Roy Nelson's UFC Rank

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Originally posted by: EAJames
Date: December 03, 2009 at 10:55 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/roy-nelsons-ufc-rank.19953/

Although it's not until Saturday night, most fan's pre-TUF predicted winner Roy Nelson has to be considered the favorite again to win his contract fight live on Spike. However, unlike most TUF victors, Nelson already boasts a 13-4 MMA record, having tangled with some of the top heavyweights in the sport. So this begs the question, if Roy Nelson wins a contract Saturday night, where exactly does 'Big Country' fall into the UFC's heavyweight landscape?
Here's my personal opinion. Nelson is impressive, regardless of the lack of physical fighter apperance, or even his often arrogant comments, this guy already deserved to be in the UFC. Sitting at 3-0 in TUF and 13-4 overall, Nelson hasn't tastes defeated very often. Infact, 3 of his 4 losses were riddled with controversy. A questionable standup in the Arlovski fight while Roy was in side control on top of a seemingly baffled Andre, or two decision losses to Monson and Rothwell which could have gone either way. When push comes to shove, The moon belly belongs in this solar system.
So pending a Nelson victory, where does he fit in? I believe he's instantly on a B level amongst other heavyweights like Kongo, Rothwell, Cro Cop, Gonzaga, etc. There are honestly very few heavyweights I see dominating Big Country inside the UFC, Cain, Brock, Nog, perhaps Carwin or Mir, but the list is short indeed.
Where do you guys see Roy Nelson fitting in and are you even interested in his potential addition to the roster?
 
Originally posted by: amercy
Date: December 03, 2009 at 12:24 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/roy-nelsons-ufc-rank.19953/

he should probably just start out like any other TUF winner, he's not the most common name although alot more people will know him now, i think maybe a fight with someone on the same level as Hardonk or someone to that nature would be fitting...
 
Originally posted by: Fedorfan
Date: December 03, 2009 at 12:50 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/roy-nelsons-ufc-rank.19953/

I think Roy is probably a top 10 HW in the UFC and could beat probably 80% of the top UFC HW's IMO
 
Originally posted by: Skanx
Date: December 05, 2009 at 09:00 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/roy-nelsons-ufc-rank.19953/

I'd say hes top 15 in the UFC and thats just because HW is the weakest division. His last loses were to Jeff Monson and Andrei Arlovski.
Brock Lesnar
Big Nog
Frank Mir
Junior Dos Santos
Cheick Kongo
Shane Carwin
Gabriel Gonzaga
Cain Velasquez
Stefan Struve
Todd Duffee
Mike Russow
even Paul Buentello
are ahead of Roy Nelson in my opinion. Until Nelson actually gets a UFC fight, after Schaub, under his belt he can't be ranked top 10, as other HWs already fighting in the UFC have accomplished more due to just having more opportunity in the UFC I think a Struve/Nelson fight would be a good style match up and could boost either fighters in ranking.
 
Originally posted by: Fedorfan
Date: December 05, 2009 at 09:39 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/roy-nelsons-ufc-rank.19953/

Skanx said:
I'd say hes top 15 in the UFC and thats just because HW is the weakest division. His last loses were to Jeff Monson and Andrei Arlovski.
Brock Lesnar
Big Nog
Frank Mir
Junior Dos Santos
Cheick Kongo
Shane Carwin
Gabriel Gonzaga
Cain Velasquez
Stefan Struve
Todd Duffee
Mike Russow
even Paul Buentello
are ahead of Roy Nelson in my opinion. Until Nelson actually gets a UFC fight, after Schaub, under his belt he can't be ranked top 10, as other HWs already fighting in the UFC have accomplished more due to just having more opportunity in the UFC I think a Struve/Nelson fight would be a good style match up and could boost either fighters in ranking.
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LOL. Roy subs Kongo, Ko's Struve, subs russow, buentello, and todd duffee noone knows what he can do. So your definately not giving Roy enough credit IMO.
 
Originally posted by: Skanx
Date: December 05, 2009 at 09:59 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/roy-nelsons-ufc-rank.19953/

Rankings arn't based on a fighters skills, they're based on the fighter's recent performance. Even though I think he beat Monson, he still loss his last two fights to ex-UFC fighters. Ill use Buentello as an example since I think hes ranked lowest on the list. He's 6-1 in his last 7 fights in the past 3 yrs, non-being unknown fighters. His last loss to a high ranking Overeem. While Nelson has gone 7-4 in the last 3 yrs. The best win being against Brad Imes or Fabiano Scherner. By these standards I feel Buentello has done a lot more and fought tougher fights in recent times. Do I think Nelson beats Buentello? Most likely, but until he actually fights some ranked HWs and wins you can't rank him up there yet.
 
Originally posted by: Fedorfan
Date: December 05, 2009 at 05:26 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/roy-nelsons-ufc-rank.19953/

Skanx said:
Rankings arn't based on a fighters skills, they're based on the fighter's recent performance. Even though I think he beat Monson, he still loss his last two fights to ex-UFC fighters. Ill use Buentello as an example since I think hes ranked lowest on the list. He's 6-1 in his last 7 fights in the past 3 yrs, non-being unknown fighters. His last loss to a high ranking Overeem. While Nelson has gone 7-4 in the last 3 yrs. The best win being against Brad Imes or Fabiano Scherner. By these standards I feel Buentello has done a lot more and fought tougher fights in recent times. Do I think Nelson beats Buentello? Most likely, but until he actually fights some ranked HWs and wins you can't rank him up there yet.
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don't worry, in a year from now, he'll be a top 5 HW imo if he keeps winning and live up to his potential in everyone's rankings. I think he's gonna be a lot better addition to the HW UFC roster than most people give him credit for
 
Originally posted by: Skanx
Date: December 05, 2009 at 05:34 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/roy-nelsons-ufc-rank.19953/

Top 5?!?! I don't know about that. He'll for surely make it into the Top 10, but those top five HW are on another level right now. You think he can beat Lesnar, Mir, Big Nog, Cain Velasquez, or Shane Carwin. I don't see it happening.
 
Originally posted by: Fedorfan
Date: December 06, 2009 at 12:32 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/roy-nelsons-ufc-rank.19953/

Skanx said:
Top 5?!?! I don't know about that. He'll for surely make it into the Top 10, but those top five HW are on another level right now. You think he can beat Lesnar, Mir, Big Nog, Cain Velasquez, or Shane Carwin. I don't see it happening.
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out of those, I can see him beating Mir and possibly Cain. He looked great tonight and showed why he deserves to be in the UFC. I can't wait to see who they are gonna match his up with. He's hard for people to match up. He is a black belt in BJJ, crazy flexible, can knock out people, takes a good punch, and weighs 265lb and can do a backflip(proving his athleticsim). Style's makes match-ups and he matches up very well against most. A Wrestler is gonna take him to the ground and then what? Stay in his guard and possibly get submitted? A striker is gonna exchange with him like Brandon did and possibly get KO'd? Hard to match up with him, which is why I think he's gonna do great in the UFC
 
Originally posted by: TigerUpperCut
Date: December 06, 2009 at 01:08 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/roy-nelsons-ufc-rank.19953/

i wanna see roy on his back
 
Originally posted by: Skanx
Date: December 06, 2009 at 01:47 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/roy-nelsons-ufc-rank.19953/

TigerUpperCut said:
i wanna see roy on his back
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Cain would for surely put him there.
 
Originally posted by: Fedorfan
Date: December 06, 2009 at 02:10 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/roy-nelsons-ufc-rank.19953/

TigerUpperCut said:
i wanna see roy on his back
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on facebook today I just watched the 2003 grappler quest where Frank Mir vs Roy Nelson faced off at Marc Laimon's gym and Roy was on his back several times against a very jacked Frank Mir and he ended up beating him and doing very good, so I'm not worried at all about Roy on his back, he's good from all position IMO.
 
Originally posted by: RyannVonDoom
Date: December 06, 2009 at 08:20 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/roy-nelsons-ufc-rank.19953/

Skanx said:
Rankings arn't based on a fighters skills, they're based on the fighter's recent performance. Even though I think he beat Monson, he still loss his last two fights to ex-UFC fighters. Ill use Buentello as an example since I think hes ranked lowest on the list. He's 6-1 in his last 7 fights in the past 3 yrs, non-being unknown fighters. His last loss to a high ranking Overeem. While Nelson has gone 7-4 in the last 3 yrs. The best win being against Brad Imes or Fabiano Scherner. By these standards I feel Buentello has done a lot more and fought tougher fights in recent times. Do I think Nelson beats Buentello? Most likely, but until he actually fights some ranked HWs and wins you can't rank him up there yet.
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A high ranking Overeem? You just f---ed over your Comment of "rankings aren't based on a fighters skills, they're based on the fighter's recent performance." Where do you justify Hoidereem being a "high ranking" HW fighter?
 
Originally posted by: wtran64
Date: December 06, 2009 at 09:15 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/roy-nelsons-ufc-rank.19953/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2dj5xMeXybs
 
Originally posted by: paidi
Date: December 11, 2009 at 08:06 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/roy-nelsons-ufc-rank.19953/

Why not throw him in with rothwell again. I think he can be competitive but will always lose that all important fight that could make him a contender. Crocop or Gonzaga would be others that come to mind. Someone said in their post that he'd sub Kongo, I think Kongo would give Roy a serious canvas nap.
 
Originally posted by: Ph1sh
Date: December 11, 2009 at 02:57 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/roy-nelsons-ufc-rank.19953/

RyannVonDoom said:
Skanx said:
Rankings arn't based on a fighters skills, they're based on the fighter's recent performance. Even though I think he beat Monson, he still loss his last two fights to ex-UFC fighters. Ill use Buentello as an example since I think hes ranked lowest on the list. He's 6-1 in his last 7 fights in the past 3 yrs, non-being unknown fighters. His last loss to a high ranking Overeem. While Nelson has gone 7-4 in the last 3 yrs. The best win being against Brad Imes or Fabiano Scherner. By these standards I feel Buentello has done a lot more and fought tougher fights in recent times. Do I think Nelson beats Buentello? Most likely, but until he actually fights some ranked HWs and wins you can't rank him up there yet.
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A high ranking Overeem? You just f**ked over your Comment of "rankings aren't based on a fighters skills, they're based on the fighter's recent performance." Where do you justify Hoidereem being a "high ranking" HW fighter?
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He may not be too highly ranked overall, but compared to Brad Imes, I see his point
 
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