Official Statement from Junkie Athletic Commission

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Originally posted by: buffaloblue
Date: January 08, 2009 at 01:18 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/official-statement-from-junkie-athletic-commission.8968/

*Steps to podium*
Ladies and Gentlemen of the Junkie Fighting Championships, recently the subject of promma's suspension was brought up by several people. Instead of releasing this news through the news, the Junkie Athletic Commission felt that it must make an official statement. Upon stating that IP checks would be put into place, promma immediately contacted myself to let me know that he used to be Ku. This was no big deal, but I did inform him that his record would carry over. I pm'ed Doug to make the changes to the rankings and would do so myself after the next JEC event.
Promma requested that his switch from Ku be kept quiet, because in his words, Ku is an a--hole. I was happy to oblige and move on. Also he wanted to better represent his site, promma.info.
The next JEC event was K1 Dynamite. After JEC 13 I went to put the rankings in and adjust promma/ku's rankings. Upon doing this I noticed that Ku and promma had both competed at JEC 11. I racked my brain to figure out how this had happend and also sent promma a message asking for an explanation. He sent me back a note basically saying he had not idea he had done that and would accept any punishment we layed down for him. Ku always got his picks up as soon as the event was posted, and I wondered in the back of my head if he did not realize that he had done picks as Ku. I honestly have no idea, but I felt no malicious intent was used.
Originally I wanted to go public with the suspension as I felt it was imperitive that everyone be outed publically. After speaking with the rest of the commission and the JFC staff it was decided the punishment would stay silent for a couple reasons. One, the entire staff felt that nothing malicious was done, and that promma made a mistake in one JEC and never tried to compete at the same event again. Second, the effort and work promma puts in on a daily basis for this forum is great, and while this was a very small part it did have a small affect on any decision.
Castellammarese moved to replace promma for the team tournament. Promma took it upon himself to announce the silent suspension in the daily news. Once this happend, it was quickly decided that we must tell the whole story.
One thing I can safely say I have learned it, that there will be no more private suspensions. If you do something, you will own up to it.
I dont think we should go hating on promma, as he made a simple mistake that pales in comparison to the ones others have made. He used his 2 names once, and did not since then. It was a JEC event, and I believe him when he said he didnt mean to.
Promma is officially suspended till January 30, 2009.
 
Originally posted by: dublindevil83
Date: January 08, 2009 at 01:31 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/official-statement-from-junkie-athletic-commission.8968/

Sounds good, glad he came forward. And i agree that it doesnt seem like he had any malicious intent.
 
Originally posted by: lightsout84
Date: January 08, 2009 at 02:16 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/official-statement-from-junkie-athletic-commission.8968/

this kinda s--- is gettin ridiculous...i didnt even know this stuff was goin on. The only reason you would do this is to f--- with the system and give yourself a better record...BAN ANYONE WHO DOES THIS s--- FROM NOW ON!!! dont care who ya are.
 
Originally posted by: lightsout84
Date: January 08, 2009 at 02:23 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/official-statement-from-junkie-athletic-commission.8968/

why the f--- would you change your name? If you dont like your (character) then f---in man up and work to change the preception of yourself....dont PUSS OUT and change your whole f---in idenity and post under some different name! COWARD!
 
Originally posted by: lightsout84
Date: January 08, 2009 at 02:24 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/official-statement-from-junkie-athletic-commission.8968/

f--- YOU AND YOUR f---in INTERVIEWS PROMMA!!! or should i say KU
 
Originally posted by: Meatmallet
Date: January 08, 2009 at 02:25 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/official-statement-from-junkie-athletic-commission.8968/

WTF is going on around here? Is this the WWE? If so am I in character?
 
Originally posted by: AdamChance
Date: January 08, 2009 at 02:56 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/official-statement-from-junkie-athletic-commission.8968/

why are people getting this upset... is it just me or is it obvious that he felt the need to change identities for the sole purpose of effectively delivering the daily news to all of us without judgement for previous decisions
 
Originally posted by: Castellammarese
Date: January 08, 2009 at 04:22 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/official-statement-from-junkie-athletic-commission.8968/

Meatmallet said:
WTF is going on around here? Is this the WWE? If so am I in character?
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Your characters name is "No Space"
 
Originally posted by: ArcArsenal
Date: January 08, 2009 at 04:40 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/official-statement-from-junkie-athletic-commission.8968/

AdamChance said:
why are people getting this upset... is it just me or is it obvious that he felt the need to change identities for the sole purpose of effectively delivering the daily news to all of us without judgement for previous decisions
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It's just you.
If that's all he wanted, he'd have just created an account named JFC News, and done nothing with that but post the news, or he'd have created his new account and ignored his old one completely. He wouldn't have continued to post and fight with both accounts.
 
Originally posted by: Castellammarese
Date: January 08, 2009 at 04:48 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/official-statement-from-junkie-athletic-commission.8968/

ArcArsenal said:
AdamChance said:
why are people getting this upset... is it just me or is it obvious that he felt the need to change identities for the sole purpose of effectively delivering the daily news to all of us without judgement for previous decisions
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It's just you.
If that's all he wanted, he'd have just created an account named JFC News, and done nothing with that but post the news, or he'd have created his new account and ignored his old one completely. He wouldn't have continued to post and fight with both accounts.
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Actually, its not just him. Promma created the account with that name in order to promote the website he writes for (promma.info). And the only reason he fought in the JFC was because i asked him if he would (in order to get someone a fight)
 
Originally posted by: Showdown
Date: January 08, 2009 at 04:53 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/official-statement-from-junkie-athletic-commission.8968/

lightsout84 said:
f**k YOU AND YOUR f**kin INTERVIEWS PROMMA!!! or should i say KU
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Easy there slick. The baby face of the JFC cant have a potty mouth like that...
Promma brings something to this league that no other league has. Blue is dead on what happened. KU was notorious for submitting picks the second they went up, and when he submitted as promma, he probably forgot he sent them in as KU. promma.info wanted him to represent their site with his journalism there, that is why he changed the name, as requested by employer. We'll chalk up your tirade to a night of drinking or shitty day at work. Go home and sleep it off and we'll see you here in the morning, with a fresh start...
 
Originally posted by: Castellammarese
Date: January 08, 2009 at 04:56 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/official-statement-from-junkie-athletic-commission.8968/

Showdown said:
lightsout84 said:
f**k YOU AND YOUR f**kin INTERVIEWS PROMMA!!! or should i say KU
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Easy there slick. The baby face of the JFC cant have a potty mouth like that...
Promma brings something to this league that no other league has. Blue is dead on what happened. KU was notorious for submitting picks the second they went up, and when he submitted as promma, he probably forgot he sent them in as KU. promma.info wanted him to represent their site with his journalism there, that is why he changed the name, as requested by employer. We'll chalk up your tirade to a night of drinking or s***ty day at work. Go home and sleep it off and we'll see you here in the morning, with a fresh start...
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I wonder if his account has been hacked. He was know as the humble champ and was compared to Andre3000 by someone (EPK I believe) by saying how different they were. Now he attacks everyone. It is most likely that the weight of all of his losses is getting to him
 
Originally posted by: Showdown
Date: January 08, 2009 at 04:58 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/official-statement-from-junkie-athletic-commission.8968/

Castellammarese said:
Showdown said:
lightsout84 said:
f**k YOU AND YOUR f**kin INTERVIEWS PROMMA!!! or should i say KU
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Easy there slick. The baby face of the JFC cant have a potty mouth like that...
Promma brings something to this league that no other league has. Blue is dead on what happened. KU was notorious for submitting picks the second they went up, and when he submitted as promma, he probably forgot he sent them in as KU. promma.info wanted him to represent their site with his journalism there, that is why he changed the name, as requested by employer. We'll chalk up your tirade to a night of drinking or s***ty day at work. Go home and sleep it off and we'll see you here in the morning, with a fresh start...
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I wonder if his account has been hacked
. He was know as the humble champ and was compared to Andre3000 by someone (EPK I believe) by saying how different they were. Now he attacks everyone. It is most likely that the weight of all of his losses is getting to him
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Thats what Im thinking(hoping)
 
Originally posted by: Gordon
Date: January 08, 2009 at 08:47 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/official-statement-from-junkie-athletic-commission.8968/

Sounds like Lightsout threw back a few last night! That's pretty much the only time he starts talking s---.
as far as P{romma goes. I figured it was something along those lines. I knew from the 1 month suspension that he had fessed up to whatever it was. I don't hold that against him. Mu8ch like I'm not holding JFCLK's against him. I appreciate the news that Promma brings to us everyday (most days) and look forward to seeinf him back in the JFC and JEC.
 
Originally posted by: Tai_Mai_Shu
Date: January 08, 2009 at 09:44 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/official-statement-from-junkie-athletic-commission.8968/

lightsout84 said:
why the f**k would you change your name? If you dont like your (character) then f**kin man up and work to change the preception of yourself....dont PUSS OUT and change your whole f**kin idenity and post under some different name! COWARD!
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should be ban Lightsout84isalegend?
 
Originally posted by: osubuckeye4
Date: January 08, 2009 at 09:55 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/official-statement-from-junkie-athletic-commission.8968/

Castellammarese said:
ArcArsenal said:
AdamChance said:
why are people getting this upset... is it just me or is it obvious that he felt the need to change identities for the sole purpose of effectively delivering the daily news to all of us without judgement for previous decisions
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It's just you.
If that's all he wanted, he'd have just created an account named JFC News, and done nothing with that but post the news, or he'd have created his new account and ignored his old one completely. He wouldn't have continued to post and fight with both accounts.
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Actually, its not just him. Promma created the account with that name in order to promote the website he writes for (promma.info). And the only reason he fought in the JFC was because i asked him if he would (in order to get someone a fight)
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I swear I'm not tryin to stir the pot here, but it was actually the exact opposite situation.
He submitted picks right at the deadline and you made a post after the H2H was up asking for anyone to face him, then you or blue PM'ed me and asked me if I'd face him, I was actually not even gonna fight in JEC 12. (I'm glad I did because I ended up doing well, but I only spent about 10 minutes doing analysis for the card before I sent my picks in)
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Re: JEC 11 Head to Head and Live Results
by Castellammarese on Wed Dec 03, 2008 2:39 pm
Promma has sent in some picks. Is there anyone out there willing to submit some picks
Re: JEC 11 Head to Head and Live Results
by promma on Wed Dec 03, 2008 2:46 pm
Please can I get a fight?
Re: JEC 11 Head to Head and Live Results
by Juniper on Wed Dec 03, 2008 2:50 pm
Damn had i not already been matched i would
Re: JEC 11 Head to Head and Live Results
by osubuckeye4 on Wed Dec 03, 2008 2:54 pm
I'll write some up right now, give me 5-10 minutes, gonna do some really quick research on some of the undercard matches
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I'm guessing JEC 11 is the card that is being referred to at least:
Lines def. Ku by Split Decision ( 96 - 93 )
osubuckeye4 def. promma by Unanimous Decision ( 108 - 101 )
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I really don't think he was in any way trying to pull a fast one on anybody as he didn't use Ku in any of the events that followed JEC 11. Personally I think it sucks that he got any suspension, as his picks weren't ill intended at all. Then again, those are the rules so I'm not whining on his behalf.
I'm gonna guess the same thing as Cast or Blue stated above, he probably submitted his Ku picks right when the card was posted... created Promma account later in the week and completely forgot he was registered for the event until the H2H was already up.
At the worst, and this part is complete speculation, he might have seen both his accounts up there in the final results and didn't want to say anything because he knew he wouldn't be using Ku again and didn't want to face a suspension.
I have no complaints about the situation. If anything I'm really glad that he did enter as promma. I was 0-2 before that match and was probably gonna take a break from the JEC. Instead, I got the win, ended up having a nice win streak and actually fought up to a #1 contenders match (which I lost, but it was still cool to have the shot)
Props to blue for the explanation, and I'm not trying to fight with you Cast... I just don't want someone digging up the JEC 11 thread down the road and making this into a bigger deal then it needs to be. Seems to be an honest mistake and he's going to miss the Team GP, that's a pretty huge penalty and hopefully people can cut him a break in the judgement department.
 
Originally posted by: Castellammarese
Date: January 08, 2009 at 10:04 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/official-statement-from-junkie-athletic-commission.8968/

osubuckeye4 said:
I swear I'm not tryin to stir the pot here, but it was actually the exact opposite situation.
He submitted picks right at the deadline and you made a post after the H2H was up asking for anyone to face him, then you or blue PM'ed me and asked me if I'd face him, I was actually not even gonna fight in JEC 12. (I'm glad I did because I ended up doing well, but I only spent about 10 minutes doing analysis for the card before I sent my picks in)
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Re: JEC 11 Head to Head and Live Results
by Castellammarese on Wed Dec 03, 2008 2:39 pm
Promma has sent in some picks. Is there anyone out there willing to submit some picks
Re: JEC 11 Head to Head and Live Results
by promma on Wed Dec 03, 2008 2:46 pm
Please can I get a fight?
Re: JEC 11 Head to Head and Live Results
by Juniper on Wed Dec 03, 2008 2:50 pm
Damn had i not already been matched i would
Re: JEC 11 Head to Head and Live Results
by osubuckeye4 on Wed Dec 03, 2008 2:54 pm
I'll write some up right now, give me 5-10 minutes, gonna do some really quick research on some of the undercard matches
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I asked if there was anyone willing to make a set of picks to fight someone, and I received 2 sets of picks. Which meant I needed to look for someone to fight Promma, and you stepped up.
 
Originally posted by: Castellammarese
Date: January 08, 2009 at 10:10 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/official-statement-from-junkie-athletic-commission.8968/

I just looked back and it was TheProdigy who was looking for a fight. I sent out a PM to a few people and posted in the thread saying I needed someone to fight him. Juniper got back first and fought him. But promma also sent in picks. I sent a PM to osubuckeye asking him if he would fight him, to which he responded with something along the lines, "Thats funny, because I was just about to say in the thread that I will fight him". When I'm looking for people to make picks at last minute, I sometimes send out a PM to some people who I think may step up.
 
Originally posted by: Castellammarese
Date: January 08, 2009 at 10:11 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/official-statement-from-junkie-athletic-commission.8968/

osubuckeye4 said:
Props to blue for the explanation, and
I'm not trying to fight with you Cast...
I just don't want someone digging up the JEC 11 thread down the road and making this into a bigger deal then it needs to be. Seems to be an honest mistake and he's going to miss the Team GP, that's a pretty huge penalty and hopefully people can cut him a break in the judgement department.
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So you are going to duck me. I am calling you out. Next JEC, I kick your ***
 
Originally posted by: osubuckeye4
Date: January 08, 2009 at 10:30 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/official-statement-from-junkie-athletic-commission.8968/

Castellammarese said:
osubuckeye4 said:
Props to blue for the explanation, and
I'm not trying to fight with you Cast...
I just don't want someone digging up the JEC 11 thread down the road and making this into a bigger deal then it needs to be. Seems to be an honest mistake and he's going to miss the Team GP, that's a pretty huge penalty and hopefully people can cut him a break in the judgement department.
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So you are going to duck me. I am calling you out. Next JEC, I kick your ***
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As far as your first post... yes, that is exactly what happened. I think I even have the response PM that I sent to you and it had those exact words. Cast was just trying to match people up who got their picks in near the deadline or who didn't have opponents, he does that for pretty much every card though. I'm still glad that I was able to face promma during that card and like I said, I really have no objections to the way any of it played out.
As far as your second post? Let's do it!
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Oh man... this is the Palace Fighting one, isn't it? You're probably gonna mop the floor with me
 
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