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osubuckeye4
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It's tinfoil to suggest that the very small number of billionaires who own the vast majority of media are selectively choosing what stays in the headlines? I thought that was common knowledge at this point.
Is it tinfoil that the Lindsay Clancy story got wall to wall media coverage but the Corie Walsh story (see below) was in and out of the news within 24 hours?
Judge orders Frankfort mother charged in 2-year-old son's death held pending trial
A Will County judge on Tuesday granted prosecutors' petition to keep Corie Walsh in custody pending trial as she faces first-degree murder charges in the death of her 2-year-old son, Barrett.
abc7chicago.com
Judge orders Frankfort mother charged in 2-year-old son's death held pending trial
A Will County judge on Tuesday granted prosecutors' petition to keep Corie Walsh in custody pending trial as she faces first-degree murder charges in the death of her 2-year-old son, Barrett.
During the hearing, 40-year-old Walsh stood in court in handcuffs and shackles, at times with her head down. Her attorneys argued that the case should not be treated as first-degree murder, contending Walsh was experiencing a psychotic episode when the child was killed.
Warning: The details of the story may be disturbing to some viewers.
Prosecutors detailed allegations tied to the Sept. 1 death of Barrett at the family's home on Brookstone Court in Frankfort. According to prosecutors, the child was found hanging from basement rafters after his siblings returned home from school. A neighbor discovered him, performed CPR, and called 911. Barrett was later pronounced dead at a hospital.
Additional details presented in court alleged that Walsh's 8-month-old infant was lying unsupervised on a carpeted area elsewhere in the home while Walsh was allegedly attempting to harm herself in an upstairs bathtub. Prosecutors said the same neighbor found Walsh, took a kitchen knife from her hands, and applied a towel to wounds on her wrists and thighs.
Prosecutors further alleged that "the defendant told officers she did this to her baby because he was the 'devil' and the 'anti-Christ.'"
They also alleged Walsh threatened to kill her husband upon his return from an out-of-state trip using a poisoned drink. Prosecutors said a drink and open bottles of prescribed medication were found on a counter at the home. The couple's three other children were not harmed, though prosecutors alleged Walsh also threatened to kill them.
The hearing also included discussion of the Lindsay Clancy murder trial. Prosecutors said, "Witnesses informed the officers that the defendant had recently become very invested in the Lindsay Clancy murder trial; at the time of this occurrence, the jury was still deliberating on the matter."
According to prosecutors, Walsh participated in a group chat with other mothers in which she believed Clancy's husband had killed their children but allegedly texted on the morning of the incident that she had changed her view.
Gil Soffer, ABC7's chief legal analyst, said prosecutors are likely to focus on evidence they believe shows Walsh understood her actions.
"What actions did she take that might show that this is someone who did appreciate that what she was doing was wrong? That's going to be the thrust of the prosecution's case," Soffer said.
Walsh is represented by Casey Anthony's former attorney Andrea Lyon and Anthony Kerr, who rejected any connection between Walsh's case and the Clancy trial.
"The speculation that this has anything to do with copycat or anything like that is baseless and cruel," Lyon said.
Soffer said the defense views the Clancy references as potentially harmful to its case.
"The defense is seeing it as a threat, as a problem to be contended with because the prosecution is arguing that she understood what was happening," Soffer said.
The defense also challenged the first-degree murder charges, arguing that statements Walsh allegedly made that day were disorganized and unreliable because she was experiencing psychosis.
"She was psychotic, and this was not a first-degree murder," Lyon said.
"We feel very strongly about what Corie needs, the attention she needs, and we're going to continue fighting for that. This is not a case of first degree murder, it's anything but that," Kerr said.
Unlike the Clancy case in Massachusetts, the defense in Illinois bears the burden of proving insanity.
"It's a harder road to here than it is for the defense in Massachusetts," Soffer said.
Members of Walsh's family attended the hearing in support of her. Defense attorneys said Walsh's husband and mother were unable to attend because Barrett's funeral was being held Tuesday but wanted to express their "unwavering support of Corie."
They said Walsh's husband continues to support her despite the alleged threats against his life.
Walsh's attorneys said they are considering an appeal of the judge's detention ruling and may seek pretrial release at a future hearing. Walsh is scheduled to return to court Sept. 24.
JawboneOfAnAss
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Every year, the media execs look for the next 'hot mess', usually a trial, to milk ratings and boost their quarterly earnings for advertisers. This year is Lindsey Clancy. Before was Amber Heard, Casey Anthony, Kyle Rittenhouse, Tiger Woods DUI and divorce, and so on. Ever since the OJ Simpson trial made them so much money.It's tinfoil to suggest that the very small number of billionaires who own the vast majority of media are selectively choosing what stays in the headlines? I thought that was common knowledge at this point.
Is it tinfoil that the Lindsay Clancy story got wall to wall media coverage but the Corie Walsh story (see below) was in and out of the news within 24 hours?
Judge orders Frankfort mother charged in 2-year-old son's death held pending trial
A Will County judge on Tuesday granted prosecutors' petition to keep Corie Walsh in custody pending trial as she faces first-degree murder charges in the death of her 2-year-old son, Barrett.
Judge orders Frankfort mother charged in 2-year-old son's death held pending trial
A Will County judge on Tuesday granted prosecutors' petition to keep Corie Walsh in custody pending trial as she faces first-degree murder charges in the death of her 2-year-old son, Barrett.
During the hearing, 40-year-old Walsh stood in court in handcuffs and shackles, at times with her head down. Her attorneys argued that the case should not be treated as first-degree murder, contending Walsh was experiencing a psychotic episode when the child was killed.
Warning: The details of the story may be disturbing to some viewers.
Prosecutors detailed allegations tied to the Sept. 1 death of Barrett at the family's home on Brookstone Court in Frankfort. According to prosecutors, the child was found hanging from basement rafters after his siblings returned home from school. A neighbor discovered him, performed CPR, and called 911. Barrett was later pronounced dead at a hospital.
Additional details presented in court alleged that Walsh's 8-month-old infant was lying unsupervised on a carpeted area elsewhere in the home while Walsh was allegedly attempting to harm herself in an upstairs bathtub. Prosecutors said the same neighbor found Walsh, took a kitchen knife from her hands, and applied a towel to wounds on her wrists and thighs.
Prosecutors further alleged that "the defendant told officers she did this to her baby because he was the 'devil' and the 'anti-Christ.'"
They also alleged Walsh threatened to kill her husband upon his return from an out-of-state trip using a poisoned drink. Prosecutors said a drink and open bottles of prescribed medication were found on a counter at the home. The couple's three other children were not harmed, though prosecutors alleged Walsh also threatened to kill them.
The hearing also included discussion of the Lindsay Clancy murder trial. Prosecutors said, "Witnesses informed the officers that the defendant had recently become very invested in the Lindsay Clancy murder trial; at the time of this occurrence, the jury was still deliberating on the matter."
According to prosecutors, Walsh participated in a group chat with other mothers in which she believed Clancy's husband had killed their children but allegedly texted on the morning of the incident that she had changed her view.
Gil Soffer, ABC7's chief legal analyst, said prosecutors are likely to focus on evidence they believe shows Walsh understood her actions.
"What actions did she take that might show that this is someone who did appreciate that what she was doing was wrong? That's going to be the thrust of the prosecution's case," Soffer said.
Walsh is represented by Casey Anthony's former attorney Andrea Lyon and Anthony Kerr, who rejected any connection between Walsh's case and the Clancy trial.
"The speculation that this has anything to do with copycat or anything like that is baseless and cruel," Lyon said.
Soffer said the defense views the Clancy references as potentially harmful to its case.
"The defense is seeing it as a threat, as a problem to be contended with because the prosecution is arguing that she understood what was happening," Soffer said.
The defense also challenged the first-degree murder charges, arguing that statements Walsh allegedly made that day were disorganized and unreliable because she was experiencing psychosis.
"She was psychotic, and this was not a first-degree murder," Lyon said.
"We feel very strongly about what Corie needs, the attention she needs, and we're going to continue fighting for that. This is not a case of first degree murder, it's anything but that," Kerr said.
Unlike the Clancy case in Massachusetts, the defense in Illinois bears the burden of proving insanity.
"It's a harder road to here than it is for the defense in Massachusetts," Soffer said.
Members of Walsh's family attended the hearing in support of her. Defense attorneys said Walsh's husband and mother were unable to attend because Barrett's funeral was being held Tuesday but wanted to express their "unwavering support of Corie."
They said Walsh's husband continues to support her despite the alleged threats against his life.
Walsh's attorneys said they are considering an appeal of the judge's detention ruling and may seek pretrial release at a future hearing. Walsh is scheduled to return to court Sept. 24.
In the same vein, everything involving the words Israel and Palestine, even if there is such a minute connection to the main purpose of the media, is highlighted as clickbait to drive engagement. ESPN ran an article about Kyrie Irving, noted hotep and anti semite, donating to pay for a muslim NFL player's fine for putting a palestine tribute decal on his helmet. They put the headline there for one day and then took it down.
Everything the media does is to milk ratings, first and foremost. The NYPostification of legacy media has already happened.
JawboneOfAnAss
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By the way Buck, there is a short tv program I highly recommend if you have HBO. I'm watching it now. It's in Italian but with English subs. It's called Portobello, about the David Letterman of Italy, Enzo Tortora, being wrongfully accused by a deranged mafia informant as being a drug kingpin, and the insane character assassination and trial that followed, while everyone swarmed around him like leeches to ruin Enzo's life. Really puts in perspective how media can be (and makes me thank HaShem that us Americans have a much better legal system).
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osubuckeye4
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It's either ratings or things that the owner (always a billionaire, given that like 9 of them own 80+% of media in this country now) and his close friends are passionate about.
You really don't find it odd at all that Macklemore, who has never stopped shutting up about this stuff and his message of 'love and respect for all', all of a sudden a month out from elections is all over the headlines and that a bunch of billionaires (led Robert Kraft who is close to all of this) are all directly tied to it?
Again, I'm not saying it's a conspiracy in the sense that Ed Sheeran and Macklemore are directly in on it and it was all carefully planned in advance.
It's just very hard for me to believe that any of this would be getting the type of coverage it is receiving if we weren't so close to the Israeli elections (one that seems more and more like it is a toss-up for Netanyahu to win) as well as the US midterms (both sides trying to rally their bases and using elements of this as a beacon to do so)
JawboneOfAnAss
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The percentage of people in America who give a shit about Ed Sheeran's political views or Macklemore in general are a rounding error.
If you are looking for things that appear 'coordinated', then everything is a conspiracy. Easy way to counter this? Ask how do the parties involved profit. In the case of media, it's super easy. Ratings.
osubuckeye4
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Right... so why are they dominating headlines for over a week straight?
It's not always ratings, it's also about pleasing advertisers and building goodwill with influencial people/officials (people like Robert Kraft... who, if you do a favor for can repay you down the road in some way).
Put it this way... if something was guaranteed to attract a billion eyeballs, but, reporting accurately on it was going to piss off 5 of your top 7 largest buyers of ad space and blow a hole in your budget that you couldn't find other willing buyers to fill... it would likely still get reported on, but, it would get buried.
Is this really considered tinfoil thinking?
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JawboneOfAnAss
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Cause it's a hot mess.
Why did the NYPost break the continues reporting streak of 9/11 with the Tiger Woods DUI story?
Cause it's a hot mess.
osubuckeye4
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Is it a mess though?
Or, are you seeing more stories like these that are using the event to interject their own views and tie the events to the upcoming elections?
Macklemore isn't changing minds, he's forcing media coverage | Opinion
I think it’s imperative that artists use their platform to further conversation about important political subjects.
www.usatoday.com
Robert Kraft Defends Banning Macklemore From Ed Sheeran Tour After ‘Free Palestine’ Comments: ‘We Do Not Provide a Platform for Hate Speech’
New England Patriots owner Robert Kraft has defended his decision to create a de facto ban on rapper Macklemore performing in support of Ed Sheeran.
variety.com
JawboneOfAnAss
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I just see reporters using AI to generate cheap articles.Is it a mess though?
Or, are you seeing more stories like these that are using the event to interject their own views and tie the events to the upcoming elections?
Macklemore isn't changing minds, he's forcing media coverage | Opinion
I think it’s imperative that artists use their platform to further conversation about important political subjects.www.usatoday.com
Robert Kraft Defends Banning Macklemore From Ed Sheeran Tour After ‘Free Palestine’ Comments: ‘We Do Not Provide a Platform for Hate Speech’
New England Patriots owner Robert Kraft has defended his decision to create a de facto ban on rapper Macklemore performing in support of Ed Sheeran.
Edit: out of curiosity, cause I do not want to give them clicks, how many of these articles actually have their own reporters...do anything? As in, call people, visit the venues, anything. Or do they just repackage the story with their editor's slant and hit publish?
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osubuckeye4
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Certainly no shortage of that.
One of our directors of finance and I got on a kick awhile back where we would each try to find the 'laziest' story of the day from a mainstream outlet.
There are so many of them that are essentially one paragraph summarizing an event and then 10-12 pulled screenshots from Reddit and X.
Like this one:
White House tries to take credit for Wendy’s switching back to a classic look
Wendy’s has revived its iconic yellow fry boxes and Frosty cups as customers yearn for the comforts of their 90s childhood
From the article:
But people in the comment section either couldn't see how Trump could have a hand in the decision or mocked him for claiming a fast-food refresh as one of his accomplishments.
"Trump has nothing to do with that. What are you smoking? You should say 'Thank you, [Wendy's founder] Dave [Thomas]' and thank the customers who demanded it back," one X user said.
Another wrote: "The level of delusion actually scares me."
"Imagine having so few actual wins that you have to fabricate fake ones about fast food," a third posted.
JawboneOfAnAss
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That's why I don't see anything coordinated here. Hot mess involving some celebs and current geopolitical flashpoint, someone in Associated Press already did the grunt work, they just blend the story into an edited smoothie, run it through Chatgpt to get just the right amount of clickbait and political slant without 'sullying' their reputation, and hit publish.Certainly no shortage of that.
One of our directors of finance and I got on a kick awhile back where we would each try to find the 'laziest' story of the day from a mainstream outlet.
There are so many of them that are essentially one paragraph summarizing an event and then 10-12 pulled screenshots from Reddit and X.
Like this one:
White House tries to take credit for Wendy’s switching back to a classic look
Wendy’s has revived its iconic yellow fry boxes and Frosty cups as customers yearn for the comforts of their 90s childhoodwww.yahoo.com
From the article:
But people in the comment section either couldn't see how Trump could have a hand in the decision or mocked him for claiming a fast-food refresh as one of his accomplishments.
"Trump has nothing to do with that. What are you smoking? You should say 'Thank you, [Wendy's founder] Dave [Thomas]' and thank the customers who demanded it back," one X user said.
Another wrote: "The level of delusion actually scares me."
"Imagine having so few actual wins that you have to fabricate fake ones about fast food," a third posted.
News stopped being news decades ago. It's just entertainment. The Lindsay Clancy trial and tonight's Giants/Rams game are two completely different things, but in the eyes of the general public and advertising agencies, they are just different flavors of the same circus.
osubuckeye4
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It was a complete nothingburger... then Robert Kraft started making calls and all of a sudden it turned into wall to wall coverage.
I think it's less because the public was generally interested in what was going on, and more because Kraft is friends with a lot of these media publication owners and they got together and decided to make it into a headline.
Kind of the way that ESPN will have polemic host that will say something insane (i.e. 'I think Ronda Rousey could beat Cain Velasquez in a 5 round fight!') and then all the other hosts will do the, "well, since EVERYONE is all of a sudden talking about how Ronda Rousey can beat UFC male championship fighters I need to weigh in and say how crazy that is!"
Come on, legit no one was talking about the thing 'everyone' was talking about... not until ESPN paid one of their own employees to say something insane, and then told all the other employees to respond to the manufactured nonsense.
I agree to a certain extent... the only disagreement is that you seem to think that ratings rule the roost and that headlines are based off of what event will attract the most eyeballs and generate the most profit ('clicks = profit').
I think that a lot of these entities are now vertically integrated to the point where media is just one arm of a much larger machine. It's not just about getting eyeballs... it's also about placating the corporations/billionaires who are buying the ad time that people who click on the site are being subjected too.
Take Jeff Bezos purchasing the Washington Post... he didn't make that purchase just to make money by attracting max eyeballs to the site and getting clicks. He did it partially because it generates profit... but also because it's a useful tool to help promote other ventures that he and his buddies are invested in.
JawboneOfAnAss
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I don't have the energy to keep arguing this any longer. If you think this is some greater conspiracy or targeted attempt to sway votes (liberal legacy media billionaires needs to do this to sway votes but apparently cannot even float some money so the DNC can pay their debts) then more power to you. I really think you are trying to work backwards from a conclusion you arrived to first.
a-mart
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Nah it was the obsessive Israel derangement syndrome people and their supporters in the media, there's no need to pay anyone to get this particular part of the public outraged
Why would Kraft want to make a story out of him canceling someone
JawboneOfAnAss
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The Israel derangement syndrome people are pretty small in American legacy media outside of NY Times and MS Now, yes CNN ABC and NBC are biased against Israel but its not a cornerstone topic for them. More so it is because anything with the word Palestine or Israel on it will drive clicks, and very easily too. Aside from Muslim Brotherhood Qatari bot farms driving online traffic for the topic, its still a 'hotmess' topic for people. It's like the Amber Heard trial. If CNN could find a way to write an article tying Amber Heard shitting her bed to Palestine, the editor would get a bonus for Christmas.
By the way, many of these articles have comments open at the bottom. Every time someone replies to something, that's new ad revenue. Every refresh to look for new ragebait comments, more clicks for ads. It's why the articles are written in certain ways, to make people fight each other in the comments.
osubuckeye4
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I just think that in any given news cycle there will be a few stories that stick around in the zeitgeist which have little to do with genuine public interest... and more to do with narratives/agendas that are being pushed by the billionaires who own said legacy media outlets and their friends (quid pro quo agreements).
Agree to disagree though.
osubuckeye4
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Why has Robert Kraft spent millions of dollars to run an antisemitism ad during each of the last 4 Super Bowls?
To raise awareness, start a conversation and push an agenda he is passionate about.
a-mart
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Yes but he has no reason to give this any publicity
Only that after all the backlash he donated $2 million dollars to Gaza but that's after the story became big already