No Penn vs Fitch___Penn vs Condit?

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Originally posted by: troubleman
Date: July 11, 2011 at 08:53 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/no-penn-vs-fitch___penn-vs-condit.40368/

Some one just posted a tweet from Bj to fitch, pretty much stating the rematch won't happen....would be sweet to Penn and Condit fight for contender status, then again, maybe better to just have them fight..either way, much more interesting fight than Fitch vs Penn2, Fans and BJ agree, interesting fights are better than title shots anyway....
 
Originally posted by: LitesOutPHX
Date: July 11, 2011 at 08:54 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/no-penn-vs-fitch___penn-vs-condit.40368/

troubleman said:
Some one just posted a tweet from Bj to fitch, pretty much stating the rematch won't happen....would be sweet to Penn and Condit fight for contender status, then again, maybe better to just have them fight..either way, much more interesting fight than Fitch vs Penn2, Fans and BJ agree, interesting fights are better than title shots anyway....
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I think BJ knows he would lose, thats the way the fight was going before. Penn vs Fitch NEEDS to happen but if it doesnt im down for Fitch vs Condit. Fitch will dominate Condit tho so
 
Originally posted by: casas
Date: July 11, 2011 at 09:17 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/no-penn-vs-fitch___penn-vs-condit.40368/

Joe Silva and the UFC dont want fitch vs Penn II
aperently they dont want to see it again since the fans had been making some noise to not let this fight happen again since is so boring to see fitch not to mention in a main event match since for sure he will be there if he is lineup against Penn
good job UFC is not worth to waste a penn fight against fitch and will not make to much noise for the WW rankings, put penn against other and make Fitch to fight someone in the preliminars so he can be motive to stop making just LNP in his fights
http://www.mmabay.co.uk/2011/07/12/ufc-%e2%80%9cnot-interested%e2%80%9d-in-a-rematch-between-b-j-penn-and-jon-fitch/
 
Originally posted by: MoJoJo
Date: July 11, 2011 at 09:24 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/no-penn-vs-fitch___penn-vs-condit.40368/

Re: Joe Silva and the UFC dont want fitch vs Penn II
YAY
 
Originally posted by: LitesOutPHX
Date: July 11, 2011 at 09:32 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/no-penn-vs-fitch___penn-vs-condit.40368/

Re: Joe Silva and the UFC dont want fitch vs Penn II
casas said:
aperently
good job UFC is not worth to waste a penn fight against fitch and will not make to much noise for the WW rankings, put penn against other and make Fitch to fight someone in the preliminars so he can be motive to stop making just LNP in his fights
http://www.(spammer-bay)/2011/07/12/ufc-%e2%80%9cnot-interested%e2%80%9d-in-a-rematch-between-b-j-penn-and-jon-fitch/
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LNP is the most over used term in the history of MMA fans. The guy can dominate a fight and pass the guard 100 times but he is always a LNP artist since he doesnt finish a fight. He could have the back of a BJJ black belt in 2 different rounds but he is LNP? Come on
And to think it doesnt make noise for the WW division is crazy. Fitch gets a win over Penn, especially if he dominates, then the title shot is his.
 
Originally posted by: mma_guru333
Date: July 11, 2011 at 09:47 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/no-penn-vs-fitch___penn-vs-condit.40368/

Re: Joe Silva and the UFC dont want fitch vs Penn II
LitesOut13 said:
casas said:
aperently
good job UFC is not worth to waste a penn fight against fitch and will not make to much noise for the WW rankings, put penn against other and make Fitch to fight someone in the preliminars so he can be motive to stop making just LNP in his fights
http://www.(spammer-bay)/2011/07/12/ufc-%e2%80%9cnot-interested%e2%80%9d-in-a-rematch-between-b-j-penn-and-jon-fitch/
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LNP is the most over used term in the history of MMA fans. The guy can dominate a fight and pass the guard 100 times but he is always a LNP artist since he doesnt finish a fight.
He could have the back of a BJJ black belt in 2 different rounds but he is LNP? Come on
And to think it doesnt make noise for the WW division is crazy. Fitch gets a win over Penn, especially if he dominates, then the title shot is his.
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+1
I'd like to see the fight again, only because I'd like to see B.J. beaten again, but I'm not crazy about Fitch's attitude atm.
 
Originally posted by: casas
Date: July 11, 2011 at 09:48 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/no-penn-vs-fitch___penn-vs-condit.40368/

Re: Joe Silva and the UFC dont want fitch vs Penn II
LitesOut13 said:
casas said:
aperently
good job UFC is not worth to waste a penn fight against fitch and will not make to much noise for the WW rankings, put penn against other and make Fitch to fight someone in the preliminars so he can be motive to stop making just LNP in his fights
http://www.(spammer-bay)/2011/07/12/ufc-%e2%80%9cnot-interested%e2%80%9d-in-a-rematch-between-b-j-penn-and-jon-fitch/
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LNP is the most over used term in the history of MMA fans. The guy can dominate a fight and pass the guard 100 times but he is always a LNP artist since he doesnt finish a fight. He could have the back of a BJJ black belt in 2 different rounds but he is LNP? Come on
And to think it doesnt make noise for the WW division is crazy. Fitch gets a win over Penn, especially if he dominates, then the title shot is his.
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wrong and this is not coming from me is coming from people that know about the sport better than abybody else joe silva and dana white so i guess i better go with them on this one
 
Originally posted by: LitesOutPHX
Date: July 11, 2011 at 09:53 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/no-penn-vs-fitch___penn-vs-condit.40368/

Re: Joe Silva and the UFC dont want fitch vs Penn II
casas said:
LitesOut13 said:
casas said:
aperently
good job UFC is not worth to waste a penn fight against fitch and will not make to much noise for the WW rankings, put penn against other and make Fitch to fight someone in the preliminars so he can be motive to stop making just LNP in his fights
http://www.(spammer-bay)/2011/07/12/ufc-%e2%80%9cnot-interested%e2%80%9d-in-a-rematch-between-b-j-penn-and-jon-fitch/
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LNP is the most over used term in the history of MMA fans. The guy can dominate a fight and pass the guard 100 times but he is always a LNP artist since he doesnt finish a fight. He could have the back of a BJJ black belt in 2 different rounds but he is LNP? Come on
And to think it doesnt make noise for the WW division is crazy. Fitch gets a win over Penn, especially if he dominates, then the title shot is his.
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wrong and this is not coming from me is coming from people that know about the sport better than abybody else joe silva and dana white so i guess i better go with them on this one
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The reason they dont want that fight is cuz of people like you who say LNP pray entirely too much. Joe Silva and Dana White didnt say Fitch is LNP and boring, you said that.
Fitch is the true #1 contender right now and shouldnt have had to fight Penn in the first place. But Penn vs Fitch I was going to give the #1 contender so Penn vs Fitch II would certainly give the #1 contender. They said it would most likely happen, im pretty sure it was rumored/scheduled to happen before they both had injuries, Fitch wants to fight Penn again, but since people b---- it apparently isnt happening. Mainly, its cuz Penn doesnt want what happened in the 3rd round to happen in 4 rounds. Penn is obviously ducking him
 
Originally posted by: casas
Date: July 11, 2011 at 09:59 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/no-penn-vs-fitch___penn-vs-condit.40368/

Re: Joe Silva and the UFC dont want fitch vs Penn II
i dont want to enter into another fitch debate because later the few fans on him report me and there is one mod that he only see the number of report botom to gave bans like candys but be honest here
dana white and joe silva never said jon fitch is boring? they never said that they dont like the wya he fights because he only look to squeeze a decision and never attemp to finish a fight? they never ever said one of those things?
and people like me said he is a LNP? really? you never see this on MMA pages or people that write and get pay about it on FItch? you never see this kind of thing from even other figthers?
Fitch is not the number 1 contender that is another lie since when someone coming from a draw gets a rematch title fight? is has been point out that he is not doing a thing to suggest he is getting new weapons against GSP in a rematch and GSP on the other hand has involve alot
Penn is ducking well that is another lie no matter what penn wants Joe Silva and Dana White aredoing the right thing here, there is no point to make a rematch on this fight, Fitch continue to be boring, it doesnt make sense to waste another fight on penn and pretty much they know better about MMA than us so i guess they have a better case than you saying and lying about penn ducking the LNP on fitch
 
Originally posted by: ResoluteProtector
Date: July 11, 2011 at 10:09 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/no-penn-vs-fitch___penn-vs-condit.40368/

LitesOut13 said:
troubleman said:
Some one just posted a tweet from Bj to fitch, pretty much stating the rematch won't happen....would be sweet to Penn and Condit fight for contender status, then again, maybe better to just have them fight..either way, much more interesting fight than Fitch vs Penn2, Fans and BJ agree, interesting fights are better than title shots anyway....
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I think BJ knows he would lose, thats the way the fight was going before. Penn vs Fitch NEEDS to happen but if it doesnt im down for Fitch vs Condit. Fitch will dominate Condit tho so
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I concur.
 
Originally posted by: PsychoIcon
Date: July 11, 2011 at 10:12 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/no-penn-vs-fitch___penn-vs-condit.40368/

I dont think anyone dominates Condit period. Maybe draw or split decision, but not dominate. :roll:
 
Originally posted by: snakechamer
Date: July 11, 2011 at 10:14 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/no-penn-vs-fitch___penn-vs-condit.40368/

I expect Condit to hurt BJ. Condit by decision or finish.
 
Originally posted by: LitesOutPHX
Date: July 11, 2011 at 10:15 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/no-penn-vs-fitch___penn-vs-condit.40368/

Re: Joe Silva and the UFC dont want fitch vs Penn II
casas said:
i dont want to enter into another fitch debate because later the few fans on him report me and there is one mod that he only see the number of report botom to gave bans like candys but be honest here
dana white and joe silva never said jon fitch is boring? they never said that they dont like the wya he fights because he only look to squeeze a decision and never attemp to finish a fight? they never ever said one of those things?
and people like me said he is a LNP? really? you never see this on MMA pages or people that write and get pay about it on FItch? you never see this kind of thing from even other figthers?
Fitch is not the number 1 contender that is another lie since when someone coming from a draw gets a rematch title fight? is has been point out that he is not doing a thing to suggest he is getting new weapons against GSP in a rematch and GSP on the other hand has involve alot
Penn is ducking well that is another lie no matter what penn wants Joe Silva and Dana White aredoing the right thing here, there is no point to make a rematch on this fight, Fitch continue to be boring, it doesnt make sense to waste another fight on penn and pretty much they know better about MMA than us so i guess they have a better case than you saying and lying about penn ducking the LNP on fitch
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Whether they or anyone else likes how he wins, he still wins and dominates his opponents. And I never said that Dana and Joe havent said that, but they certainly havent used the term LNP. LNP would mean he just lays in the guard and prays he doesnt get stood up which is far from the truth. A lot of people dont like his style but that doesnt mean he shouldnt get good fights with top fighters. He runs through opponents and that isnt questioned. Penn got beat the hell up by the end of that fight and was notciablely exhausted and from I remember he didnt think he won that fight, why would he wanna fight Fitch again? And with the potential of a 5 round fight?? He wouldnt and he will call out and suggest any other fighter.
And who said he gets a title shot off a draw? Fitch is the #2 WW in the world, has better wins than the other contenders, and also hasnt lost a fight in 3 year which would make him the #1 contender. I also said that their first fight was going to give the #1 contender to whoever won, I also said Fitch shouldnt have had to do that. Fitch dominated Alves who was the #3 WW at the time, he shouldnt have needed another fight at all.
How long are you going to deny Fitch and his abilities? How many fighters and top 10 WWs does he have to beat until he gets another title shot?? Beating Penn would have given him 2 top 10 WWs in a row and certainly would give him the title shot.
 
Originally posted by: PsychoIcon
Date: July 11, 2011 at 10:18 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/no-penn-vs-fitch___penn-vs-condit.40368/

Re: Joe Silva and the UFC dont want fitch vs Penn II
I thought the first fight was entertaining and a surprise and a better grappling match than expected expecially for a ufc event. That said...
Fitch vs Penn didnt sound right in the first place... Why on earth would part 2 sound good when its clearly as stale as it gets.
 
Originally posted by: LitesOutPHX
Date: July 11, 2011 at 10:18 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/no-penn-vs-fitch___penn-vs-condit.40368/

what REALLY doesnt make sense, why would Penn deserve a #1 contender fight over Fitch?
Oh I forgot, he isnt "boring". People must love to watch fighters gas out in the 2nd round. Cant wait to see him in a 5 round fight!
 
Originally posted by: casas
Date: July 11, 2011 at 10:19 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/no-penn-vs-fitch___penn-vs-condit.40368/

Re: Joe Silva and the UFC dont want fitch vs Penn II
LitesOut13 said:
casas said:
i dont want to enter into another fitch debate because later the few fans on him report me and there is one mod that he only see the number of report botom to gave bans like candys but be honest here
dana white and joe silva never said jon fitch is boring? they never said that they dont like the wya he fights because he only look to squeeze a decision and never attemp to finish a fight? they never ever said one of those things?
and people like me said he is a LNP? really? you never see this on MMA pages or people that write and get pay about it on FItch? you never see this kind of thing from even other figthers?
Fitch is not the number 1 contender that is another lie since when someone coming from a draw gets a rematch title fight? is has been point out that he is not doing a thing to suggest he is getting new weapons against GSP in a rematch and GSP on the other hand has involve alot
Penn is ducking well that is another lie no matter what penn wants Joe Silva and Dana White aredoing the right thing here, there is no point to make a rematch on this fight, Fitch continue to be boring, it doesnt make sense to waste another fight on penn and pretty much they know better about MMA than us so i guess they have a better case than you saying and lying about penn ducking the LNP on fitch
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Whether they or anyone else likes how he wins, he still wins and dominates his opponents. And I never said that Dana and Joe havent said that, but they certainly havent used the term LNP. LNP would mean he just lays in the guard and prays he doesnt get stood up which is far from the truth. A lot of people dont like his style but that doesnt mean he shouldnt get good fights with top fighters. He runs through opponents and that isnt questioned. Penn got beat the hell up by the end of that fight and was notciablely exhausted and from I remember he didnt think he won that fight, why would he wanna fight Fitch again? And with the potential of a 5 round fight?? He wouldnt and he will call out and suggest any other fighter.
And who said he gets a title shot off a draw? Fitch is the #2 WW in the world, has better wins than the other contenders, and also hasnt lost a fight in 3 year which would make him the #1 contender. I also said that their first fight was going to give the #1 contender to whoever won, I also said Fitch shouldnt have had to do that. Fitch dominated Alves who was the #3 WW at the time, he shouldnt have needed another fight at all.
How long are you going to deny Fitch and his abilities? How many fighters and top 10 WWs does he have to beat until he gets another title shot?? Beating Penn would have given him 2 top 10 WWs in a row and certainly would give him the title shot.
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i never deny the ability´s on jon fitch he is a great wrestler that master the art of LNP better than anyone, in fact he is the best in doing that but the problem is that LNP only can lead him to a one title shot and cant give him another rematch shot against GSP so he better start learning another weapon or else he will be stoped kind of like Penn did with the draw and GP did with the worst one side beat ever see in the history of the UFC in a title match
 
Originally posted by: Portillo
Date: July 11, 2011 at 10:19 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/no-penn-vs-fitch___penn-vs-condit.40368/

Re: Joe Silva and the UFC dont want fitch vs Penn II
Penn vs Condit, Fitch vs Shields.
 
Originally posted by: PsychoIcon
Date: July 11, 2011 at 10:20 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/no-penn-vs-fitch___penn-vs-condit.40368/

LitesOut13 said:
what REALLY doesnt make sense, why would Penn deserve a #1 contender fight over Fitch?
Oh I forgot, he isnt "boring". People must love to watch fighters gas out in the 2nd round. Cant wait to see him in a 5 round fight!
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Hed stop fighting guys close to 20 lbs bigger than him and fight anyone at lw other than Edgar and hes fine. The size of these welterweight athletes leaning on his frame is too much... excuse I know, but the truth maybe negative but its still the reason. It sure isnt talent.
 
Originally posted by: PsychoIcon
Date: July 11, 2011 at 10:20 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/no-penn-vs-fitch___penn-vs-condit.40368/

Re: Joe Silva and the UFC dont want fitch vs Penn II
Portillo said:
Penn vs Condit, Fitch vs Shields.
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Shields is fighting Ellenberger
 
Originally posted by: casas
Date: July 11, 2011 at 10:21 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/no-penn-vs-fitch___penn-vs-condit.40368/

Re: Joe Silva and the UFC dont want fitch vs Penn II
PsychoIcon said:
I thought the first fight was entertaining and a surprise and a better grappling match than expected expecially for a ufc event. That said...
Fitch vs Penn didnt sound right in the first place... Why on earth would part 2 sound good when its clearly as stale as it gets.
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exactly even if someone is a fitch fan or hater or a penn fan or hater this fight doesnt make sense the second time and Joe silva arguably the best matchmaker and Dana White knows more about this
Fitch demands are not helping him either so he would have to wait
i prefer to see Condit vs Penn and Fitch taking on the winner of Shields vs Ellensberg or Kim. Kosh is the one that makes more sense but we alredy know he demands his fights and duck to fight against him so....
 
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