Finished Tyron Woodley to win the Strikeforce WW strap.
Where is he in the rankings?
Will the UFC bring him back? When?
Who does he beat/lose to in the UFC?
Who does he fight next?
Like Nate or not he has always been a Top 5 middleweight. his only loses in the last 4 or 5 years have been to Anderson and Chael. He has beat some of the best Middleweights in the UFC. he should still be in the UFC right know.
magnuml said:
Like Nate or not he has always been a Top 5 middleweight.He has beat some of the best Middleweights in the UFC. he should still be in the UFC right know.
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I DK if I'd call his comp some of the best MW. The guy has gotten busted twice for performance enhancing. Not a good character, his 3 fight win streak after Kampmann was decent. Was Kampman at 185 for that one?
blacklung said:
magnuml said:
Like Nate or not he has always been a Top 5 middleweight.He has beat some of the best Middleweights in the UFC. he should still be in the UFC right know.
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I DK if I'd call his comp some of the best MW. The guy has gotten busted twice for performance enhancing. Not a good character, his 3 fight win streak after Kampmann was decent. Was Kampman at 185 for that one?
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Busted once. The other time he was doing what several other fighters are doing but he just didn't go about it properly. Then he didn't fight. Still a cheater but I'll take a 'cheater' who is entertaining over some boring schlub. I watch MMA to be entertained and the 'sporting' aspect' matters very little to me at this point.
magnuml said:
Like Nate or not he has always been a Top 5 middleweight. his only loses in the last 4 or 5 years have been to Anderson and Chael. He has beat some of the best Middleweights in the UFC. he should still be in the UFC right know.
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...and Okami
blacklung said:
I DK if I'd call his comp some of the best MW. The guy has gotten busted twice for performance enhancing. Not a good character, his 3 fight win streak after Kampmann was decent. Was Kampman at 185 for that one?
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Yes, that was at 185.
blacklung said:
magnuml said:
Like Nate or not he has always been a Top 5 middleweight.He has beat some of the best Middleweights in the UFC. he should still be in the UFC right know.
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I DK if I'd call his comp some of the best MW. The guy has gotten busted twice for performance enhancing. Not a good character, his 3 fight win streak after Kampmann was decent. Was Kampman at 185 for that one?
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forgot okami
vfrex said:
magnuml said:
Like Nate or not he has always been a Top 5 middleweight. his only loses in the last 4 or 5 years have been to Anderson and Chael. He has beat some of the best Middleweights in the UFC. he should still be in the UFC right know.
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...and Okami
blacklung said:
I DK if I'd call his comp some of the best MW. The guy has gotten busted twice for performance enhancing. Not a good character, his 3 fight win streak after Kampmann was decent. Was Kampman at 185 for that one?
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Yes, that was at 185.
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Forgot Okami. Thanks.
GOODNIGHTIRENE said:
he looked like the marquardt from Pancrase last night.
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The Marquardt that used to finish fights? The Marquardt that would recklessly go for subs and ko's? The pre-Silva-Ko Marquardt. That guy looked unstoppable. After Sipva he lost his confidence, started cheating, and lost his mojo. He looks good again. Confident, strong (naturally), and looks like he has nothing to lose. Woodley was top 20, and thats where I'll rank him right now. He's gotta beat someone top 10 at WW before I'll rank him higher than that. Chael showed what a big strong wrestler can do to him.
Tough to say where he ranks at Welterweight. He doesn't have enough high profile wins at this weight class to really break through in the rankings, but he has the skills of a top 5 fighter. Fighting in Strikeforce isn't going to move him up the ladder, he'd have to come into the UFC and fight a guy like Condit, Diaz, Ellenberger, Fitch, ect to really see where he stacks up.
I think he's anywhere from 10-12 after last night's impressive victory. If he came over to the UFC immediately I think a match-up with Ebersole would be fair and fun, assuming he defeats James Head this weekend.
wolf said:
GOODNIGHTIRENE said:
he looked like the marquardt from Pancrase last night.
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The Marquardt that used to finish fights?
The Marquardt that would recklessly go for subs and ko's?
The pre-Silva-Ko Marquardt. That guy looked unstoppable. After Sipva he lost his confidence, started cheating, and lost his mojo. He looks good again. Confident, strong (naturally), and looks like he has nothing to lose. Woodley was top 20, and thats where I'll rank him right now. He's gotta beat someone top 10 at WW before I'll rank him higher than that. Chael showed what a big strong wrestler can do to him.
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the dude still finished brutally after is silva ko loss
the mortal kombat finish of wilson is still epic
and his 1 punch to maia that set him flying like superman
wolf said:
GOODNIGHTIRENE said:
he looked like the marquardt from Pancrase last night.
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The Marquardt that used to finish fights? The Marquardt that would recklessly go for subs and ko's? The pre-Silva-Ko Marquardt. That guy looked unstoppable. After Sipva he lost his confidence, started cheating, and lost his mojo. He looks good again. Confident, strong (naturally), and looks like he has nothing to lose. Woodley was top 20, and thats where I'll rank him right now. He's gotta beat someone top 10 at WW before I'll rank him higher than that. Chael showed what a big strong wrestler can do to him.
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Marquardt was caught the first time in his UFC debut.........so technically he cheated at least 4 fights before the Silva fight.
i have always liked Nate...........great fighter and don't really care about the TRT stuff.
agree with the ranking you gave him though.......SF's WW division was one of the weakest divisions in all of MMA.......and woodley was like the ONLY wrestler, so this win doesn't do much for rankings.
Rocksteady said:
I am going to leave this here, one of the best KO's of the year for sure.
C-C-C-C-C-C-COMBO BREAKER
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i wish his mom would have been on the side where the camera was pointing the look on her face had to have been priceless that was a brutal knockout i keep picturing someone yelling finish him right before he throws the final uppercut
Aldo_superfan26 said:
Rocksteady said:
I am going to leave this here, one of the best KO's of the year for sure.
C-C-C-C-C-C-COMBO BREAKER
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i wish his mom would have been on the side where the camera was pointing the look on her face had to have been priceless that was a brutal knockout i keep picturing someone yelling finish him right before he throws the final uppercut
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I yelled
"Shoryuken"
But he didn't load that uppercut as low as I thought he did in the replay :lol: .
Yeah I wish I would have seen that stupid b----'s reaction.