MMA UFC

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: erica00
Date: February 11, 2009 at 10:43 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/mma-ufc.10402/

I love the UFC but I think people and I would like to see fresh meat (fighters). It's like I can tell who is going to win the fight without watching it. Most of my friends also say you right how you know that but I don't expose how I know but I do. You have a lot of good fighters that what a chance but it's like the UFC is always putting the same fighters on. You have many good fighters around the world and that have tried to get in the UFC but no response. They are still consistent in fighting with other organizations until a door open up for them like the UFC, StikeForce etc. I think they need to bring in fresh meat and a different fight cards. It's like some of the fighters in the UFC are friends who put there friends in the door but that sad part is that some aren't good fighters at all.
Erica Williams :?:

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: briN
Date: February 11, 2009 at 10:52 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/mma-ufc.10402/

erica00 said:
I love the UFC but I think people and I would like to see fresh meat (fighters). It's like I can tell who is going to win the fight without watching it. Most of my friends also say you right how you know that but I don't expose how I know but I do. You have a lot of good fighters that what a chance but it's like the UFC is always putting the same fighters on. You have many good fighters around the world and that have tried to get in the UFC but no response. They are still consistent in fighting with other organizations until a door open up for them like the UFC, StikeForce etc. I think they need to bring in fresh meat and a different fight cards.
Erica Williams :?:
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all the fresh meat fighters are getting wrecked by each other on the under cards.... once one of them is consistent for a while... like thiago silva WAS and how Anthony Johnson IS then they will get thrown into the mix
for people in other organizations... its either they dont like dana, dana doesnt like them, or problems with their contracts (either with the UFC or other organizations)
MMA is still growing there are alot of fighters out there but not many that are as good as the top guys in the UFC are... partly because they rnt gettin paid to spend all day in a gym training....

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: erica00
Date: February 11, 2009 at 11:08 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/mma-ufc.10402/

You are right to some point but you have many good fighters who spend there time in the gym all day to. It's like with Slivia most people know he's going to win or A. Slivia. He's tall and he knows how to use his height to defeat his opponent but like I was saying before, you already know he's going to win because it's like his opponents are weak. It's no compatiton in the UFC really. I'm not saying UFC doesn't have great fighters because they do. I'm just saying some people get tied of seeing the same fighters with these weak opponents. They need fresh meat. You have alot of great fighters out there who train as hard and everyday and that is consistent and looking for that chance to. Some fighters in the UFC don't deserve to be there and most people know that to.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: briN
Date: February 11, 2009 at 11:26 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/mma-ufc.10402/

erica00 said:
You are right to some point but you have many good fighters who spend there time in the gym all day to. It's like with Slivia most people know he's going to win or A. Slivia. He's tall and he knows how to use his height to defeat his opponent but like I was saying before, you already know he's going to win because it's like his opponents are weak. It's no compatiton in the UFC really. I'm not saying UFC doesn't have great fighters because they do. I'm just saying some people get tied of seeing the same fighters with these weak opponents. They need fresh meat. You have alot of great fighters out there who train as hard and everyday and that is consistent and looking for that chance to. Some fighters in the UFC don't deserve to be there and most people know that to.
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they are champions for a reason dont forget
and i believe you mean anderson silva when you say slivia... and if thats the case... its not alwasy easy to say hes gonna win
i thought hendo would beat him (which he wouldve i think if he didnt get away from his game plan)
and cote was doin pretty good for being such a huge underdog
silvas ground game is his weak point yes he has a BJJ black belt but it hasnt helped him much from what ive seen... if hes so good why could lutter mount him... i know lutter is a black belt as well but he could barely stand up after dropping that much weight so ud think it be alot easier to keep him off you... if silva was that good....

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: erica00
Date: February 11, 2009 at 11:33 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/mma-ufc.10402/

Excuse my tyoing error is the first two post.
Now, that's your opinion you know but like I said, "you have many great fighters who train everyday and that are consistent and the UFC needs to bring in fresh meat that is willing to go toe to toe." and not these weak opponents they bringing in. Again, the UFC needs a brand new face that's all I'm saying and someone that is willing to move up in there divsion or outside. I'm just saying that some of the UFC fighers doesn't deserved to be there.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: lostlineman
Date: February 11, 2009 at 11:43 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/mma-ufc.10402/

erica00 said:
Excuse my tyoing error is the first two post.
Now, that's your opinion you know but like I said, "you have many great fighters who train everyday and that are consistent and the UFC needs to bring in fresh meat that is willing to go toe to toe." and not these weak opponents they bringing in. Again, the UFC needs a brand new face that's all I'm saying and someone that is willing to move up in there divsion or outside. I'm just saying that some of the UFC fighers doesn't deserved to be there.
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who exactly doesnt deserve to be there.. the ufc champs are the best in the world or at least arguably the best in their weight class. the best fighter in the best org. is that for a reason...... they are better than everyone else so therefore they will not get challenged as much but that is why ya watch the fight to see if the underdog can somehow find a way to win.. lots of fighters seem unbeatable til they get ktfo

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: osubuckeye4
Date: February 11, 2009 at 11:52 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/mma-ufc.10402/

erica00 said:
Excuse my tyoing error is the first two post.
Now, that's your opinion you know but like I said, "you have many great fighters who train everyday and that are consistent and the UFC needs to bring in fresh meat that is willing to go toe to toe." and not these weak opponents they bringing in. Again, the UFC needs a brand new face that's all I'm saying and someone that is willing to move up in there divsion or outside. I'm just saying that some of the UFC fighers doesn't deserved to be there.
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I guess I don't really understand the point you're trying to make. The UFC has brought in tons of new faces.
Brock Lesnar is a new face.
Rashad Evans is a guy who started out on the undercard and has moved all the way up to the LHW champion.
Guys like Amir Sodollah (one day he'll be healthy) and C.B. Dollaway and Mac Danzig and Efrain Escuedo from TUF are new faces who are getting TV time.
The UFC constantly brings in new faces from outside of TUF as well. With the WEC folding you have guys like Cantwell and Rosholt moving up. After the IFL folded you have the Miller's and Rory Markham and a host of others.
The UFC is also constantly getting rid of guys who lose. Rich Clementi and Luigi Fiorivanti both just got dropped after their latest losses. You had Jorge Gurgel get dropped after a losing steak. Heck, Werdum was gone after a subpar performance against Dos Santos.
I think the UFC does a pretty good job with bringing in and marketing new guys and also kicking out guys who aren't putting on good fights or who lose often.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: wolf
Date: February 11, 2009 at 12:43 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/mma-ufc.10402/

osubuckeye4 said:
erica00 said:
Excuse my tyoing error is the first two post.
Now, that's your opinion you know but like I said, "you have many great fighters who train everyday and that are consistent and the UFC needs to bring in fresh meat that is willing to go toe to toe." and not these weak opponents they bringing in. Again, the UFC needs a brand new face that's all I'm saying and someone that is willing to move up in there divsion or outside. I'm just saying that some of the UFC fighers doesn't deserved to be there.
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I guess I don't really understand the point you're trying to make. The UFC has brought in tons of new faces.
Brock Lesnar is a new face.
Rashad Evans is a guy who started out on the undercard and has moved all the way up to the LHW champion.
Guys like Amir Sodollah (one day he'll be healthy) and C.B. Dollaway and Mac Danzig and Efrain Escuedo from TUF are new faces who are getting TV time.
The UFC constantly brings in new faces from outside of TUF as well. With the WEC folding you have guys like Cantwell and Rosholt moving up. After the IFL folded you have the Miller's and Rory Markham and a host of others.
The UFC is also constantly getting rid of guys who lose. Rich Clementi and Luigi Fiorivanti both just got dropped after their latest losses. You had Jorge Gurgel get dropped after a losing steak. Heck, Werdum was gone after a subpar performance against Dos Santos.
I think the UFC does a pretty good job with bringing in and marketing new guys and also kicking out guys who aren't putting on good fights or who lose often.
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Ya that's exactly what I was thinking. The UFC brings in more talent than Any other org in the world. You want to talk about the same faces all the time talk about Affliction lol. The UFC brings in new faces on every single card. They either throw a guy from TUF on there, or there givine 2-4 guys their pro or UFC debuts. Just on the last card they had Veach, rosholt, and some other new talent I'd never seen before on the UFC.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: briN
Date: February 11, 2009 at 01:04 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/mma-ufc.10402/

osubuckeye4 said:
I think the UFC does a pretty good job with bringing in and marketing new guys and also
kicking out guys who aren't putting on good fights
or who lose often.
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if that part were true clay guida would be gone by now

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: mmablaster
Date: February 11, 2009 at 01:20 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/mma-ufc.10402/

Fresh meat are on display in most local/regional promotions. If you haven't gone to a small show, I would recommend checking one out. There was a local mma thread in the OT section at one point.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: SheerTerror
Date: February 11, 2009 at 01:23 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/mma-ufc.10402/

Erica, if you are good at picking the winners you should check out the JFC and go head to head with the best in the world

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: erica00
Date: February 11, 2009 at 01:54 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/mma-ufc.10402/

I will have to check that out and maybe go head to head with the best in the world. Like, I said in my post this is my point of view.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: Sedulous
Date: February 11, 2009 at 02:31 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/mma-ufc.10402/

Ya it's true there are a lot of new guys. Fight nights and undercards have a lot of new guys. There is always a couple of fights on the card that I have actually look up the guys to see who they are and what there background is in order to determine a winner. I agree that they need better opponents for A. Silva though but they aren't going to get that with "fresh meat", there are better more challenging contenders in the UFC right now than Leites.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: Mas-
Date: February 11, 2009 at 03:10 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/mma-ufc.10402/

erica00 said:
I love the UFC but I think people and I would like to see fresh meat (fighters). It's like I can tell who is going to win the fight without watching it. Most of my friends also say you right how you know that but I don't expose how I know but I do. You have a lot of good fighters that what a chance but it's like the UFC is always putting the same fighters on. You have many good fighters around the world and that have tried to get in the UFC but no response. They are still consistent in fighting with other organizations until a door open up for them like the UFC, StikeForce etc. I think they need to bring in fresh meat and a different fight cards. It's like some of the fighters in the UFC are friends who put there friends in the door but that sad part is that some aren't good fighters at all.
Erica Williams :?:
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Okay i am with you on this but
PLEASE PLEASE
stop calling it
Fresh meat
that sounds so G*Y....................Fresh Blood is the right term.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: avonbarksdale
Date: February 11, 2009 at 03:43 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/mma-ufc.10402/

You say you can predict the outcome of every fight? You want to try and back that claim up in the JFC?

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: avonbarksdale
Date: February 11, 2009 at 03:44 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/mma-ufc.10402/

SheerTerror said:
Erica, if you are good at picking the winners you should check out the JFC and go head to head with the best in the world
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Oh, this fella already pulled the JFC card.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: Whizzer
Date: February 11, 2009 at 07:36 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/mma-ufc.10402/

There is no way I am dropping $50 to watch a PPV that features "fresh blood", or whatever you want to call it. I don't mind a debut or two if the fighter has been kicking butt in other promos, but don't throw some 1-0 or 2-0 fighter on a PPV card because I won't pay to view.
I think I represent a huge majority of fans saying this, and the UFC is all about making fans happy, because happy fans = big $$$. Put together a card with the main event featuring Danny Abbadi vs Gabe Rudiger and see how many PPVs you sell.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: JHustle
Date: February 13, 2009 at 03:27 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/mma-ufc.10402/

erica00 said:
You are right to some point but you have many good fighters who spend there time in the gym all day to. It's like with Slivia most people know he's going to win or A. Slivia. .
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What?

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: bjj_rage
Date: February 13, 2009 at 03:37 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/mma-ufc.10402/

lostlineman said:
erica00 said:
Excuse my tyoing error is the first two post.
Now, that's your opinion you know but like I said, "you have many great fighters who train everyday and that are consistent and the UFC needs to bring in fresh meat that is willing to go toe to toe." and not these weak opponents they bringing in. Again, the UFC needs a brand new face that's all I'm saying and someone that is willing to move up in there divsion or outside. I'm just saying that some of the UFC fighers doesn't deserved to be there.
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who exactly doesnt deserve to be there.. the ufc champs are the best in the world or at least arguably the best in their weight class. the best fighter in the best org. is that for a reason...... they are better than everyone else so therefore they will not get challenged as much but that is why ya watch the fight to see if the underdog can somehow find a way to win.. lots of fighters seem unbeatable til they get ktfo
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Not true.
In the UFC, overall HWd, you dont need to be the best to sell get the title, or at least the title shot. Just need to sell tickets, if not, you can ask Brock, plus he's not the best in his weight class in the world, too bad there is a guy named fedor.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: kobeVSraja
Date: February 13, 2009 at 04:00 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/mma-ufc.10402/

bjj_rage said:
lostlineman said:
erica00 said:
Excuse my tyoing error is the first two post.
Now, that's your opinion you know but like I said, "you have many great fighters who train everyday and that are consistent and the UFC needs to bring in fresh meat that is willing to go toe to toe." and not these weak opponents they bringing in. Again, the UFC needs a brand new face that's all I'm saying and someone that is willing to move up in there divsion or outside. I'm just saying that some of the UFC fighers doesn't deserved to be there.
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who exactly doesnt deserve to be there.. the ufc champs are the best in the world or at least arguably the best in their weight class. the best fighter in the best org. is that for a reason...... they are better than everyone else so therefore they will not get challenged as much but that is why ya watch the fight to see if the underdog can somehow find a way to win.. lots of fighters seem unbeatable til they get ktfo
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Not true.
In the UFC, overall HWd, you dont need to be the best to sell get the title, or at least the title shot. Just need to sell tickets, if not, you can ask Brock, plus he's not the best in his weight class in the world, too bad there is a guy named fedor.
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HW is the only exception...