are actually educated on the subject. Same goes for most of the Around the Horn crew.
This may be an issue of an age gap: most of these writers / reporters are well over the standard MMA demographic. So there is hope that the media attitude will change over time.
I do, however, find it fascinating and slightly hypocritical that they refer to MMA as barbaric and yet they cover boxing without using the same label.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: unassail08
Date: October 25, 2010 at 10:26 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/mma-still-being-labled-as-barbarism.31672/

Noodles4-LJ4 said:
unassail08 said:
ON ESPN, Pardon The Interruption, Both Michael Wilbon and Tony Kornheiser said MMA's appeal is because of its bloody violent nature.
Gee doesn't that sound a little familiar to the appeal of the United States most popular sport, American Football? I like these guys 90% of the time, but when they talk MMA they don't know what the hell they are talking about. They grew up on boxing and if its not boxing in Combat Sports, then its "Barbaric."
Do they even watch the sport?????????????????
I will request a stun gun tomorrow on Junkie radio for these crusty ol Sports Journalists.
As much as I love the show, I cannot wait for them to retire, along with other dinosaurs in Sports Journalism.
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This is nothing new PTI has never liked MMA & I don't care if the do or don't I love their show and I disagree and agree with alot with what they say. I dislike ESPN coving MMA they don't do a very good job of it, none of the their SportCenter analysts do a go job talking about it and comes of bad.
If you got excited when Condit KO'ed Hardy and Cain smashed Brock then is shouldn't matter what other people say. Love MMA & K-1 and I will never apologizes for it. The sport is Violent we all love it for that reason is that the only reason no but its a big reason, if KOs and Subs stop nobody would watch thats one of the big reason why boxing stop being fun no KO's/finishes.
You want them to retire because they don't like MMA? That's dumb and your are overacting, they are to good for them to retire over MMA. What if ESPN pust two other guys who don't like MMA or just don't watch it? Or they bash some other sport you like/team. Getting raid of them isn't the answer.
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It has nothing to do with me wanting them to retire, it was supposed to be tongue-in-cheek way. I just wish since they talk so much about it, they would actually have an open mind about it. I think they are good, but I think, they are dated. As in they are not with the current times. There's nothing wrong with it, but there comes a time when there era of reporters need to evolve or retire. Just my opinion. I think ESPN, while they don't do the best job covering MMA, they are covering it which even 5 years ago was not thought of. It will continue to get better.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: Noodles4-LJ4
Date: October 25, 2010 at 10:59 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/mma-still-being-labled-as-barbarism.31672/

cobra_punch said:
Both Michael Wilbon and Tony Kornheiser are being labeled as h0mo's. What's more exciting, watching spoiled millionaires cry to the referee about every foul called on them (basketball), or watching two warrriors go toe to toe in a cage?
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Both! :lol: I love Football more then MMA
if my 49ers are playing their is noway in hell I miss it over any MMA card, s--- I miss Bellator over Grey's Anatomy. That maybe stack religulous to most MMA fan.
CupcakeKatie said:
It has nothing to do with me wanting them to retire, it was supposed to be tongue-in-cheek way. I just wish since they talk so much about it, they would actually have an open mind about it. I think they are good, but I think, they are dated. As in they are not with the current times. There's nothing wrong with it, but there comes a time when there era of reporters need to evolve or retire. Just my opinion. I think ESPN, while they don't do the best job covering MMA, they are covering it which even 5 years ago was not thought of. It will continue to get better.
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I get you with them being open mind, but they just don't like MMA so you want them to evolve and talk about something they don't like?
Everybody not going to like MMA no matter how many great fights/fighters their are, people just don't that MMA is brutal sports to watch. And again what happens if/when they retire who says ESPN keeps the show going and if they do what if they put two guys who still don't like MMA what then?

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: unassail08
Date: October 25, 2010 at 11:22 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/mma-still-being-labled-as-barbarism.31672/

I just want them to give MMA a fair look.
I mean, I believe football, is a more violent sport. They can enjoy the violent aspects of football but not appreciate the same aspects of MMA.
Double Standard.
But oh well.
Just food for thought.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: Noodles4-LJ4
Date: October 26, 2010 at 02:36 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/mma-still-being-labled-as-barbarism.31672/

unassail08 said:
I just want them to give MMA a fair look.
I mean, I believe football, is a more violent sport. They can enjoy the violent aspects of football but not appreciate the same aspects of MMA.
Double Standard.
But oh well.
Just food for thought.
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Football is violent yes, but its not MMA come on man :!: Broken arms, Big cuts, Blood that covers fighters and Kicks to the face. Two guys punching each other in the face that's the only thing that we as fight fans boxing or MMA hold that fighting one on one with another person is something everybody can't do even football players.
No one ever ask a football player "Why do you want to get punch in the face for a living?" In other words no one question a football player but they do with MMA fighters or Boxers.