Should Machida Retire?

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Originally posted by: anotherusername
Date: April 19, 2015 at 12:24 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/should-machida-retire.66087/

I'm a fan of Machida, but maybe it's time. At 36, he seems slower and less able to absorb damage. On the other hand, his loss tonight started with a slip, which could have happened to anyone. He's at that point in his career where it's hard to tell what he should do next.
I wish we could have seen that fight play out without the slip. Even if he had been dominated, I would be a lot happier with the result because there wouldn't be that lingering question of whether it was a fluke.
I guess my advice to him would be: if you lose again while taking a lot of damage, then hang it up. You don't want to end up like Dan Henderson and keep fighting when it makes no sense.
 
Originally posted by: kungfu_ghetto
Date: April 19, 2015 at 12:28 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/should-machida-retire.66087/

No way dude. Machidas fine
 
Originally posted by: redd1
Date: April 19, 2015 at 12:31 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/should-machida-retire.66087/

Yeah he was landing pretty steadily on Luke up until the slip, think he will be fine.
 
Originally posted by: anotherusername
Date: April 19, 2015 at 12:36 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/should-machida-retire.66087/

redd1 said:
Yeah he was landing pretty steadily on Luke up until the slip, think he will be fine.
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I know he was winning the standup before the slip, but what concerns me is that he did not recover between rounds. He came out in round 2 looking like a zombie. A fighter in his prime would have recovered more.
 
Originally posted by: Gogoplata85
Date: April 19, 2015 at 12:40 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/should-machida-retire.66087/

Machida still has some fights left in him. I think the Weidman fight took something out of him but he'll still beat a majority of the MW division.
 
Originally posted by: kungfu_ghetto
Date: April 19, 2015 at 12:44 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/should-machida-retire.66087/

anotherusername said:
I know he was winning the standup before the slip, but what concerns me is that he did not recover between rounds. He came out in round 2 looking like a zombie. A fighter in his prime would have recovered more.
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Dude rockhold elbowed the s--- outta him before the bell.
 
Originally posted by: anotherusername
Date: April 19, 2015 at 12:47 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/should-machida-retire.66087/

kungfu_ghetto said:
Dude rockhold elbowed the s--- outta him before the bell.
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Maybe you're right. Machida has always relied too much on his TDD and underperforms once he is taken down. He was so intent on getting back to his feet that he kept worsening his position and absorbing more damage.
 
Originally posted by: redd1
Date: April 19, 2015 at 12:48 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/should-machida-retire.66087/

kungfu_ghetto said:
Dude rockhold elbowed the s--- outta him before the bell.
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Potentially to the back of the head, though I haven't seen a replay to really tell where it landed.
 
Originally posted by: cobra_punch
Date: April 19, 2015 at 12:48 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/should-machida-retire.66087/

Nope, he should BellaTire.
 
Originally posted by: Iron
Date: April 19, 2015 at 12:55 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/should-machida-retire.66087/

Machida was never that good of a fighter.
If he gets taken down, he is done.
If he gets hit hard, he is done. The guy can't take any punishment.
His best chance to win a fight is in the first couple minutes of the first round. Instead of attacking, he just does hip gyrations and moves back.
Machida should drop to 170.
Weidman, Rockhold, Jacare, etc are all too big for him and more skilled.
 
Originally posted by: Mike Porch MMA
Date: April 19, 2015 at 12:55 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/should-machida-retire.66087/

Nope. Not at all. First thing he should do after this loss is grow back that beard. Then back to the gym & get to work.
Off the top of my head, I think he should take on the winner of Mousasi vs Philippou
 
Originally posted by: DimMak
Date: April 19, 2015 at 12:58 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/should-machida-retire.66087/

I don't think a thread has made me more irked
Machida retire?? GTFO with that noise. Prior to this loss, Machida had ripped apart Munoz and Dollaway like they were chew toys and masterfully picked apart the Dreamcatcher! He treats his body like a sacred temple and has much longevity left. He almost defeated the great Weidman less than a year ago for crying out loud.
Fickle fans
 
Originally posted by: Mike Porch MMA
Date: April 19, 2015 at 12:58 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/should-machida-retire.66087/

Iron said:
Machida was never that good of a fighter.
If he gets taken down, he is done.
If he gets hit hard, he is done. The guy can't take any punishment.
His best chance to win a fight is in the first couple minutes of the first round. Instead of attacking, he just does hip gyrations and moves back.
Machida should drop to 170.
Weidman, Rockhold, Jacare, etc are all too big for him and more skilled.
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Wooooow. Never seen an assessment of Machida like that. Very very bold words.
I respectfully disagree. Would love to hear some other Junkie brothers & sisters opinion your thoughts
 
Originally posted by: DimMak
Date: April 19, 2015 at 01:02 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/should-machida-retire.66087/

Iron's opinion in not worth his weight in dung, respectfully
 
Originally posted by: anotherusername
Date: April 19, 2015 at 01:03 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/should-machida-retire.66087/

DimMak said:
I don't think a thread has made me more irked
Machida retire?? GTFO with that noise. Prior to this loss, Machida had ripped apart Munoz and Dollaway like they were chew toys and masterfully picked apart the Dreamcatcher! He treats his body like a sacred temple and has much longevity left. He almost defeated the great Weidman less than a year ago for crying out loud.
Fickle fans
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Don't be irked, I'm a fan of the dragon and I'm simply raising the question. I stand by my statement in the OP that if he suffers another loss while taking a lot of damage that he should hang it up. On the other hand, if he gets back to his winning ways, that's another story. I just don't want to see him become one of those fighters who overstays his welcome and becomes a shadow of his former self.
 
Originally posted by: Spidy
Date: April 19, 2015 at 01:06 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/should-machida-retire.66087/

Mike Porch MMA said:
Wooooow. Never seen an assessment of Machida like that. Very very bold words.
I respectfully disagree. Would love to hear some other Junkie brothers & sisters opinion your thoughts
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That rusty *** assessment of Machida deserves no response.
 
Originally posted by: Mike Porch MMA
Date: April 19, 2015 at 01:08 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/should-machida-retire.66087/

Spidy said:
That rusty *** assessment of Machida deserves no response.
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I know dude, but i was soooooo surprised. Its so intriguing to me that someone could actually have that opinion on Lyoto. I had to know what others thought
 
Originally posted by: dizie
Date: April 19, 2015 at 01:10 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/should-machida-retire.66087/

He's gonna be unbeatable in Ballator
 
Originally posted by: thedarkwingduck2k11
Date: April 19, 2015 at 01:15 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/should-machida-retire.66087/

Well I'm a Machida fan and i think he should retire if in fact he doesn't need the money. I believe he is financially set for the rest of his life. He has nothing left to prove. He's not gonna beat the top 5 guys in either the MW or LHW division. He took a lot of punishment in his last few fights and it will only get worse if he continues to fight the top guys. Health I think is more important. Machida once said he would stop fighting at 35. I think he should stick to it for his health and family.
 
Originally posted by: DimMak
Date: April 19, 2015 at 01:16 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/should-machida-retire.66087/

dizie said:
He's gonna be unbeatable in Ballator
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True on multiple levels.
1. B
a
llator doesn't exist
2. He's retiring in the UFC
 
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