Nevada Not Planning On Giving Judges Monitors, Why Not?

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Originally posted by: REDRUM
Date: April 21, 2011 at 12:21 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/nevada-not-planning-on-giving-judges-monitors-why-not.38000/

Ariel Helwani
Video Reporter and Writer
If you're one of those who believe that providing monitors for each judge during a fight would help eliminate bad decisions in MMA, you're not alone.
Unfortunately, Nevada, who has often been viewed as a trendsetter when it comes to implementing changes in MMA, has no immediate plans to provide individual monitors to each judge scoring MMA bouts.
Keith Kizer, the NSAC's executive director, told MMA Fighting on Tuesday that the state would not add cageside monitors for judges any time soon.
When asked if he would be open to the idea if a promoter, say, the UFC, asked for it, Kizer simply replied, "Maybe."
"A promoter can petition (to allow judges to have personal monitors,) and we'd put it on the agenda," Kizer told MMA Fighting. "The UFC is well aware of the process but has chosen not to ask in the past."
Cageside monitors were present by the judges seats at the TUF 11 Finale in Las Vegas in June, but Kizer unplugged them before the event.
According to the UFC, California is the only state to ever provide monitors for judges while scoring MMA bouts.
Kizer has said on numerous occasions that one of the main reasons reason why he hasn't placed monitors by the judges during a fight is because he likes the fact that the officials, who are positioned in different locations around the cage, have different vantage points during the bout.
That is certainly valid, but what happens when the fighters are battling on the ground at the other end of the cage or ring? Wouldn't it be helpful to place a monitor by the judges' side as a backup viewing option? How could it hurt?
The next major MMA event in Nevada in UFC 130 on May 28.
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Originally posted by: REDRUM
Date: April 21, 2011 at 12:24 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/nevada-not-planning-on-giving-judges-monitors-why-not.38000/

The fact that each judge doesnt have his own monitor in front of him makes no sense...
there are plenty of times when they just physically cant see the action because of their seats...
This isnt the end all fix to mma judging but i do believe it would have changed plenty of outcomes if the judge can judge see the action better when their views are obstructed....
Thoughts? Its common sense to me
 
Originally posted by: Jak
Date: April 21, 2011 at 12:25 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/nevada-not-planning-on-giving-judges-monitors-why-not.38000/

theREDRUM said:
How could it hurt?
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Then judges would have to justify why they give fights to the favoured fighter, and when some organizations are in the job of fix... i mean "wanting" their marquee fighters winning, monitors will hinder that and show their fighters actually not winning with video proof...
 
Originally posted by: REDRUM
Date: April 21, 2011 at 12:27 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/nevada-not-planning-on-giving-judges-monitors-why-not.38000/

Jak said:
theREDRUM said:
How could it hurt?
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Then judges would have to justify why they give fights to the favoured fighter, and when some organizations are in the job of fix... i mean "wanting" their marquee fighters winning, monitors will hinder that and show their fighters actually not winning with video proof...
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lol
 
Originally posted by: roostproof
Date: April 21, 2011 at 12:27 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/nevada-not-planning-on-giving-judges-monitors-why-not.38000/

theREDRUM said:
The fact that each judge doesnt have his own monitor in front of him makes no sense...
there are plenty of times when they just physically cant see the action because of their seats...
This isnt the end all fix to mma judging but i do believe it would have changed plenty of outcomes if the judge can judge see the action better when their views are obstructed....
Thoughts? Its common sense to me
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I think your on to something here..
 
Originally posted by: reghartner
Date: April 21, 2011 at 12:34 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/nevada-not-planning-on-giving-judges-monitors-why-not.38000/

keith kizer is CLEARLY a piece of s--- who does not care about the sport of MMA. he does not care. he never will. he takes no pride in his cushy job and will do the minimum work possible until he is fired or retires. why change the scoring system...do you know how much work he'd have to do?
f--- kizer. eat a bullet, a--hole.
 
Originally posted by: REDRUM
Date: April 21, 2011 at 12:36 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/nevada-not-planning-on-giving-judges-monitors-why-not.38000/

reghartner said:
keith kizer is CLEARLY a piece of s**t who does not care about the sport of MMA. he does not care. he never will. he takes no pride in his cushy job and will do the minimum work possible until he is fired or retires. why change the scoring system...do you know how much work he'd have to do?
f**k kizer. eat a bullet, a--hole.
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yea Kizer is a D-Bag for sure...
 
Originally posted by: Siroth
Date: April 21, 2011 at 02:22 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/nevada-not-planning-on-giving-judges-monitors-why-not.38000/

so kampman can keep loosing
 
Originally posted by: REDRUM
Date: April 21, 2011 at 02:26 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/nevada-not-planning-on-giving-judges-monitors-why-not.38000/

Siroth said:
so kampman can keep loosing
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i had my monitor on and saw him lose
but lets stay on topic
 
Originally posted by: mabrown45
Date: April 21, 2011 at 02:37 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/nevada-not-planning-on-giving-judges-monitors-why-not.38000/

I can see his point........when you are seeing the action live and there is a monitor in front of you that splits your attention......you will miss some things going back and forth from monitor to live action.
its all about getting more educated judges........its still a young sport
 
Originally posted by: Bob002
Date: April 21, 2011 at 04:26 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/nevada-not-planning-on-giving-judges-monitors-why-not.38000/

mabrown45 said:
I can see his point........when you are seeing the action live and there is a monitor in front of you that splits your attention......you will miss some things going back and forth from monitor to live action.
its all about getting more educated judges........its still a young sport
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I disagree. I get what you're saying, but I disagree. A monitor would allow you to see a closer shot of the action, as well as different angles that you might not be able to see from the normal vantage point.
 
Originally posted by: mabrown45
Date: April 21, 2011 at 04:39 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/nevada-not-planning-on-giving-judges-monitors-why-not.38000/

Bob002 said:
mabrown45 said:
I can see his point........when you are seeing the action live and there is a monitor in front of you that splits your attention......you will miss some things going back and forth from monitor to live action.
its all about getting more educated judges........its still a young sport
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I disagree. I get what you're saying, but I disagree. A monitor would allow you to see a closer shot of the action, as well as different angles that you might not be able to see from the normal vantage point.
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i never said that it wouldn't..........but i was saying when you have two things to look at instead of one it splits your focus and you will miss some things.
 
Originally posted by: Siroth
Date: April 21, 2011 at 04:48 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/nevada-not-planning-on-giving-judges-monitors-why-not.38000/

theREDRUM said:
Siroth said:
so kampman can keep loosing
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i had my monitor on and saw him lose
but lets stay on topic
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just a joke, i expected it to be posted already but no one did so i went ahead and did it, i dont hate kampan or anything. Hes fun to watch, i have no complaints about his fights
 
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