Next for SF daley vs diaz

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Originally posted by: casas
Date: April 10, 2011 at 03:42 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/next-for-sf-daley-vs-diaz.37650/

Nick Diaz: he needs to be taking under consideration in the top 10 of pound for pound list, he is one of the most improve figthers over the years, his boxing lessons has been so great and he just beat one of the best strikers in the game on his own game. the guy is money and GSp cleaning the division if he wins against shields i think zuffa needs to put him alredy against GSP
Daley vs Voelker
el niño melendez vs SF lw is a good division but they do have a problem, gilbert level is in another place and i trutly believe he is the number one LW right now so anybody in SF division cant be on his level so a fight against someone in the UFC might be a good idea, the loser of maynard vs edgar is a good idea since the winner is alredy for pettis vs guida
Kawajiiri vs ribeiro or a rematch with GZ
Mousasi vs Kyle
Jardine: he shows alot of heart and is good to see him squeezeing that draw and getting back in the big leagues, he found a home in SF right now and i want him to continue to work to get in the MW division a rematch with Prangley will be a good welcome for him on that division. i know that trevor is right now with no contract with sf but they need to sign him since they dont have to much MW deep
fancy pants vs gesias, fodor or gurgel
aoki vs pat healy: aoki is a wizard and we want to see more on him with dream been on the line of getting out of MMA i want to see more of him and healy got a quality win in his last fight and also he is a quality vet that can give us more clues on aoki game in SF lw divison
 
Originally posted by: Hitman21
Date: April 10, 2011 at 03:56 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/next-for-sf-daley-vs-diaz.37650/

Gil will probably get KJ
Diaz will get woodley
Gegard will get Kyle
Kawajiri should get Masvidal or Evangelista
Aoki should get Josh Thomson
Jardine should get Babalu
Daley should get Cyborg Santos
 
Originally posted by: casas
Date: April 10, 2011 at 03:59 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/next-for-sf-daley-vs-diaz.37650/

Hitman21 said:
Gil will probably get KJ
Diaz will get woodley
Gegard will get Kyle
Kawajiri should get Masvidal or Evangelista
Aoki should get Josh Thomson
Jardine should get Babalu
Daley should get Cyborg Santos
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i like the babalu vs jardine but he has been talking about moving to the MW division alredy. i hope he does but if SF talk to him to stay in the LHW division definity babalu is a good match for him
 
Originally posted by: SupermanUFC
Date: April 10, 2011 at 03:59 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/next-for-sf-daley-vs-diaz.37650/

melendez has nothing left to prove in strikeforce!! plz get him in the ufc lol
 
Originally posted by: casas
Date: April 10, 2011 at 04:04 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/next-for-sf-daley-vs-diaz.37650/

EGROJ said:
melendez has nothing left to prove in strikeforce!! plz get him in the ufc lol
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melendez and diaz. in melendez case SF lw division is not thin but he is on another level that can only be challenge it with UFC figthers right now and they are very few actually.
 
Originally posted by: SupermanUFC
Date: April 10, 2011 at 04:07 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/next-for-sf-daley-vs-diaz.37650/

casas said:
EGROJ said:
melendez has nothing left to prove in strikeforce!! plz get him in the ufc lol
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melendez and diaz. in melendez case SF lw division is not thin but he is on another level that can only be challenge it with UFC figthers right now and they are very few actually.
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i think that ufc has too many lws right now, and strikeforce has too few!! if the company was smart, theyd send guys like guilard, cerrone, bendo, and a few other big names out there to mix things up if melendez is going to be there a while, which i believe he will..
u cant just take the strikeforce champ out and take him to the ufc. shotime would be incredibly pissed!
 
Originally posted by: Hitman21
Date: April 10, 2011 at 04:07 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/next-for-sf-daley-vs-diaz.37650/

EGROJ said:
melendez has nothing left to prove in strikeforce!! plz get him in the ufc lol
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he has the Eddie fight still out there, if he can fight Eddie and win then goes to UFC and beats the champ....one can argue for him p4p King......He would be the only fighter who has beaten the best everywhere....he beat the two best from Japan Aoki, Kawajiri, the best SF Josh Thomson, and if he gets Eddie, and then if he can take out the UFC champ!!! he would have beaten 4 major promotion champ......the only undisputed champ from all the promotions
p4p King IMO.......LW might be the most stacked division in MMA if you counted as a spread division not just UFC.......and Gil would have beaten almost all the top 5....Aoki, Kawajiri, Eddie and the UFC Champ (Frankie/Maynard), damn thats crazy
so he should get the Eddie fight I think before he can jump in UFC
 
Originally posted by: casas
Date: April 10, 2011 at 04:09 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/next-for-sf-daley-vs-diaz.37650/

Hitman21 said:
EGROJ said:
melendez has nothing left to prove in strikeforce!! plz get him in the ufc lol
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he has the Eddie fight still out there, if he can fight Eddie and win then goes to UFC and beats the champ....one can argue for him p4p King......He would be the only fighter who has beaten the best everywhere....he beat the two best from Japan Aoki, Kawajiri, the best SF Josh Thomson, and if he gets Eddie, and then if he can take out the UFC champ!!! he would have beaten 4 major promotion champ......the only undisputed champ from all the promotions
p4p King IMO.......LW might be the most stacked division in MMA if you counted as a spread division not just UFC.......and Gil would have beaten almost all the top 5....Aoki, Kawajiri, Eddie/Maynard and the UFC Champ, damn thats crazy
so he should get the Eddie fight I think before he can jump in UFC
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i like it, i hope SF can work with bellator to make that a reality lets hope Zuffa magic came with that plan since it makes alot of sense
 
Originally posted by: SupermanUFC
Date: April 10, 2011 at 04:09 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/next-for-sf-daley-vs-diaz.37650/

Hitman21 said:
EGROJ said:
melendez has nothing left to prove in strikeforce!! plz get him in the ufc lol
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he has the Eddie fight still out there
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i just dont see that happening though.. it would be awesome and clearly its the only non ufc opponent out there for him right now. and will be the only one for a while to come, eventually more fighters will appear. but with the buy out of strikeforce, i see the ufc chosing not to let melendez risk hurting his rep agaisnt anyone not zuffa.. i expect to see him face small challenges outside zuffa until they build him up and get him in the ufc
 
Originally posted by: Hitman21
Date: April 10, 2011 at 04:10 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/next-for-sf-daley-vs-diaz.37650/

EGROJ said:
casas said:
EGROJ said:
melendez has nothing left to prove in strikeforce!! plz get him in the ufc lol
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melendez and diaz. in melendez case SF lw division is not thin but he is on another level that can only be challenge it with UFC figthers right now and they are very few actually.
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i think that ufc has too many lws right now, and strikeforce has too few!! if the company was smart, theyd send guys like guilard, cerrone, bendo, and a few other big names out there to mix things up if melendez is going to be there a while, which i believe he will..
u cant just take the strikeforce champ out and take him to the ufc. shotime would be incredibly pissed!
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SF champ > WEC champ
Showtime would get murdered by Gil......as much as I like that Kick, it wont save him from GIl
 
Originally posted by: Hitman21
Date: April 10, 2011 at 04:11 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/next-for-sf-daley-vs-diaz.37650/

EGROJ said:
Hitman21 said:
EGROJ said:
melendez has nothing left to prove in strikeforce!! plz get him in the ufc lol
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he has the Eddie fight still out there
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i just dont see that happening though.. it would be awesome and clearly its the only non ufc opponent out there for him right now. and will be the only one for a while to come, eventually more fighters will appear. but with the buy out of strikeforce, i see the ufc chosing not to let melendez risk hurting his rep agaisnt anyone not zuffa.. i expect to see him face small challenges outside zuffa until they build him up and get him in the ufc
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SF still co-promoting.....so you never know, I dont think he will take small challanges, how can you go from Thomson to Aoki to Kawajiri!!! and then to Cerone??? no way!!! they just risked it right now putting him vs Kawajiri he is DREAM I think still
 
Originally posted by: SupermanUFC
Date: April 10, 2011 at 04:12 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/next-for-sf-daley-vs-diaz.37650/

Hitman21 said:
EGROJ said:
i think that ufc has too many lws right now, and strikeforce has too few!! if the company was smart, theyd send guys like guilard, cerrone, bendo, and a few other big names out there to mix things up if melendez is going to be there a while, which i believe he will..
u cant just take the strikeforce champ out and take him to the ufc. shotime would be incredibly pissed!
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SF champ > WEC champ
Showtime would get murdered by Gil......as much as I like that Kick, it wont save him from GIl
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sorry i should have made myself a bit more clear, the reason for why i say this, is because these are reasonable opponents that have big names and can generate popular fights. its easier to sell melendez vs guillard or olivera, than it is to sell him against more unknown asian fighters.
 
Originally posted by: Hitman21
Date: April 10, 2011 at 04:14 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/next-for-sf-daley-vs-diaz.37650/

EGROJ said:
Hitman21 said:
EGROJ said:
i think that ufc has too many lws right now, and strikeforce has too few!! if the company was smart, theyd send guys like guilard, cerrone, bendo, and a few other big names out there to mix things up if melendez is going to be there a while, which i believe he will..
u cant just take the strikeforce champ out and take him to the ufc. shotime would be incredibly pissed!
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SF champ > WEC champ
Showtime would get murdered by Gil......as much as I like that Kick, it wont save him from GIl
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sorry i should have made myself a bit more clear, the reason for why i say this, is because these are reasonable opponents that have big names and can generate popular fights. its easier to sell melendez vs guillard or olivera, than it is to sell him against more unknown asian fighters.
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oh I see what you are saying......Olivera is not that known, if they want to give him an easy fight and against someone well known give him Guida or Sherk.......Gil would beat them easily
 
Originally posted by: SupermanUFC
Date: April 10, 2011 at 04:25 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/next-for-sf-daley-vs-diaz.37650/

Hitman21 said:
oh I see what you are saying......Olivera is not that known, if they want to give him an easy fight and against someone well known give him Guida or Sherk.......Gil would beat them easily
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yea just thinking of a few drunk examples off the top of my head, but yeah sherk would definitely be a much better example.. guida too.
 
Originally posted by: chriscrowing
Date: April 10, 2011 at 05:10 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/next-for-sf-daley-vs-diaz.37650/

First up, I'm making suggestions based on guys who are in a similarly winning or losing way to the fighters and are currently on the SF roster - as Diaz & Melendez have pretty much messed up their divisions and none of the marketable guys below them are putting streaks together, I've had to make some questionable calls - but I've also made suggestions on the possibility if transfers from/to the UFC are on the cards - which at the moment we're told they aren't, but its fun to fantasy book...
Nick Diaz:
Was briefly in trouble against Daley, but anyone who can finish Semtex with strikes gets my respect. Diaz has pretty much cleaned out his weight class in Strikeforce and the prospect of pitting him against GSP is tempting... but Dana has said no unification matches and Coker has said were 8-9 months away from any trades so that (and the possibility of someone like Penn or Fitch being transferred to SF to challenge Diaz) goes out the window for now. With that in mind, I'd give Tyron Woodley a title shot, on the basis that he's unbeaten and 'home grown' at Strikeforce. After that match, the crossover fights may become a possibility, and also it might b possible to sign someone like Askren or Saunders from Bellator.
Assuming transfers to UFC are plausible - definite Unification bout against
GSP
, assuming he beats Shields would be awesome. Failing that, a transfer of someone like
Jon Fitch
or
BJ Penn
to challenge for the SF title would be cool.
Paul Daley:
Looked good then got KO'd last night - Daley is always best in a standup war, and seeing as he probs won't get a title shot again I'd like to see him against someone who will similarly come to bang. I'd like to see him against
Cyborg Santos
or
Marius Zaromskis
because that fight would be AWESOME.
Gilbert Melendez:
Has a similar problem as Diaz in that he has cleared out his division, but there is no likelihood of a transfer of a challenger from or Gilbert going to the UFc anytime soon. Of the likely challengers, Josh Thomson is coming off a loss, JZ is coming off a loss, KJ Noons is coming off a loss, Pat Healy is coming off a win but lost recently to Thomson and I've got other plans for him anyway. As a stopgap until we can get some trickle down from the UFC, I'd give
Justin Wilcox
, a home-grown fighter on a 6-0 streak the next shot.
Again, assuming co-promotion is possible, a fight against the winner of
Edgar-Maynard
would be cool, but seeing as they are commited to facing the winner of Guida-Pettis, that would involve a long layoff for El Nino. In that case, I wouldn't mind seeing someone like
Donald Cerrone
or
Melvin Guillard
transferred over to face Gilbert.
Kawajiri:
Back to Japan? If not, a fight against one of SF's many top notch yet currently in-a-losing way fighters would be fine - say a rematch on American soil with
Josh Thomson
?
Gegard Mousasi:
I scored the fight as a win for him and a draw leaves him kinda in limbo - as Joe would say 'it's hard to sell a title shot coming off a loss' so I reckon he should get
Mike Kyle
as was originally planned.
Keith Jardine:
Managed to hang with a currently relevant LHW but is apparently looking at a move to the middleweight division - given he was gassing against gegard, you havre to question the wisdom of that but OK... I guess matches against
Robbie Lawler,
Trevor Prangley
or
Scott Smith
could all have some fan interest and also make sense from a 'relevance' point of view.
Shinya Aoki:
It seems Aoiki will sub almost anyone in SF not named El Nino, but I'd like to see him against
Pat Healy
in what could be a #1 contenders match.
Lyle Beerbohm:
A match against
JZ Cavalcante
would make sense I guess...either that or back to Challengers.
 
Originally posted by: casas
Date: April 10, 2011 at 01:35 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/next-for-sf-daley-vs-diaz.37650/

coker has saying that a rematch with jardine vs mousasi is under way.
i dont like it and i hope jardine continues to make his road to the MW division or babalu is a better match for him
for mousasi he will be ready for a june or july card and kyle has alredy heal by that time so put those two in there for those events
 
Originally posted by: roorippin
Date: April 10, 2011 at 01:47 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/next-for-sf-daley-vs-diaz.37650/

Diaz tried the UFC. Didnt work out too well for him. Gil could do well, probably beat Frankie and Gray, but Diaz gets beat in his first fight against a wrestler.
 
Originally posted by: EdoKaz818
Date: April 10, 2011 at 01:52 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/next-for-sf-daley-vs-diaz.37650/

roorippin said:
Diaz tried the UFC. Didnt work out too well for him.
Gil could do well, probably beat Frankie and Gray
, but Diaz gets beat in his first fight against a wrestler.
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at first i thought u where a SF hater but nvm
but yea i think Diaz has changed alot since his young days in the UFC> u have to remember he was only 21
 
Originally posted by: BDrizz
Date: April 10, 2011 at 01:54 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/next-for-sf-daley-vs-diaz.37650/

EdoKaz818 said:
roorippin said:
Diaz tried the UFC. Didnt work out too well for him.
Gil could do well, probably beat Frankie and Gray
, but Diaz gets beat in his first fight against a wrestler.
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at first i thought u where a SF hater but nvm
but yea i think Diaz has changed alot since his young days in the UFC> u have to remember he was only 21
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And.......the UFC fighters have sat around eating bon bons? Diaz would get pushed down to the undercard or close.to it just like his brother
 
Originally posted by: roorippin
Date: April 10, 2011 at 01:58 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/next-for-sf-daley-vs-diaz.37650/

EdoKaz818 said:
roorippin said:
Diaz tried the UFC. Didnt work out too well for him.
Gil could do well, probably beat Frankie and Gray
, but Diaz gets beat in his first fight against a wrestler.
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at first i thought u where a SF hater but nvm
but yea i think Diaz has changed alot since his young days in the UFC> u have to remember he was only 21
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Nah, my favorite fighter is a SF fighter.
I get that Diaz was young and has evolved, but so has the sport. Even of those who havent evolved, WW wrestlers in the UFC are just too good. You arent going to Armbar Jon Fitch. GSP isnt going to be gogo plata'd . I just dont see a UFC run going well for Diaz, IMO all it would do is hurt his stock.
 
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