Name That Submission
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Bloodsport 2 is from 1996, I do not know when EBravo founded 10PJJ, but I would suspect that it was the inspiration for 'the twister' more than a variation of it. I also suspect that they are showing a movie example of a Classical Jui-Jitsu technique
The second video ends with kata-hajime, I did not see anything that looked like 'the twister'
A kneebar is a real thing
. I assume the main character is practicing karate. I don't know if that is a style of Japanese Jui Jitsu or has completely different roots (someone please let me know). But since the 'twister' is 10PJJ, which is drawn from BJJ which is drawn from Judo, which is a distillation of JJJ, it is reasonable to conclude that variations of techniques exist all over.
All that being said, sometimes movies have horrible technique. This can be because it is just bad technique, or sometimes because the bad technique will look cool to the uninformed. There are a lot of submission that happen really fast and subtlety and would look horrible on the big screen to the general public.
Maybe back in the early days someone used Kata-Hajime. You typically want to be able to anchor your first hand before you start driving with your second hand, and since people do not wear a gi anymore and it is against the rules to just grab a hunk of flesh it has become less effective; I think if it was attempted it would end up looking like a rear naked choke or a sleeper hold.
Hyllar said:
Interesting to know it is from wrestling
I think a western and eastern martial arts often ended up in similar places without influence from each other, as good physics is good physics and people are built functionally the same.
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I can't wait until they revolutionize striking in MMA. I have watched many pro MMA fighters during their striking training, and most of them are not born from physics. They come from watching 1990's boxing matches. But I'm not gonna give out my trade secrets unless one of those gyms hires me full time.
Hyllar said:
Interesting to know it is from wrestling
I think a western and eastern martial arts often ended up in similar places without influence from each other, as good physics is good physics and people are built functionally the same.
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I mean, you look at a lot of various martial arts, and you'll see a lot of similar techniques. It's no surprise that grappling is similar.