Originally posted by: juicehead666
Date: April 02, 2008 at 10:43 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/ready-for-a-good-laugh-rank-the-top-10-hws-in-the-ufc.480/
Nick_Havok said:
juicehead666 said:
Nick_Havok said:
LOL! The thought of even naming ten UFC heavyweights that are worth a turd makes me laugh.
Let's see. Since the UFC ran off 3 of their top 4 heavys lets see what we can make due with here. It's going to be ugly though.
1. Nog
2. Mir
3. Herring
4. Vera
5. Kongo
6. O'Brien
7. Werdum
8. Gonzaga
9. Lesnar
10. Sanchez
God damn! That is horrendous!
I have never seen a more complete list of B-level fighters in my life! LOL!
Simply put. That division SUCKS!
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Nick, I usually leave you alone because we have the same first name, but I am gonna jump all over your $hit here....Jake Obrien at 6???????????? The guy is the human cure for insomnia. You are absolutely insane if you think Jake could beat any of the fighters you listed behind him. Well, maybe sanchez.LOL! He beat Herring by laying on him and Herring being to out of shape to do anything about it. He should be in the WEC.
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Was this a ranking of the best fighters or a popularity contest?
O'Brien is 3-1 in the UFC.
Werdum is 1-1.
Gonzaga has lost his last two.
Lesnar does not even have a victory yet.
I could not rank those guys ahead of a fighter who actually wins.
And whats he suppose to do, go to the WEC and be the lone HW there taking on all comers? They don't even have a HW division!
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Nick, just want to say this first, this is a friendly jab at you, not trying to pick a fight with you for real. I know its hard to tell on the internet, but I almost always keep things civil. No animosity here, I respect your opinion.
That being said, your CRAZY!!!
first off, we are ranking the heavyweights in the UFC. Ranks aren't strictly about records. You have to watch the fighters and know their strengths and weaknesses. And sometimes losses can mean more than wins, depending on how the fight goes down.
Jake is 3-1 in the UFC, his first two wins were against nobodys, a 6-10 fighter and a 2-2 fighter. He beat Herring, but Heath was unmotivated and out of shape, i do not think he could duplicate his effort. And then he was smashed by a less than optimal Arlovski. Jake is not a top tier fighter, he has shown good wrestling, rudamentary striking and absolutely horrible BJJ. And the WEC crack was just to say that he needs to step down in competition, i know they don't have a HW division.
Werdum is 1-1, but a horrible loss to Arlovski and a dominating win over Gonzaga aside, as an educated MMA fan, you HAVE to know that Werdum is heads above Jake, right?? Please tell me you can see the difference in competition and sheer skill between the two.Werdum has BJJ world titles, has fought some of the best fighters in the world and won. Gonzaga 2x, Tom Erikson, Roman Zentsov, Sergei Kharitonov, Alistair Overeem, Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira, and Aleksander Emelianenko. His only losses were too Big Nog in an awesome fight and a split decision loss to Sergei. Werdum is arguably a top 5 HW in the WORLD, let alone the UFC.
Lesnar is a subjective opinion, The potential he shows seems to be way superior to what Jake is capable of, but since he is only fighting twice a year it is almost impossible to see where he really stands, so although I rank him higher, I can't argue your logic there.
Eddie Sanchez, scarily enough, has shown himself to be quite gritty and tough. He has decent hands for a man his size, and showed alot of heart to climb in the ring with Crocop, who at the time was considered the second best HW in the world. Against Soa Palelei, he showed a nice striking game, even though Soa didn't mount much of a defense. All that being said, Eddie competition was no better than Jake's except for his loss to CC, so I guess I can't logically argue him ahead of Jake either, except i just see more talent in Eddie than I do Jake.
ok, there is my rant. I look forward to your rebuttal.
