Sengoku (9/23) and Strikeforce (9/25)
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il definitely be getting something on sengoku if the lines are good. will be interested to see what antonio silva opens at as he is a stud. also like thompson and doerksen. will be staying away from the main event as theres too much unknown about these two fighters mma ability. a word of advice, make sure you are taking into account the japanese judges with any wagers your placing against the local fighters. they can be very very biased.
anyone analysed the strikeforce card.
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elfudge35 said:
nope, nothing, and there are a number of fights on Sengoku that I would like to put money on if the odds were close, oh well
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Like who and why?
That's why I started this thread after all, to get people's input and opinions.
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sorry this is after the fact, but I had gone to bed, I personally thought Takimoto, Antonio Silva, Doerkson and Blanco were near locks, probably would have bet them anything better than -400
Most of these guys are so unknown or mediocre that betting on these fights for me would be like playing the lottery. I'm going to let this one pass. I think the best thing to do at this point to look ahead at DREAM 11 & WEC 43, and know what you want do to for Neer/Tibau, Struve/Gormley, and Al-Hassan/Kingsbury (I wonder how his arm is).
Actually, Ray hasn't fought in a while, I think he trains/teaches/works out of Xtreme couture as well, so he's aware of the MMA game. Tons of experience, but not sure theres much value at -285 afterall, I've never seen him on the ground or wrestle, so hard judgement.
But standup, he'll own.
GuidaClayAllDay said:
Most of these guys are so unknown or mediocre that betting on these fights for me would be like playing the lottery. I'm going to let this one pass. I think the best thing to do at this point to look ahead at DREAM 11 & WEC 43, and know what you want do to for Neer/Tibau, Struve/Gormley, and Al-Hassan/Kingsbury (I wonder how his arm is).
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What are you thinking about Neer/Tibau, Struve/Gormley, and Al-Hassan/Kingsbury?
I like Neer as the underdog against Tibau. +170 is pretty good. Neer's a good fighter and I think Tibau is fairly mediocre. Tibau is just big and Neer is one of the larger LWs.
I need to look more into gormley, and I need to refresh myself of Kingsbury...I think I haven't seen him win, but Al-Hassan's wrestling looked horrible against Cantwell (also I don't like putting much weight on TUF fights since fighters seem to improve greatly since their TUF appearance)
Tibau/Neer is a tough one to call IMO, at first glance Tibau should be able outgrapple Neer...but Neer won't give up until the end, he may be able to land some nice punches. The first line out right now isn't that appealing, I would like them both at better prices...still need to look at this one a little more too.
GuidaClayAllDay said:
I need to look more into gormley, and I need to refresh myself of Kingsbury...I think I haven't seen him win, but Al-Hassan's wrestling looked horrible against Cantwell (also I don't like putting much weight on TUF fights since fighters seem to improve greatly since their TUF appearance)
Tibau/Neer is a tough one to call IMO, at first glance Tibau should be able outgrapple Neer...but Neer won't give up until the end, he may be able to land some nice punches. The first line out right now isn't that appealing, I would like them both at better prices...still need to look at this one a little more too.
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Keep in mind that 5 of Al-Hassan's 7 wins have come by sub, so his ground game may be better than it looked against Cantwell. Also, I really don't remember much about Kingsbury and would need to try to go back and see what I can find on him, but I don't think he's on Cantwell's level either. After all, he lost to Tom Lawlor at the TUF Finale.
I say Al-Hassan via Superior Afro.
Ray Sefo has virtually no ground game so I'd think twice before betting on him. His stand-up is great but he's faded having lost his last 6-7 fights in K-1. He's taken a lot of punishment in K-1 and used to have the most solid chin you'll ever see but he's been knocked out by a jab (against Schilt) and hasn't been the same since. If he keeps it standing he'll be fine though
That's true , also Sefo has been coaching at Xtreme Couture for a while and training with a gym full of wrestlers , he must have some sort of takedown defense/sprawl . Considering his opponent isn't know for great ground skills and will probably have hard time taking Sefo down even if he tries to I think Sefo wins this atleast 80 % of the time , no way he gets knocked out . Even at this age he can still take punishment and his most recent losses in K-1 have been due to a lot of heavy kicks to his legs mixed with punches . I dare Jordan trying kicking him tho , he will be out cold very soon if he tries to . With the small gloves it wont take a lot for Sefo to knock him out in my opinion .