Strongest Division in the UFC...
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LitesOut13 said:
Which division do you think is the strongest in the UFC and why???
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Tough question. Welterweight is pretty strong, but GSP is too dominate of a champ.
Heavyweight has Lesnar on top, but Cain, JDS, Nelson, and Carwin all biting to get in there.
LHW - Shogun is a monster, but that belt is cursed. Since Chuck Liddell, there hasn't been a single fighter that could convincingly hold on to it.
MW - Anderson is king, and will be for a while
LW - Frankie/Penn II will really decide the division IMO. If Frankie can keep it, I see the belt changing a few more times. If BJ takes it back, thats it.
ResoluteProtector said:
I say Light Heavyweight on the basis that just about any of the top ten could own the belt on any day.
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Ya I said light weight just because there are so many people that you can put toward the top. You have Edgar/Penn then you have Florian, Maynard, Sitoropoulos, Dunham, and even more.
LitesOut13 said:
ResoluteProtector said:
I say Light Heavyweight on the basis that just about any of the top ten could own the belt on any day.
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Ya I said light weight just because there are so many people that you can put toward the top. You have Edgar/Penn then you have Florian, Maynard, Sitoropoulos, Dunham, and even more.
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The thing is, Penn owned that belt for years, and almost cleaned out the division. No one has ruled the LHW class since Chuck Liddell lost the title to Rampage.
Tgilb2007 said:
LitesOut13 said:
ResoluteProtector said:
I say Light Heavyweight on the basis that just about any of the top ten could own the belt on any day.
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Ya I said light weight just because there are so many people that you can put toward the top. You have Edgar/Penn then you have Florian, Maynard, Sitoropoulos, Dunham, and even more.
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The thing is, Penn owned that belt for years, and almost cleaned out the division. No one has ruled the LHW class since Chuck Liddell lost the title to Rampage.
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But not until recently has there been new contenders for that belt. I mean Rampage defended the belt then lost it, he is still in the title picture. Evans got the belt then lost it and he is in line for the next shot. Bader is sort of rising as another contender but prolly still a few fights away, and Jon Jones is prolly 2 fights away also. I think at LW you have Florian/Maynard that can be next as well as Sitoropoulos and Dunham can make an arguement that 1 more win and they can get a title shot
People have really exaggerated Penn's dominance of the LW division. He won the title from Joe Stevenson then defended it a grand total of three times before he lost it to Edgar, and sandwiched in between those was a WW fight in which GSP dominated him with no problem. LW is certainly not the strongest division in the UFC however. I would say it is WW or LHW.
LitesOut13 said:
But not until recently has there been new contenders for that belt. I mean Rampage defended the belt then lost it, he is still in the title picture. Evans got the belt then lost it and he is in line for the next shot. Bader is sort of rising as another contender but prolly still a few fights away, and Jon Jones is prolly 2 fights away also. I think at LW you have Florian/Maynard that can be next as well as Sitoropoulos and Dunham can make an arguement that 1 more win and they can get a title shot
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Finally..... an intelligent debate. First, thank you. Second, my rebuttal:
While there are finally some new challengers in line for the LW throne, a couple of them are still a little far off. George and Dunham still have a little work to do before they reach a title fight. Kenny Florian lost 2 shots at it already. Maynard needs this win over KenFlo. Frankie did lose to Maynard (only loss of his career), but could very well avenge that loss. But, realisticly, right now, you have 4 prime fighters that could very well hold that title.
In the LHW division, you get the champ, 3 former champs, and Lil Nog, who could actually beat any one of them. Add in Bones Jones and Ryan Bader, plus with Thiago Silva still in the mix, you get the top guys, who really on any given night, beat each other. It is their deepest division, and the most highly contested for title shots.
I don't think that the frequency that the belt changes hands is necessarily a direct indication of the strength of a division. I voted for WW. I believe they have the most fighters in the general consensus of P4P than any other division. LHW would be close behind, but I think that the strength of the fighters at welterweight is overshadowed right now by the beast that is GSP.
Tgilb2007 said:
LitesOut13 said:
But not until recently has there been new contenders for that belt. I mean Rampage defended the belt then lost it, he is still in the title picture. Evans got the belt then lost it and he is in line for the next shot. Bader is sort of rising as another contender but prolly still a few fights away, and Jon Jones is prolly 2 fights away also. I think at LW you have Florian/Maynard that can be next as well as Sitoropoulos and Dunham can make an arguement that 1 more win and they can get a title shot
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Finally..... an intelligent debate. First, thank you. Second, my rebuttal:
While there are finally some new challengers in line for the LW throne, a couple of them are still a little far off. George and Dunham still have a little work to do before they reach a title fight. Kenny Florian lost 2 shots at it already. Maynard needs this win over KenFlo. Frankie did lose to Maynard (only loss of his career), but could very well avenge that loss. But, realisticly, right now, you have 4 prime fighters that could very well hold that title.
In the LHW division, you get the champ, 3 former champs, and Lil Nog, who could actually beat any one of them. Add in Bones Jones and Ryan Bader, plus with Thiago Silva still in the mix, you get the top guys, who really on any given night, beat each other. It is their deepest division, and the most highly contested for title shots.
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Hmmmm ok I will agreee with you it is def the most highly contested weight class, but I still think the deepest is LW. Cuz I think you still have young guys there that are rising fast, I mean you could toss is a guy like Pearson that is working his way up. I just look at the LHW as being more top heavy rather than deep
I definitely say Light Heavyweight. The division is deep enough where there are at leat ten potential title holders.
Lightweight, although pretty deep, doesn't have too many title contenders. (Yes, I know many will disagree with that statement.) Not many guys could go toe to toe with BJ.
Heavy and Middle both have a decent number of contenders. Welter has more, but against GSP, not many would come away with a victory.
LHW isnt as stacked as everyone says it is.
Top 5-6 wise yes but outside that not really. Its a pretty thin division without its top 5.
LW is stacked from top to bottom. Top 15-20 in those divisions are impressive. They have more then top 5-6 fighters who can win. You have a very long list of fighters who can beat the top 5 in that division anyday
It is too early for me to read all the other posts but is LHW the strongest just because no one can hold onto the belt? Or does it mean too many are close to the same skill set?..........not always true but anyone can win is kind of where i'm getting at. I am kind of wondering how that would make it the strongest division.........but it kind of makes you wonder about the question.......what does "strongest" really mean??
mabrown45 said:
It is too early for me to read all the other posts but is LHW the strongest just because no one can hold onto the belt? Or does it mean too many are close to the same skill set?..........not always true but anyone can win is kind of where i'm getting at. I am kind of wondering how that would make it the strongest division.........but it kind of makes you wonder about the question.......what does "strongest" really mean??
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imo, the strongest division means the amount of quality fighters in it and as you mentioned, how close the division is. for example in the LHW div, no one can hold onto title which is actually quite good for the sport. so as u said, that makes LHW the best.
People are saying the LHW division because the title changes hands very often recently? What does that have to do with how strong the division is? :?
With that being said I would say that the LHW division is the most stacked because of the fighters, while LW is a very close second and WW being a very close third as well.
I say the strongest division is heavyweight. Atleast for the next 2-3 title fights there will not be rematches. I like the depth of both the WW and LHW division, but next title fight will be a rematch for the title and in LHW Rashad is only 3 fights removed from losing the title to Machida.