Ronda Rousey vs. "Cyborg" Justino

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: Oldwardog
Date: September 01, 2015 at 02:17 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/ronda-rousey-vs-cyborg-justino.66779/

Problem with using those pics is Tate is actually pretty small for a 135er and could most likely make 125, if there was a class for it, Cris is naturally a big woman and I mean big as in her shoulder girdle, back width, rib cage depth and other measures of natural size as well as taller by close to 3 inches.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: crashthecrease
Date: September 01, 2015 at 02:18 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/ronda-rousey-vs-cyborg-justino.66779/

Cage rattler said:
Yes I tune into the Joe (Tim Sylvia is the best striker in MMa) Rogan for all my sensible MMA info.
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Just give up buddy. You're lost in this thread that you created. Your last post sealed the deal.
This is about Rousey, what she said and in the context she said it. You just have to listen to her say it to get an idea what's going on.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: Cage rattler
Date: September 01, 2015 at 02:24 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/ronda-rousey-vs-cyborg-justino.66779/

Isn't it also about her "wanting"Cyborg but being unwilling to step up for the fight buddy?
Or is that the thing you are so determined not to talk about?

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: crashthecrease
Date: September 01, 2015 at 02:30 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/ronda-rousey-vs-cyborg-justino.66779/

Cage rattler said:
Isn't it also about her "wanting"Cyborg but being unwilling to step up for the fight buddy?
Or is that the thing you are so determined not to talk about?
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I've talked about those two fighting before.. She is the one in the UFC. She is the biggest star. She is the one who has the UFC belt. She fights at 135. She takes that fight the second Cyborg makes the weight.
When you're the biggest star in the sport and the champion you don't bend over backwards for people who aren't in the promotion and who have been busted for cheating.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: Cage rattler
Date: September 01, 2015 at 02:32 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/ronda-rousey-vs-cyborg-justino.66779/

So Werdum will come down to fight Jones?

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: crashthecrease
Date: September 01, 2015 at 02:34 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/ronda-rousey-vs-cyborg-justino.66779/

Cage rattler said:
So Werdum will come down to fight Jones?
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Apples and oranges but atleast Werdum is a UFC champion and fighting in the UFC.. Cyborg can't say the same.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: redd1
Date: September 01, 2015 at 02:56 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/ronda-rousey-vs-cyborg-justino.66779/

I don't understand how people can't get the concept that there is no 145 women's division in the UFC therefore it makes zero sense to have a women's fight at 145, and that complaining that the women's 135 champ won't take a fight at 145 is the dumbest most petty s--- known to man.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: Cage rattler
Date: September 01, 2015 at 02:56 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/ronda-rousey-vs-cyborg-justino.66779/

Apples to oranges?
Is that something you say to make yourself feel less wrong?
If she wants to fight Cyborg common sense says the fight would be at Cyborgs weight or a catch weight in between.
Do you expect that Jones would fight Werdum or Cain or Fedor at 205?
Would you expect Andy or Weidman to go down to WW to fight GSP?
Why does Rousey expect something nobody else does?

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: Jak
Date: September 01, 2015 at 02:59 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/ronda-rousey-vs-cyborg-justino.66779/

Cage rattler said:
Do you expect that Jones would fight Werdum or Cain or Fedor at 205?
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I would expect Jon Jones to fight Daniel Cormier at 205.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: BRF
Date: September 01, 2015 at 03:01 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/ronda-rousey-vs-cyborg-justino.66779/

No offense Cage rattler (if that is even your real name
) but you've got to be one of the most annoying posters on this board, not only are you such a bigot that any other point of view on an issue is rendered moot to you instantaneously because you feel that you are always right about everything and your opinion should be the concensus, but you're also very rude.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: BowserGOAT
Date: September 01, 2015 at 03:03 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/ronda-rousey-vs-cyborg-justino.66779/

please someone just beat Honda so we can move on to reality

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: crashthecrease
Date: September 01, 2015 at 03:14 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/ronda-rousey-vs-cyborg-justino.66779/

Cage rattler said:
Apples to oranges?
Is that something you say to make yourself feel less wrong?
If she wants to fight Cyborg common sense says the fight would be at Cyborgs weight or a catch weight in between.
Do you expect that Jones would fight Werdum or Cain or Fedor at 205?
Would you expect Andy or Weidman to go down to WW to fight GSP?
Why does Rousey expect something nobody else does?
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Less wrong?
Rousey said she fights best when she weighs in at 135 pounds. Why would she as the champion go up and fight somebody who isn't a UFC champion or even a UFC fighter at a disadvantage in weight?
I wouldn't expect anyone to move up or down.. Fight at where you're the best. GSP fighting at 185 against Anderson Silva made little to no sense for GSP.. He was at a huge size disadvantage and that's why that fight never happened.
You keep mentioning Jones vs Werdum.. Jones isn't even fighting right now and Werdum hasn't defended his belt.. That fight is nowhere near being close to happening or anyone even calling for that fight.
The only reason why Rousey ever fought at 145 pounds or maybe it was 150 was because it was on a couple days notice.. She walks around at 148-150 pounds.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: Jak
Date: September 01, 2015 at 03:19 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/ronda-rousey-vs-cyborg-justino.66779/

BRF said:
No offense Cage rattler (if that is even your real name
) .
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There are just some classic responses.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: redstar
Date: September 01, 2015 at 03:47 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/ronda-rousey-vs-cyborg-justino.66779/

crashthecrease said:
Less wrong?
Rousey said she fights best when she weighs in at 135 pounds. Why would she as the champion go up and fight somebody who isn't a UFC champion or even a UFC fighter at a disadvantage in weight?
I wouldn't expect anyone to move up or down.. Fight at where you're the best. GSP fighting at 185 against Anderson Silva made little to no sense for GSP.. He was at a huge size disadvantage and that's why that fight never happened.
You keep mentioning Jones vs Werdum.. Jones isn't even fighting right now and Werdum hasn't defended his belt.. That fight is nowhere near being close to happening or anyone even calling for that fight.
The only reason why Rousey ever fought at 145 pounds or maybe it was 150 was because it was on a couple days notice.. She walks around at 148-150 pounds.
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I think you are 100% correct on every point.
I do think she might fight out of her weight class, against a non-signed fighter though.
I really think Ronda is someone very true to her ideals. She has no respect for Cyroid. She feels (and I agree with her) Cyroid has dishonored & devalued her profession & wmma as a whole.
If another fighter who Ronda respected (Gina, even Laila Ali), wanted a go, RR would be happy to oblige.
She ain't letting Cyroid get that payday by taking any shortcuts (catchweight etc).
A lot of people will say "It was one test in 2011", Yeah, well if you choose to believe it was a one time thing, Buhdda bless you.
People inside any industry know the dirt outsiders don't.
Do you think honest cops are shocked when a video surfaces of one of their colleagues doing something very wrong?
They know who the scumbags are.
Same in any business.
How many fighters (GSP/Brian Stann) who are loved/respected have tried to diplomatically allude to the problem of fellow fighters cheating.
The fighters know who is good/deserving, & who is a lying pos.
They just don't want to rat.
If someone just wants to see the fight because you want to, then I'm with you 100%, I do too.
Don't pretend its Ronda ducking though, cause it ain't.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: Cage rattler
Date: September 01, 2015 at 03:55 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/ronda-rousey-vs-cyborg-justino.66779/

crashthecrease said:
Less wrong?
Rousey said she fights best when she weighs in at 135 pounds. Why would she as the champion go up and fight somebody who isn't a UFC champion or even a UFC fighter at a disadvantage in weight?
I wouldn't expect anyone to move up or down.. Fight at where you're the best. GSP fighting at 185 against Anderson Silva made little to no sense for GSP.. He was at a huge size disadvantage and that's why that fight never happened.
You keep mentioning Jones vs Werdum.. Jones isn't even fighting right now and Werdum hasn't defended his belt.. That fight is nowhere near being close to happening or anyone even calling for that fight.
The only reason why Rousey ever fought at 145 pounds or maybe it was 150 was because it was on a couple days notice.. She walks around at 148-150 pounds.
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Rousey is the one who says she wants the cyborg fight. If she needs to fight Cyborg in order to have her career validated then I would say she would be willing to go up. In fact not being willing to go up pretty much proves that she does not want the fight.
If you don't expect anyone to move up or down then how do you expect these super fights to happen?
You have no idea how GSP feels about a fight with Andy or Weidman or why the fight never happened. I can guarantee you that GSP does not expect a 185er to cut to175 to fight him. Because that would be stupid.
Werdum has been asking for Jones Superfight. But he us not talking about cutting to 205 for it. Because that would stupid.
Just as stupid as Rousey asking Cyborg to cut to 135.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: Cage rattler
Date: September 01, 2015 at 03:56 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/ronda-rousey-vs-cyborg-justino.66779/

Jak said:
There are just some classic responses.
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It's the winky that really puts it over the top.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: Sedulous
Date: September 01, 2015 at 03:56 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/ronda-rousey-vs-cyborg-justino.66779/

Cage rattler said:
“It just seems unfinished – my career, there’s more left to do – I don’t feel like I’m done yet,” Rousey said. “With the Olympics it just like, you win an Olympic gold medal and you’re done. With the UFC, when am I really done? I’m not. It feels unfinished still. (The ‘Cyborg’ fight) definitely would (help).”
Ronda you never an Olympic gold medal. You won a bronze which is fantastic, but you did not win a gold. The gold went to Masae Ueno who won a pair of Olympic golds and a pair of World championship at 70kg. She is a Hall of Fame Judoka. You were pretty good.
Odd that you could go to the Olympics at 70 kgs but you refuse to meet cyborg there for an mma match.
By the way, the norm for super fights is either for the little guy to go up like by penn going up to fight gap, or a catch weight like Fedor and hendo fighting at 220 or whatever it was.
Nobody is talking about Jon Jones coming back and having werdum come down to 205 to fight him.
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Where did she say she won a gold medal?

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: Cage rattler
Date: September 01, 2015 at 03:57 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/ronda-rousey-vs-cyborg-justino.66779/

Sedulous said:
Where did she say she won a gold medal?
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She didn't say it. She inferred it.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: BowserGOAT
Date: September 01, 2015 at 03:58 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/ronda-rousey-vs-cyborg-justino.66779/

Sedulous said:
Where did she say she won a gold medal?
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Thought she placed 4th and they award 3th and 4th both bronzes

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: Sedulous
Date: September 01, 2015 at 04:03 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/ronda-rousey-vs-cyborg-justino.66779/

Cage rattler said:
She didn't say it. She inferred it.
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No she didn't. She said "
With the Olympics it just like, you win an Olympic gold medal and you’re done
"
.
There is no inference there at all. Not even out of context does she infer that. She's making a statement about the feeling of finality that can come with winning a gold medal. Her meaning in context was that if she had won a gold medal, she probably wouldn't have pursued MMA. It was her not accomplishing that goal that gave her to drive to pursue MMA. How willing you are to be irresponsible with other people's words says a lot about you.