Tate Wants a Rematch - Feels She Can Beat Ronda

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Originally posted by: Project86
Date: March 12, 2012 at 06:40 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/tate-wants-a-rematch-feels-she-can-beat-ronda.45708/

Mar 12, 2012 - No fighter plans on becoming a fixture on someone else's highlight reel, especially in the smoldering fog of a grudge match.
So when former Strikeforce champion Miesha Tate found herself befalling the same fate as seven other women before her, trapped underneath Ronda Rousey with her left arm dangerously close to snapping in two, the thought of tapping seemed somewhat ludicrous. Only when there was no other option did finally she relent, handing Rousey the victory and the belt.
Tate's mangled limb was a shocking image for viewers witnessing from home -- the footage is so grisly, weeks later her family members still refuse to watch it -- but would "Takedown" have called it quits sooner if it was anyone else on the planet wrenching her arm from its socket?
"It's possible," Tate admitted on Monday's episode of The MMA Hour. "Obviously I knew (the risk) going into that. It didn't catch me by surprise. A lot of people say, like Bryan (Caraway), ‘you're crazy. How did you not tap to that?' I think because I was prepared for that mentally. Not that I was ever planning on being there, but I knew that if I got into that position, I just knew it was a realistic possibility, and so I was prepared.
"I felt my arm go in, and I was like, ‘you know, I don't want to tap.' And I didn't. So I felt my hand touch the back of her thigh and I knew everything was really bad. I just didn't know at that point. I didn't feel there was a way out of it. I had idea how much longer there was on the clock and it just felt like things were getting worse and worse. And I was like, ‘I just don't know how much of this my arm can take.' I think that's when common sense started to settle in, rather than pure stubbornness."
Tate was lucky to have come to that realization when she did. The extent of the damage done to her is arm is still in question, but despite the gruesomeness of the contortion, x-rays have shown there to be no broken bones. The 25-year-old Tate is currently waiting on MRI results to determine if surgery is required, but she is "pretty sure" she has torn ligament towards the inner side of her elbow. Though if you saw her walking around, beside some slight swelling and bruising, it'd be hard to tell the difference.
As for the question of if the former champion would handle the finish differently in hindsight, Tate was noncommittal. However, she made it exceptionally clear that she wouldn't fall for the same trick twice if given the chance.
"I, personally, would love the opportunity to have a rematch," Tate protested. "I think at a high level, it takes one mistake. Anyone can make a mistake at any moment and someone's able to capitalize on that.
"I don't feel that Ronda proved anything other than what she's already (proved) -- that she has one thing that she's great at. Really phenomenal at. But everything else, I could beat her. Give me another shot. I think it was competitive. I think for the most part I was probably winning. And I think at a competitive high level, one day one person could beat the one person, and the other day the other person would beat the other person."
While the bad blood between both women clearly still lingers in the air, Tate did offer a salute of respect to her rival, acknowledging that what Rousey had done in a short amount of time was relatively remarkable. Surprisingly, Tate also picked Rousey to defeat Sarah Kaufman in her upcoming title defense, explaining that Kaufman's style plays right in Rousey's strengths.
Ultimately, however, Tate understands that despite their differences, both she and Rousey are in the same boat, fighting the frustrating uphill battle to gain respect for women's MMA. And in that regard, with reports of 506,000 viewers tuning in to watch the most heavily-hyped women's match since 2009, Tate believes they succeeded.
"I wanted to go out there and I wanted to make a very bold statement," she concluded. "I'm not just a cute girl. I'm not here to be cute for the camera. I wanted to show that women's MMA is legit. We come out there and we fight very, very hard.
"We can definitely carry the main event. We can definitely draw the numbers. We can definitely entertain, and we're also really skilled. And I think that, in the big picture, we accomplished that."
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http://www.mmafighting.com/strikeforce/2012/3/12/2865825/miesha-tate-recounts-ronda-rousey-finish-rematch-strikeforce-mma
:lol: is this chick delusional she thought she was winning LOL
 
Originally posted by: MMAJohn13
Date: March 12, 2012 at 06:56 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/tate-wants-a-rematch-feels-she-can-beat-ronda.45708/

I can't believe they let her on the air with so many drugs in her system.
 
Originally posted by: AllDay
Date: March 12, 2012 at 07:15 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/tate-wants-a-rematch-feels-she-can-beat-ronda.45708/

What she didnt Tap? FastForward she TAPS!!!
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/v/_AAwoPCOxZ0[/youtube]
 
Originally posted by: condrab
Date: March 12, 2012 at 07:29 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/tate-wants-a-rematch-feels-she-can-beat-ronda.45708/

AllDay said:
What she didnt Tap? FastForward she TAPS!!!
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/v/_AAwoPCOxZ0[/youtube]
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she didnt say she didnt tap. she was talking about how she didnt tap right away
 
Originally posted by: anotherusername
Date: March 12, 2012 at 07:51 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/tate-wants-a-rematch-feels-she-can-beat-ronda.45708/

Like most of us, I don't agree that Tate would have a good chance at beating Rousey in a rematch. However, I'm not going to ridicule her for thinking she has a good chance. She's a fighter and she needs to believe in herself. And she is right that her striking is better, at least.
 
Originally posted by: Project86
Date: March 12, 2012 at 07:54 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/tate-wants-a-rematch-feels-she-can-beat-ronda.45708/

^true but not by much and she did'nt have the power to hurt ronda
she hit Ronda with a clean right hand to the chin and rousey was'nt fazed
and Ronda said the other day on the mma hour that tate just caught her off guard with her bull rush attack
 
Originally posted by: Jak
Date: March 12, 2012 at 08:06 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/tate-wants-a-rematch-feels-she-can-beat-ronda.45708/

How about Tate wins a few fights and then talks about rematches.
i don't mind close fights where the fighter who loses wants a rematch, but i hate when one person gets owned in every way and then wants a rematch. :roll:
 
Originally posted by: noobMMAfan
Date: March 12, 2012 at 08:14 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/tate-wants-a-rematch-feels-she-can-beat-ronda.45708/

EVERYONE is trying to use the edgar card! What's next, Joe Warren?
 
Originally posted by: Project86
Date: March 12, 2012 at 08:29 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/tate-wants-a-rematch-feels-she-can-beat-ronda.45708/

what can she actually think she can do differently :?
Ronda showed her judo trumps her wrestling - 3 take downs in 4 minutes
showed her grappling is far superior - 2 arm bars and 4 guard passes
she could of TKO'd her if she wanted to
Tate does'nt have the power to hurt Rousey either
 
Originally posted by: RearNakedSlam
Date: March 12, 2012 at 08:33 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/tate-wants-a-rematch-feels-she-can-beat-ronda.45708/

She was definitely winning after she threw her first 3 punches, right up until 2 seconds later when she got tossed like a ragdoll and thrown into an armbar.. She showed some defense and got out like a pro, just to get thrown right back on her *** and into another armbar..
To say Rousey is good at ONE THING is to say that MMA is only comprised of TWO THINGS. Rousey dominates on the ground, and dominates at getting you there. If Rousey ever gets a legitimate standup game, Cyborg better start running.
 
Originally posted by: Jak
Date: March 12, 2012 at 08:35 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/tate-wants-a-rematch-feels-she-can-beat-ronda.45708/

noobMMAfan said:
EVERYONE is trying to use the edgar card! What's next, Joe Warren?
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I personally thought the Warren/Curran fight was stopped a little prematurely. Warren was still standing, how can that be considered a finish? The only way you can consider a fighter finished is is he falls down completely.
 
Originally posted by: Tgilb2007
Date: March 12, 2012 at 08:37 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/tate-wants-a-rematch-feels-she-can-beat-ronda.45708/

RearNakedSlam said:
She was definitely winning after she threw her first 3 punches, right up until 2 seconds later when she got tossed like a ragdoll and thrown into an armbar.. She showed some defense and got out like a pro, just to get thrown right back on her *** and into another armbar..
To say Rousey is good at ONE THING is to say that MMA is only comprised of TWO THINGS. Rousey dominates on the ground, and dominates at getting you there. If Rousey ever gets a legitimate standup game, Cyborg better start running.
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This. Sorry, but from what I've seen, there is not another female MMA fighter that is close to Ronda on the mats right now. 3 slick trips / throws, awesome transition work all over, and Tate (who is a very good grappler), had very little to offer her.
I think as long as Ronda makes 135lb's, that weight class is hers. Unless, MORE high level martial artists start moving to MMA.
 
Originally posted by: Project86
Date: March 12, 2012 at 08:47 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/tate-wants-a-rematch-feels-she-can-beat-ronda.45708/

RearNakedSlam said:
She was definitely winning after she threw her first 3 punches, right up until 2 seconds later when she got tossed like a ragdoll and thrown into an armbar.. She showed some defense and got out like a pro, just to get thrown right back on her *** and into another armbar..
To say Rousey is good at ONE THING is to say that MMA is only comprised of TWO THINGS.
Rousey dominates on the ground, and dominates at getting you there
. If Rousey ever gets a legitimate standup game, Cyborg better start running.
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this is what makes ronda so dangerous
we have seen so many male and female fighters with sick ground games but dont have the technique,strength,or skills to get their opponenet on the mat to use their ground game and pay for it by getting battered standing
but ronda has the strength,judo skills,technique to get it to the ground anytime she pleases to use her sick ground game
 
Originally posted by: CF3
Date: March 12, 2012 at 08:55 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/tate-wants-a-rematch-feels-she-can-beat-ronda.45708/

I must of been watching a different fight than Tate is talking about. :roll: The fight I saw Rhoda was all over Tate like white on rice. At no point in that short fight was Tate winning.
 
Originally posted by: the0n3
Date: March 13, 2012 at 01:19 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/tate-wants-a-rematch-feels-she-can-beat-ronda.45708/

CF3 said:
I must of been watching a different fight than Tate is talking about. :roll: The fight I saw Rhoda was all over Tate like white on rice. At no point in that short fight was Tate winning.
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Tate had her back for about 30 seconds and was working for a RNC. She also landed some solid punches which caused Rousey to turn her head.
But I agree there should be no rematch.
 
Originally posted by: Project86
Date: March 13, 2012 at 01:55 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/tate-wants-a-rematch-feels-she-can-beat-ronda.45708/

also what was this mistake she made?
this was'nt like she was GNP'ing Ronda and left her arm in the guard and got caught
she got judo hip tossed, got her guard passed, then got mounted then GNP'd a bit ,then got her back taken ,and GNP'd some more ,then flipped over for an arm bar and got it snapped in 2
this is not making a mistake this is called getting schooled
 
Originally posted by: PsychoIcon
Date: March 13, 2012 at 04:53 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/tate-wants-a-rematch-feels-she-can-beat-ronda.45708/

Jak said:
noobMMAfan said:
EVERYONE is trying to use the edgar card! What's next, Joe Warren?
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I personally thought the Warren/Curran fight was stopped a little prematurely. Warren was still standing, how can that be considered a finish? The only way you can consider a fighter finished is is he falls down completely.
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A boxer died in the ring because of this.
 
Originally posted by: residency
Date: March 13, 2012 at 05:00 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/tate-wants-a-rematch-feels-she-can-beat-ronda.45708/

Jak said:
noobMMAfan said:
EVERYONE is trying to use the edgar card! What's next, Joe Warren?
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I personally thought the Warren/Curran fight was stopped a little prematurely. Warren was still standing, how can that be considered a finish? The only way you can consider a fighter finished is is he falls down completely.
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Typical Jak, trolling us all again... there's zero way you can think that fight should've been allowed to go on the way it did.
 
Originally posted by: clockwerk
Date: March 13, 2012 at 08:01 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/tate-wants-a-rematch-feels-she-can-beat-ronda.45708/

residency said:
Jak said:
noobMMAfan said:
EVERYONE is trying to use the edgar card! What's next, Joe Warren?
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I personally thought the Warren/Curran fight was stopped a little prematurely. Warren was still standing, how can that be considered a finish? The only way you can consider a fighter finished is is he falls down completely.
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Typical Jak, trolling us all again... there's zero way you can think that fight should've been allowed to go on the way it did.
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You have a very tenuous grasp of sarcasm don't you?
 
Originally posted by: WilliBeamen
Date: March 13, 2012 at 09:44 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/tate-wants-a-rematch-feels-she-can-beat-ronda.45708/

hahaha high level? i thought she was bashing ronda for not being on the same league as her and she talked her way into a title shot ?? seems to me like ronda talked the talk and tate is contradicting herself
 
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