Mousasi underated???

Originally posted by: Johnny419
Date: March 25, 2009 at 04:32 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/mousasi-underated.11918/
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mmablaster said:
Submitting Manouef is easy, getting him to the ground without getting KTFO is hard. Unless of course Manhouef slams you and takes the fight to the ground.
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So true, Manhoef is a beast on the feet but when he is on his back it's bad news for him. I hope he steps up his ground game a lot.
 
Originally posted by: bjj_rage
Date: March 25, 2009 at 04:32 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/mousasi-underated.11918/
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Jak said:
bjj_rage said:
why do you think subing Manhoef is overrated??? Manhoef is a hell of a fighter, it does some mistakes sometimes, that normally cost him fights
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Because Manhoef is a stand up fighter, and in the last few years all his losses are from submissions, which to me, is why he went back to K-1. He doesn't have submission defense. If Mousasi, a guy who wants to box, stood and traded and won by Ko, then i wouldn't say sh*t.
Don't get angry that i think Manhoef is one dimensional when it comes to MMA, it's just what i think. I love Manhoef's fighting style, but i like him better in K-1, when guys have to try to knock him out.
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dude, this is mma, not k-1, Mousasi didnt have to prove anything by trying to stand and bang with manhoef, he was probably goint to get KTFO, that's what submissions are for in this sport...
I agree that Manhoef is one dimensional, but still, is not like his getting sub all the time, he only lost to mousasi, don sik yoon and akiyama, he beat good grapplers like oyama, gracie, sakuraba... not to mention he just KTFO hunt ...
 
Originally posted by: Lencazo415
Date: March 25, 2009 at 06:21 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/mousasi-underated.11918/
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I think Gegard was the best MW out there key word being
was
hes moving up to LHW which i think is the perfect weight class for him and then HW which doesnt seem to make to much sense. Hes more of a baby Fedor then Kiril could ever be.
 
Originally posted by: Gnarcore
Date: March 25, 2009 at 06:43 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/mousasi-underated.11918/
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Sure he beat Jacare but it wasn't like he was winning the fight. It was a nice up kick but Mousasi was about 5 seconds away from having Jacare on him in top position and that would have been a very bad spot to be in.
 
Originally posted by: Mas-
Date: March 25, 2009 at 07:17 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/mousasi-underated.11918/
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Gnarcore said:
Sure he beat Jacare but it wasn't like he was winning the fight. It was a nice up kick but Mousasi was about 5 seconds away from having Jacare on him in top position and that would have been a very bad spot to be in.
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A win is a win and he has proven he can do it to many top guys.
 
Originally posted by: Jak
Date: March 25, 2009 at 08:31 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/mousasi-underated.11918/
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bjj_rage said:
dude, this is mma, not k-1, Mousasi didnt have to prove anything by trying to stand and bang with manhoef, he was probably goint to get KTFO, that's what submissions are for in this sport...
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That doesn't change that for me subbing Manhoef doesn't mean much in relation to say, beating Jacare. We can back and forth, won't change much...
 
Originally posted by: Johnny419
Date: March 25, 2009 at 08:37 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/mousasi-underated.11918/
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Gnarcore said:
Sure he beat Jacare but it wasn't like he was winning the fight. It was a nice up kick but Mousasi was about 5 seconds away from having Jacare on him in top position and that would have been a very bad spot to be in.
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I think this adds to the reason why people tout him as the next "Lil Fedor"
Not saying he is indestructable, but that win was a very "Fedor-like" win (recent example: Fedor wasn't winning the fight against Arlovski, that is until he the flying knee was thrown and Fedor KO'd him). You can call it luck but being able to come out on top in the worst of situations is one of the best traits a fighter can have. Jacare rushed in and paid the price, same with Arlovski.
I just want to see Mousasi in the UFC though, he is the best addition they could make to the MW or LHW roster.
 
Originally posted by: Jak
Date: March 25, 2009 at 08:42 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/mousasi-underated.11918/
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Johnny419 said:
I just want to see Mousasi in the UFC though
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To bad he's represented by the same people who represent Fedor.
 
Originally posted by: PayaamElixir
Date: March 25, 2009 at 09:42 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/mousasi-underated.11918/
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If you already dont recognize Gegard Mousasi as a hundred percent A level fighter than you dont recognize mma.
Im telling you this right now, he already is someone on skill level one of the ten best in the world pound for pound. He is incredible anywhere the fight will go. Go look at his most recent fight, he fought a very good k1 guy, and absolutely beat him down. It was fought under the rules of k1, you need to watch that fight.
He will finish his career as one of the all time greats ever.
 
Originally posted by: JuSt1nSaNe
Date: March 25, 2009 at 10:19 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/mousasi-underated.11918/
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word i think he is one of the greatest, and definetly underated due to not being known in the US. I for one didn't know much about him til he breezed through the dream tourney. then i researched him and realized wut a stud he is. i remember him saying after the tourney he just moved down too 185 only to fight in the dream show but he is gonna go to 205. that's does suck cause i wanna see him fight A. Silva, but then again it is possible. i wish he would end up at the UFC to finish off his career. i love dana for everything he's done, but his cockyness is annoying sometimes. he knows damn well how much a big move picking up fedor and mousasi is. hopefully mousasi fights for affliction, i did hear he wants to fight in the US. And i would love to see him destroy tito or fight babalu.
Also gotta say jacare and mia would just be like wow, that was a good fight. And manehoff vs. A.silva would be great too, anderson got too much pride to take the easy way out.
 
Originally posted by: Rocksteady
Date: March 26, 2009 at 12:45 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/mousasi-underated.11918/
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I think Mousasi is a good fighter, but I really think he got lucky with Jacare, and Melvin Manhoef really messed up when he was fighting him.
I really would love to see those dream middleweights competing in UFC, I would love to see something like Marquardt vs. Manhoef, or Maia vs. Jacare, so many good fights we could see.
Bottom line, Mousasi is a top tier middleweight in my opinion and could probably be a potential champ, but I think that way with a few other dream middleweights.
 
Originally posted by: darcebandit
Date: April 17, 2010 at 10:01 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/mousasi-underated.11918/
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Jak said:
I'll just bump this one for Rage.
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lol
 
Originally posted by: Lasse
Date: April 17, 2010 at 10:02 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/mousasi-underated.11918/
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Remember the Evans vs Mousassi thread I created?
looks like Rashad turns Mousassi into holy s--- if they ever fought.
 
Originally posted by: JunkieDog
Date: April 17, 2010 at 10:32 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/mousasi-underated.11918/
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Jak said:
I'll just bump this one for Rage.
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He got beat by the SF LHW version of Brock Lesnar... without the ground and pound or ability to knock anyone legitimate off their feet. He may as well have been in there with a HW for that matter, as big as the strength disparity was.
I'd take Mousasi in a rematch ten times out of ten. Mo couldn't pass his guard, couldn't stand with him and took over 4 rounds to draw blood, despite being in dominant position almost the entire fight. Gegard landed FAR more strikes while standing AND on the ground, landed more kicks and did ten times the damage as this fool. All Mo could do was complete TD's... THAT'S the SF LHW champion??? Bwhahahahahahahahahaha!!!
MMA scoring and judging should be completely overhauled.... NOW!
 
Originally posted by: Jak
Date: April 17, 2010 at 10:37 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/mousasi-underated.11918/
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JunkieDog said:
He got beat by the SF LHW version of Brock Lesnar...
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I don't know, Mousasi has been training and fighting a long time, there are enough star wrestlers in the MW and LHW division that this shouldn't have been that new to Mousasi.
Although, to be fair, i was very much mistaken about King Mo's stand up and had it a lot more overrated than it was.
 
Originally posted by: Fjodorz
Date: April 17, 2010 at 10:44 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/mousasi-underated.11918/
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bjj_rage said:
How many of you think Mousasi is the actuall Nº 6 MW in the world??? this are his last four fights...
Ronaldo Souza KO (Upkick) (A class)
Melvin Manhoef Submission (Triangle Choke) (A class)
Dong Sik Yoon Decision (Unanimous) (his record isnt very impressive, but he lost to only the best)
Denis Kang Submission (Triangle Choke) (A class)
Steve Mensing KO (Punch) (dont even know who this guy is)
Evangelista Cyborg TKO (b class)
Besides Nate, do you think any UFC MW could beat him? I think Nate vs Mousasi will be a hell of I fight, but besides him, I dont see anyone else beating him... not to mention he has faced better competition than any other UFC fighter in his last six fights...
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AHahahahaha now i just have to find one of your Aoki threads too, so I can laugh more.. hahahahah "UNDERRATED" sure.. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
 
Originally posted by: abc0331
Date: April 18, 2010 at 01:33 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/mousasi-underated.11918/
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Not a good night for the anti-ufc camp and there go to guys.
Aoki and Mousasi showed they are still behind in many aspects.
Mousasi is a great fighter but still young and still needs conditioning and some work.
So no I do not think that Mousasi is under-rated. I thought he was WAY over-rated as early as last year and tonight shows he has great skills but not as good as so many hoped he was.
 
Originally posted by: DrKillByDeath87
Date: April 18, 2010 at 01:37 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/mousasi-underated.11918/
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after tonight certainly not. I also now believe that King Mo is a little overrated.. good TDs thats it...
 
Originally posted by: weknowhowtolive
Date: April 18, 2010 at 01:44 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/mousasi-underated.11918/
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From underrated to overrated in one 5 round fight.
 
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