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I have no idea where "Macklemore is my boy" came from.
From you!
I'd get cancelled too, like my boy Mack.
Its hard to take your arguments seriously when you don't even remember what you say. Is Mack your boy, or isn't he? You seem to promote his views quite a bit, or was that only an argument point of convenience that you did not actually fully understand?

Yet, a bunch of rich, Jewish guys took offense and colluded
You constantly promote antisemitic stereotypes and I don't think you even realize you're doing it. Macklemore was dropped because he was becoming a lightning rod of controversy. The other musician who was leading the tour was in a lose-lose situation with Macklemore on board and so he was dropped.


and that little massage loving douche chose the money from night 2 over being a morally upstanding Jew
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The fact that you think you know my feelings and can define them is laughable. It is also extremely arrogant. I have a few years on you, and what is conservative today is not the conservatism I was raised upon.
I know only what you say, and your words have led numerous people here to come to the exact same conclusion.

That's really shitty to grasp for the age argument here. That might make more sense if I was a teenager or in my twenties, but 41 years is enough to understand what political terms mean, and further, to understand how they have changed over time. You know I'm well read, Ulf, don't try to pull the age card on me.


But if you honestly think our healthcare system is not morally and fiscally corrupt, then we probably will never meet in the middle. Or, you simply have not had friends or family get ruined by insurance companies due to overwhelming debt. When it happens (this is not an "if"), maybe you can actually feel differently.
I think our healthcare system is atrocious, and I have absolutely had family members, including my wife before she was my wife, get badly burned financially from insurance companies. But socialized medicine is not the answer for this country. It would require far too much overhaul of the entire country, and it is simply too big of an issue to simply legislate it into being. Nor is socialized medicine in countries of our size an efficient system. But I don't have the time or inclination to have this debate.

Regardless, gunning down CEOs in cold blood is not going to get us anywhere. Nor will Bernie Sanders.


And lastly, Palestine. This is a humanity issue for me, but for some reason you think it is a political issue. Thousands of people are dying at the hands of a hard line regime. The powerful are oppressing the weak. I will always disagree with that, regardless of reason and political affiliation. Benevolent leaders are what the world needs.

I was raised by Irish Catholic parents raised by Irish Catholic parents and so on. Both sides. I know why my people came to the US. I know the stories of my family's oppression. I know why my great, great grandfather boarded a ship and what it cost to leave his home. I know that it took him 20 years to pay off the "cost" of that voyage, living little better than a slave, and then live a free man with no prospects. I know that he was segregated and discriminated against, had his name changed ironically to a Yiddish name when he arrived, and treated little more than a vagrant. I watched my grandmother over 100 years later never get an opportunity and wash clothes for rich people because that was all she was ever taught. I learned these things at the feet of angry alcoholics who supported Sinn Fein and the nationalist Irish movement of the 60's/70's mostly through drunken rants. But when in my lifetime, I can walk in ANY area of Belfast as a part of the Republic of Ireland, and the shackles of 800 motherfucking years of British tyranny are finally gone from the island of my forefathers, I can die happy. And Palestine reminds me of Ireland but with more world support. So yeah, I am biased.
As others have said already, Ulf, you really, really do not know what you're talking about on this issue and this will likely be the last comment I ever make to you regarding this. The Irish situation is simply not comparable, not even close. It's apples and baseballs, man. You're seeing what you want to see.

You are an intelligent enough person that if you took off your blinders and really looked at the history, there is no way you would rail against Israel as much as you do and with the cloaked antisemitic tropes you constantly trot out.

The Palestinians have blown every chance they have had at an independent country for 80 years now. They have created the climate they live in through their incessant hatred that is literally forced upon their children. Have you ever seen what education is like for Palestinians? It's all learned and forced hatred of Jews from the time they are in preschool. Israel does no such thing. There will never be peace in that region until Palestinian parents love their children more than they hate Israel.

But let's not debate this anymore. It's pointless.
 
Wow, Ben-Gvir said something really proved your point there lmao. Why don't you provide what little kids are taught and say ("massacre the Jews" for example) or the actual Hamas and their civilian helpers filming themselves massacring everyone they see including babies and raping girls?

It's been established you have no idea what's going on so why do you even try anymore? quote and believe what you want that's not gonna change who and what we're dealing with here and invaded your beloved Ireland as well
Isn't that pretty much the equivalent of taking a cherry picked quote from Matt Gaetz and presenting it as mainstream American thought?
 

What a bunch of rubbish. He's a moron given moronic talking points by a cadre of morons that did not fact check a single thing before claiming it was the scary brown people from the Middle East and Africa.

 
What a bunch of rubbish. He's a moron given moronic talking points by a cadre of morons that did not fact check a single thing before claiming it was the scary brown people from the Middle East and Africa.

Sure thing man, just random students


And now the "students" are "protesting" in Italy and Belgium

Hopefully Ireland is next
 
Sure thing man, just random students


And now the "students" are "protesting" in Italy and Belgium

Hopefully Ireland is next

Yeah, you don't hate Muslims...


And your wish for it to occur in other countries, specifically the one I revere is sick. So glad you finally showed who you really are.
 
Yeah, you don't hate Muslims...

And you fire off information and "facts" from the hip just like The Orange Man.

I don't believe Marty hates Muslims, not one bit. But YOU have zero idea in the universe what it is like to to be under attack or at war with an enemy like this. You want to accuse me of judging from a pedestal, you do the exact same thing. You've never been bombed, never been shot at, never lost friends or family members, so don't you fucking go judging someone who is living this shit.

Seeing kids blown into miscellaneous body parts, along with their toys and stuffed animals, will fucking change you. How dare you judge from YOUR pedestal.
 
Yeah, you don't hate Muslims...


And your wish for it to occur in other countries, specifically the one I revere is sick. So glad you finally showed who you really are.
Your counterpoint does not do what you think it does, it does nothing to disprove what Marty is saying.

And frankly you're absolutely head-in-the-sand blind if you don't think that mass Muslim migration into Europe hasnt caused them a SHITLOAD of unnecessary issues.

I'll be frank with you Ulf, you don't get it. I'll say it loud and clear, one more time, but it'll fall on dead ears. HARDLINE ISLAM IS FUNDAMENTALLY INCOMPATIBLE WITH OUR WESTERN VALUES.

All you have to do is look at countries that are majority Muslim and led by Muslims for evidence they are near universally an oppressive, theocratic mess that flies in the face of nearly everything we consider morally right and decent. There is a reason for that, and it's a feature of the religion, not a bug.
 
Yeah, you don't hate Muslims...


And your wish for it to occur in other countries, specifically the one I revere is sick. So glad you finally showed who you really are.
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Wishing for what to occur? Peaceful protests? Demanding what they deserve from their country they love so much they burn it down with no single flag of it in sight? Which flag have YOU seen may I ask?

Stop being a clown
 
Finally, a legitimate political story!

Indiana Democrat Jaime West reveals how many beers she downed before trainwreck interview​


Indiana Democratic candidate Jaime West admitted on Monday that she downed “three beers” before slurring through a viral, trainwreck interview — in which she pledged to fire all Republicans.

West, a county council hopeful in Fayetteville, argued on “Piers Morgan Uncensored” that she “wasn’t that intoxicated” when she gave a rambling monologue during a local televised forum on Oct. 9.

After host Piers Morgan told West many viewers assumed she was drunk during her dumpster fire of an appearance at the forum, she begrudgingly admitted to having “a Coors Light.”

An incredulous Morgan, sensing the whole truth hasn’t been told, asked West if she in fact really had only had one beer before the disastrous TV appearance.

West then admitted that she, in fact, had “a couple.”

“I was nervous! I was going into a room full of Republicans,” West said in an attempt to justify hitting the sauce.

Morgan then asked West, in a “chance to be completely honest and transparent,” to definitively admit how many drinks she’d downed before the sloshed conversation.

“Alright, three. Three beers. What do you want me to say, man? I had three beers,” West revealed.

The Indiana Democrat insisted she “wasn’t that intoxicated” and still “knew what I’m talking about when it comes to Indiana politics.”

She also told Morgan she was sober while speaking to him and refused to renege when Morgan asked if there was anything she’d take back from her viral interview.

“I say it all the time – I’m not friends with [Republicans]. I don’t like them. They voted for all of this that’s happening to our country,” West said.


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Finally, a legitimate political story!

Indiana Democrat Jaime West reveals how many beers she downed before trainwreck interview​


Indiana Democratic candidate Jaime West admitted on Monday that she downed “three beers” before slurring through a viral, trainwreck interview — in which she pledged to fire all Republicans.

West, a county council hopeful in Fayetteville, argued on “Piers Morgan Uncensored” that she “wasn’t that intoxicated” when she gave a rambling monologue during a local televised forum on Oct. 9.

After host Piers Morgan told West many viewers assumed she was drunk during her dumpster fire of an appearance at the forum, she begrudgingly admitted to having “a Coors Light.”

An incredulous Morgan, sensing the whole truth hasn’t been told, asked West if she in fact really had only had one beer before the disastrous TV appearance.

West then admitted that she, in fact, had “a couple.”

“I was nervous! I was going into a room full of Republicans,” West said in an attempt to justify hitting the sauce.

Morgan then asked West, in a “chance to be completely honest and transparent,” to definitively admit how many drinks she’d downed before the sloshed conversation.

“Alright, three. Three beers. What do you want me to say, man? I had three beers,” West revealed.

The Indiana Democrat insisted she “wasn’t that intoxicated” and still “knew what I’m talking about when it comes to Indiana politics.”

She also told Morgan she was sober while speaking to him and refused to renege when Morgan asked if there was anything she’d take back from her viral interview.

“I say it all the time – I’m not friends with [Republicans]. I don’t like them. They voted for all of this that’s happening to our country,” West said.


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I believe her. She just didn't tell us what size the beers were
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I believe her. She just didn't tell us what size the beers were
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There is a whisky bar in Prague where you can have single malts inside a 550 year old tower that once was part of the old walls. One hour later, I was scarfing down a shawarma.
 
And you fire off information and "facts" from the hip just like The Orange Man.

I don't believe Marty hates Muslims, not one bit. But YOU have zero idea in the universe what it is like to to be under attack or at war with an enemy like this. You want to accuse me of judging from a pedestal, you do the exact same thing. You've never been bombed, never been shot at, never lost friends or family members, so don't you fucking go judging someone who is living this shit.

Seeing kids blown into miscellaneous body parts, along with their toys and stuffed animals, will fucking change you. How dare you judge from YOUR pedestal.
The funny thing is I have a Muslim friend that we're texting almost daily with funny memes and videos and he was the one who sent me this

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So yeah I hate certain type of Muslims who'd throw me to the river or the sea the first chance they get, but Ulf knows me better than anyone lmao
 
The funny thing is I have a Muslim friend that we're texting almost daily with funny memes and videos and he was the one who sent me this

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So yeah I hate certain type of Muslims who'd throw me to the river or the sea the first chance they get, but Ulf knows me better than anyone lmao
He probably thinks your Muslim friend is brainwashed by Israel or something and that Israeli Muslims live like 16th century Irish.
 
The funny thing is I have a Muslim friend that we're texting almost daily with funny memes and videos and he was the one who sent me this

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So yeah I hate certain type of Muslims who'd throw me to the river or the sea the first chance they get, but Ulf knows me better than anyone lmao
I think Ulf genuinely does not understand the difference. However, the ignorance is seemingly self imposed, because Ulf is not an idiot.
 
The funny thing is I have a Muslim friend that we're texting almost daily with funny memes and videos and he was the one who sent me this

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So yeah I hate certain type of Muslims who'd throw me to the river or the sea the first chance they get, but Ulf knows me better than anyone lmao
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