Originally posted by: CopperHeart Date: September 08, 2014 at 04:37 PM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/should-cornermen-coaches-be-quiet-so-as-to-not-disturb-judges.63903/
Commission: Loud coaching might be "corner interference"
http://mmajunkie.com/2014/09/mohega...ns-warning-to-patricky-freire-at-bellator-123
Do you agree?
Originally posted by: Reckin007 Date: September 08, 2014 at 05:23 PM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/should-cornermen-coaches-be-quiet-so-as-to-not-disturb-judges.63903/
Originally posted by: Sapper Date: September 08, 2014 at 05:29 PM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/should-cornermen-coaches-be-quiet-so-as-to-not-disturb-judges.63903/
Maybe Bellator should not fight at Indian Casino's and tell the MTDAR to hire judges who know what the f--- they are doing....This is one of the dumbest things I have heard lately about how corner men should act...And coming from an "AC" it is even more of a joke.
Originally posted by: newERA Date: September 08, 2014 at 06:04 PM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/should-cornermen-coaches-be-quiet-so-as-to-not-disturb-judges.63903/
Originally posted by: CopperHeart Date: September 08, 2014 at 06:12 PM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/should-cornermen-coaches-be-quiet-so-as-to-not-disturb-judges.63903/
newERA said:
What exactly do judges do? Do they keep a tally going or perform some sort of calculations that require concentration?
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Some do keep tallies but that's what tablets or notepads are for.
Originally posted by: roofer67 Date: September 08, 2014 at 07:07 PM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/should-cornermen-coaches-be-quiet-so-as-to-not-disturb-judges.63903/
This is as ridiculous as it gets. But maybe it makes sense now that I think about it. All these horrible decisions that we get maybe the judges are listening to the fight instead of watching it.
Originally posted by: darcebandit Date: September 08, 2014 at 08:00 PM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/should-cornermen-coaches-be-quiet-so-as-to-not-disturb-judges.63903/
Judges should not be in the arena imo
Should be outside the arena in a truck where between rounds they can bring up replays that they want, all without commentary and just the in-cage sounds available. They should have a clear picture of which fighter is which because I genuinely believe the person who scored the Guillard vs Varner fight 30-27 for Guillard must have thought Guillard was the white guy.
Originally posted by: CopperHeart Date: September 08, 2014 at 08:05 PM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/should-cornermen-coaches-be-quiet-so-as-to-not-disturb-judges.63903/
darcebandit said:
Judges should not be in the arena imo
Should be outside the arena in a truck where between rounds they can bring up replays that they want, all without commentary and just the in-cage sounds available. They should have a clear picture of which fighter is which because I genuinely believe the person who scored the Guillard vs Varner fight 30-27 for Guillard must have thought Guillard was the white guy.
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Most venues don't have that kind of budget.
Originally posted by: Magson13 Date: September 08, 2014 at 08:19 PM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/should-cornermen-coaches-be-quiet-so-as-to-not-disturb-judges.63903/
CopperHeart said:
darcebandit said:
Judges should not be in the arena imo
Should be outside the arena in a truck where between rounds they can bring up replays that they want, all without commentary and just the in-cage sounds available. They should have a clear picture of which fighter is which because I genuinely believe the person who scored the Guillard vs Varner fight 30-27 for Guillard must have thought Guillard was the white guy.
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Most venues don't have that kind of budget.
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They have the budget to have the cameras showing what's happening on a big screen in the venue, but don't have a budget to provide a small area with a screen for judges to watch the exact same thing as what's already being shown on the screen in the general seating area?
Originally posted by: CopperHeart Date: September 08, 2014 at 08:24 PM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/should-cornermen-coaches-be-quiet-so-as-to-not-disturb-judges.63903/
Magson13 said:
They have the budget to have the cameras showing what's happening on a big screen in the venue, but don't have a budget to provide a small area with a screen for judges to watch the exact same thing as what's already being shown on the screen in the general seating area?
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I said
most
venues.
Originally posted by: DJFilthyRich Date: September 08, 2014 at 08:29 PM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/should-cornermen-coaches-be-quiet-so-as-to-not-disturb-judges.63903/
Doesn't make sense. How does Patricky, I'm assuming, coaching in Portuguese going to affect the judges? He could be saying "You're not a Pitbull You're a chihuahua!" and the judges wouldn't know.
Originally posted by: CopperHeart Date: September 08, 2014 at 08:32 PM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/should-cornermen-coaches-be-quiet-so-as-to-not-disturb-judges.63903/
DJFilthyRich said:
Doesn't make sense. How does Patricky, I'm assuming, coaching in Portuguese going to affect the judges? He could be saying "You're not a Pitbull You're a chihuahua!" and the judges wouldn't know.
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They thought it was distracting.
Originally posted by: Sodomizer Date: September 08, 2014 at 08:41 PM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/should-cornermen-coaches-be-quiet-so-as-to-not-disturb-judges.63903/
Originally posted by: darcebandit Date: September 08, 2014 at 08:50 PM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/should-cornermen-coaches-be-quiet-so-as-to-not-disturb-judges.63903/
CopperHeart said:
Most venues don't have that kind of budget.
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Most venues or most organizations? Because I assume it would be an expense of the athletic commission or the organization rather than the venue. Also not having hawkeye doesn't stop the WTA and ATP tennis tours using it just because the lower leagues can't afford it.
Originally posted by: CopperHeart Date: September 08, 2014 at 09:16 PM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/should-cornermen-coaches-be-quiet-so-as-to-not-disturb-judges.63903/
darcebandit said:
Most venues or most organizations?
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Both.
The UFC, Bellator, WSoF and a handful of others are the exception as far as a "legitimate" combination of venue + promotion.
Originally posted by: BRF Date: September 08, 2014 at 09:22 PM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/should-cornermen-coaches-be-quiet-so-as-to-not-disturb-judges.63903/
Originally posted by: Spidy Date: September 08, 2014 at 09:33 PM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/should-cornermen-coaches-be-quiet-so-as-to-not-disturb-judges.63903/
So...is that how Diego Sanchez gets all those questionable decisions? If that's the case then its time to shut em down. Muzzles for everyone. Including Joe Rogan
Originally posted by: mmablaster Date: September 08, 2014 at 09:43 PM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/should-cornermen-coaches-be-quiet-so-as-to-not-disturb-judges.63903/
There are a couple old Pride fights where I believe Coleman is in Randleman's corner. Arena so quiet that you can here a pin drop, then Coleman just screaming. Awesome.
Originally posted by: darcebandit Date: September 08, 2014 at 09:47 PM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/should-cornermen-coaches-be-quiet-so-as-to-not-disturb-judges.63903/
CopperHeart said:
Both.
The UFC, Bellator, WSoF and a handful of others are the exception as far as a "legitimate" combination of venue + promotion.
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I don't see it being an issue for only the big organizations to have this. The big orgs have several other things the smaller orgs don't have
Originally posted by: DangerZone Date: September 09, 2014 at 12:27 AM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/should-cornermen-coaches-be-quiet-so-as-to-not-disturb-judges.63903/
noise cancelling headphones? I'm sure the screaming disrupts them in some shape or form, but corner-men are an integral part of how combat sports has evolved.
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There are a couple old Pride fights where I believe Coleman is in Randleman's corner. Arena so quiet that you can here a pin drop, then Coleman just screaming. Awesome.
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it was like that on TUF (Penn/Edgar), hilarious
