Strikeforce's Fedor Emelianenko: "I'm not a fan of the UFC"

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Originally posted by: joseproberts
Date: June 18, 2010 at 07:49 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/strikeforces-fedor-emelianenko-im-not-a-fan-of-the-ufc.26922/

Top-ranked heavyweight Fedor Emelianenko said today that he doesn't think much of the promotion that's so aggressively courted him for more than three years.
"I'm not a UFC fan," Emelianenko said when asked if his June 26 headliner against Fabricio Werdum at "Strikeforce: Fedor vs. Werdum" is more relevant than an a UFC title-unification bout between champ Brock Lesnar and interim title-holder Shane Carwin at UFC 116.
"I would invite all the fans to watch our fight, which I believe is more important," he said.
The winner of Emelianenko (31-1 MMA, 1-0 SF) vs. Werdum (13-4-1 MMA, 2-0 SF) is expected to fight current Strikeforce heavyweight champion Alistair Overeem, who in May defended his title against Brett Rogers.
Overeem and his managers have sparred in the press with Emelianenko's representatives over the potential bout and have traded accusations as to the the long-anticipated fight's delay.
Emelianenko, who this past August signed a three-fight contract with Strikeforce after intense negotiations with the UFC, did not back off his statements when later asked to clarify.
"I'm not a fan of watching [the UFC's] fights," he said. "Compared to a lot of the commercials and promotion in anticipation of their fights, and compared to a lot of the shows I've seen, there seems to be a lot of negativity involved in their shows.
"So I'm just not a fan of watching their programs."
It was the first time Emelianenko took a direct shot at the UFC's product. In the three years since the Russian became a free agent with the shuttering of PRIDE Fighting Championships, he shied away from criticizing the industry-leading fight promotion.
UFC president Dana White alternately has blasted Emelianenko and coveted his services.
"I've signed Brock Lesnar, who came from the WWE, James Toney from boxing – he's a nut chasing me all over the place – Tito Ortiz, whom I hated, and he hated me," White told MMAjunkie.com (www.mmajunkie.com) in an interview following UFC 115. "I've kept Chuck Liddell, kept Matt Hughes, kept Rich Franklin, when they were all champions. Anderson Silva, I've dealt with all the crazy [expletive] with him.
"But I can't sign Fedor? How is this possible that I can't sign this guy? It's not possible. These guys don't want to fight the best in the world."
Emelianenko said his dislike of the UFC stems from how its fights are presented and the fighters it employs.
"I think a combination," he said. "And also, in some ways, (it's due to) the actions and the behavior of a lot of fighters from the UFC. It takes away from the sport."
In the past, Emelianenko's manager, Vadim Finkelchtein, has addressed White's claims. But today, the manager and M-1 Global president was silent.
Strikeforce CEO Scott Coker said today that "Strikeforce: Fedor vs. Rogers" has crossed the 10,000 mark in ticket sales, and he expects a full house at the HP Pavilion in San Jose, Calif., for the event.
Source: Main page of mmajunkie.com
 
Originally posted by: justice3233
Date: June 18, 2010 at 08:48 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/strikeforces-fedor-emelianenko-im-not-a-fan-of-the-ufc.26922/

He is entitled to his opinion, but he is fighting in the minor leagues (AAA) of MMA. i don't get it. Are we missing something? It can't be the money. I know Dana has offered huge dollars. Oh well, beats me.
 
Originally posted by: Rocksteady
Date: June 18, 2010 at 08:55 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/strikeforces-fedor-emelianenko-im-not-a-fan-of-the-ufc.26922/

Funny considering Strikeforce had a brawl while on national t.v, not even a PPV.
Fedor is an idiot.
Now I really hope he gets KO'd by a HUGE knee from The Reem. (If Werdum loses that is.)
 
Originally posted by: Hitman21
Date: June 18, 2010 at 08:59 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/strikeforces-fedor-emelianenko-im-not-a-fan-of-the-ufc.26922/

SO what if Dana bashes Fedor no one has a problem, but Fedor who rarely trash talks saids Im not a fan of the UFC everyone has a problem? :roll: :roll:
He doesnt need UFC, we want him to be there..but if he retires today and never goes to UFC everyone will remember him as the best fighter of all time anyways. you know guys is ok not to like UFC, you wont go to prison or anything
 
Originally posted by: Rocksteady
Date: June 18, 2010 at 09:05 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/strikeforces-fedor-emelianenko-im-not-a-fan-of-the-ufc.26922/

joseproberts said:
Emelianenko said his dislike of the UFC stems from how its fights are presented and the fighters it employs.
"I think a combination," he said. "And also, in some ways, (it's due to) the actions and the behavior of a lot of fighters from the UFC. It takes away from the sport."
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No one said you have to be a UFC fan.
Doesn't it bother you that he said that? Considering that one show in Strikeforce with the brawl took away from mma more than all the UFC shows combined.
(Even though that was the most entertaining part, lol.)
 
Originally posted by: TheFranchise
Date: June 18, 2010 at 09:45 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/strikeforces-fedor-emelianenko-im-not-a-fan-of-the-ufc.26922/

I like the part where he says his fight against Werdum is more important than Brock and Carwin's fight.... Obviously no one thinks that, he is just trying to sell his fight
 
Originally posted by: SupermanUFC
Date: June 18, 2010 at 09:46 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/strikeforces-fedor-emelianenko-im-not-a-fan-of-the-ufc.26922/

fedor's credibility as more than a cyborg fighter is really deminishing for me.
i like the guy but i keep finding him to be more than a heel than anything. his hardcore fans, his inability to just take good fights without his management creating a lot of drama for it. m-1. its all annoying. ill always watch his fights, but other than that, i cant really stand the guy lately
 
Originally posted by: Butcher101
Date: June 18, 2010 at 09:49 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/strikeforces-fedor-emelianenko-im-not-a-fan-of-the-ufc.26922/

Rocksteady said:
joseproberts said:
Emelianenko said his dislike of the UFC stems from how its fights are presented and the fighters it employs.
"I think a combination," he said. "And also, in some ways, (it's due to) the actions and the behavior of a lot of fighters from the UFC. It takes away from the sport."
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No one said you have to be a UFC fan.
Doesn't it bother you that he said that? Considering that one show in Strikeforce with the brawl took away from mma more than all the UFC shows combined.
(Even though that was the most entertaining part, lol.)
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That is a bold statement, i think they were out of line for fighting like that but to say it took away so much from MMA is a little far out. What about him not liking the ufc was illegitimate? Dana publicly makes fun of him and his friends/team all the time and people where he comes from would consider that disrespect and all he did was state that he doesn't like the organization. What's wrong with not caring for a business run by a man who treats you like s***
He raises an interesting point. Fedor has never been much of a trash talker and not that you don't see trash talk in strikeforce but in the UFC it runs rampant i don't blame him for not wanting to be part of the "machine". We can argue all day long about "such and such org has top competition but its not as though the talent is miles and miles ahead one way or the other.
 
Originally posted by: shaun00
Date: June 18, 2010 at 09:51 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/strikeforces-fedor-emelianenko-im-not-a-fan-of-the-ufc.26922/

It should really say I'm a fan but i'm just Scared to fight for them!
 
Originally posted by: mabrown45
Date: June 18, 2010 at 09:51 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/strikeforces-fedor-emelianenko-im-not-a-fan-of-the-ufc.26922/

justice3233 said:
He is entitled to his opinion, but he is fighting in the minor leagues (AAA) of MMA. i don't get it. Are we missing something? It can't be the money. I know Dana has offered huge dollars. Oh well, beats me.
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The UFC offered Fedor a six-fight, $30 million contract. That's 5 mil a fight
- The UFC offered Fedor an immediate title shot
- Lesnar/Fedor would be the biggest PPV in MMA history (we assume), and the UFC offered M-1 Global a cut of the PPV on top of Fedor's purse.
- Fedor was free to wear as many M-1 logoed items as he wished.
- The UFC also relented on allowing Fedor to compete in combat sambo.
That is what the UFC offered Fedor.....can't be about money
 
Originally posted by: elderpanda
Date: June 18, 2010 at 09:58 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/strikeforces-fedor-emelianenko-im-not-a-fan-of-the-ufc.26922/

justpaul said:
Rocksteady said:
joseproberts said:
Emelianenko said his dislike of the UFC stems from how its
fights are presented and the fighters it employs
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"I think a combination," he said. "And also, in some ways, (it's due to) the actions and the behavior of a lot of fighters from the UFC. It takes away from the sport."
He has every right to express his opinion, but this statement here, is naive at best on his part. By fights presented, is he talking about the way the shows are organized and presented? Because I would take the production of a UFC event over anything SF can produce. And even though Rogan and Goldy are biased and not the most knowledgable, I like them more than Raulo or whatever his name is and his partner. Militetch though is good. And by fighters it employs, he probably is referring to the likes of Kos and Sonnen, who trash talk quite a bit. But that stuff happens all over mma.
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Originally posted by: 7time
Date: June 18, 2010 at 10:03 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/strikeforces-fedor-emelianenko-im-not-a-fan-of-the-ufc.26922/

mabrown45 said:
- Lesnar/Fedor would be the biggest PPV in MMA history (we assume),
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Im glad you put assume. Because the more and more I think about it, it doesnt have me thinking it would. Fedor is NOT a draw. Lesnar is yes, but Lesnar would draw against anybody and I dont think many casuals who dont buy PPV'S to begin with are going to care enough to pay and see Fedor. Maybe with the UFC HYPE machine it Fedor vs Brock would do better, but I dont see it doing 2 million buys or anything. I think it would fall right around 1-1.3 million.
Brock vs Carwin could do as much as Brock vs Fedor IMO. But I think the undercard would be a very important part of the equation.
 
Originally posted by: TheFranchise
Date: June 18, 2010 at 10:05 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/strikeforces-fedor-emelianenko-im-not-a-fan-of-the-ufc.26922/

He raises an interesting point. Fedor has never been much of a trash talker and not that you don't see trash talk in strikeforce but in the UFC it runs rampant i don't blame him for not wanting to be part of the "machine". We can argue all day long about "such and such org has top competition but its not as though the talent is miles and miles ahead one way or the other.[/quote]
Umm yea the UFC is miles ahead of strikeforce besides fedor... i mean i wouldnt take werdum rogers, big foot AA or A.O over velasquez, JDS, Big nog, lesnar, carwin or mir... and as a prospect i would still rather have duffee and pat barry over Rogers... and Duffee looked awsome until he got the miracle of a life time KO...
King Mo and mousassi barely sneak into the top 10 in the LHW division....
MW... ummmmm, ummmmm
WW shields is really really good, but he will be in the ufc shortly sooo
LW, melendez
soo I would say they are miles ahead of strikeforce... And I am not a UFC homer, I actually like watching strikeforce, i was really excited for the shields and hendo card(boring fights) but i couldnt wait to watch it, but the UFC is clearly on top of the MMA world
 
Originally posted by: mabrown45
Date: June 18, 2010 at 10:15 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/strikeforces-fedor-emelianenko-im-not-a-fan-of-the-ufc.26922/

7time said:
mabrown45 said:
- Lesnar/Fedor would be the biggest PPV in MMA history (we assume),
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Im glad you put assume. Because the more and more I think about it, it doesnt have me thinking it would. Fedor is NOT a draw. Lesnar is yes, but Lesnar would draw against anybody and I dont think many casuals who dont buy PPV'S to begin with are going to care enough to pay and see Fedor. Maybe with the UFC HYPE machine it Fedor vs Brock would do better, but I dont see it doing 2 million buys or anything. I think it would fall right around 1-1.3 million.
Brock vs Carwin could do as much as Brock vs Fedor IMO. But I think the undercard would be a very important part of the equation.
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That was a quote from a website.....I just was too lazy to try and quote it all properly
http://blogs.chron.com/fighting/2009/07/fedor_and_m1_reject_30_million_1.html
 
Originally posted by: GoodCat
Date: June 18, 2010 at 10:34 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/strikeforces-fedor-emelianenko-im-not-a-fan-of-the-ufc.26922/

WTF is Fedor talking about? I mean, it's cool that he doesn't want to be in the UFC, but the stuff he is saying in the interview isn't true at all. What has the UFC done to take away from the sport? Expanding MMA all over North America? Going out into Canada and Europe? I like Strikeforce as a promotion, but they haven't exactly done anything to help the sport of MMA grow. Especially not a brawl in the middle of their ring on live network television.
 
Originally posted by: ballsout
Date: June 18, 2010 at 10:34 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/strikeforces-fedor-emelianenko-im-not-a-fan-of-the-ufc.26922/

How much of that 30 million was guaranteed? What was his base salary to be?
Of course dana wanted his first fight to be in a cage, fedor never stepped in a cage at that time. What was the ability of dana to release Fedor vs Fedors ability to leave?
Fedor doesn't need the UFc and the UFC doesn't need fedor, there are enough fights for fedor outside of the UFC for the remainder of his career
 
Originally posted by: mabrown45
Date: June 18, 2010 at 10:39 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/strikeforces-fedor-emelianenko-im-not-a-fan-of-the-ufc.26922/

ballsout said:
How much of that 30 million was guaranteed? What was his base salary to be?
Of course dana wanted his first fight to be in a cage, fedor never stepped in a cage at that time. What was the ability of dana to release Fedor vs Fedors ability to leave?
Fedor doesn't need the UFc and the UFC doesn't need fedor, there are enough fights for fedor outside of the UFC for the remainder of his career
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http://blogs.chron.com/fighting/2009/07/fedor_and_m1_reject_30_million_1.html
It was all guaranteed as long as he fought 6 times....then extra PPV revenue. Of course that was from a long time ago.
 
Originally posted by: JonnyF
Date: June 18, 2010 at 10:41 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/strikeforces-fedor-emelianenko-im-not-a-fan-of-the-ufc.26922/

ballsout said:
How much of that 30 million was guaranteed? What was his base salary to be?
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I'm pretty sure the 30 million turned out to just be a rumour, but Fedor haters won't let it go. It doesn't even make sense. The UFC wouldn't pay Fedor 6 million a fight when their biggest draws make no where near that much.
http://mmajunkie.com/news/15688/manager-fedor-emelianenko-ufc-still-negotiating-but-no-truth-to-rumors-of-30-million-deal.mma
 
Originally posted by: CanJunkie40
Date: June 18, 2010 at 10:49 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/strikeforces-fedor-emelianenko-im-not-a-fan-of-the-ufc.26922/

Hes not a fan of the UFC because he doesn't want to fight real competition other than Overeem.
 
Originally posted by: thabestevah
Date: June 18, 2010 at 10:50 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/strikeforces-fedor-emelianenko-im-not-a-fan-of-the-ufc.26922/

Sorry but who the hell is Carmichael Dave , and where did he get those numbers? I don't buy that at all. Those numbers are outrageous. Besides everyone knows it isn't about money.
JonnyF said:
ballsout said:
How much of that 30 million was guaranteed? What was his base salary to be?
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I'm pretty sure the 30 million turned out to just be a rumour, but Fedor haters won't let it go. It doesn't even make sense. The UFC wouldn't pay Fedor 6 million a fight when their biggest drawms make no where near that much.
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Yeah, I don't think there is anyway those numbers are accurate at all. The shitty "reporting" done in MMA is ridiculous at times. That is why I mostly stick to the Junkie for my MMA news. I don't need to see BS rumors that are clearly fabricated. No way that is what the UFC offered.
 
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