The Art of War

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: smfowns4
Date: April 16, 2011 at 03:30 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/the-art-of-war.37864/

I was watching the History channel today. It's one of my favorite channels because I absolutely love History. Well, they were having a segment on Sun Tzu. For those who are unfamiliar with Sun Tzu, he was born about 600-500 BC and he was one of the most famous and recognizable fighters. But it wasn't just because he was a fine fighter. He was one of the most wise warriors ever to live. He was born in China.
Well, on this History channel they were discussing how he had created a guideline entitled "The Art of War". This basically just describes his tactics on how to be victorious in war. Do keep in mind that this was in 500 BC.
The strange thing is, with all the comparisons in recent or non-recent wars (Vietnam, Revolutionary War, Civil War, WWII, etc.) his guidelines worked! It's miraculously incredible to believe that Sun Tzu knew so much from such little technology and whatnot at 500 BC. It's just astonishing to see how he knew so much.
Now I don't really expect this topic to get much recognition, but I do believe there are some History fanatics and possibly some war fanatics that would fine this quite educational and enjoyable. So I will give you the links.
I personally would recommend you watch the History channels view on it because it gives vital points and proves his statements were correct. Plus it's way more interesting rather then reading the book.
Summary of "The Art of War":
http://classics.mit.edu/Tzu/artwar.html
The History channels "The Art of War":
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L5jLYgc4nBs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oe1rfMpB1uQ&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HeBohmXpa58&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aj5WxDdQ9Nw&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IjnR1SclrA0&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n3z0BUwkxrk&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6w5zTmIvcYc&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gp7p9U9HFtE&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PFPklWjnLt0&feature=related
Do not be intimidated by how many parts it is. Keep in mind this is on the History channel, where each informational show is two hours long. This has all the stupid commercials cut and I promise you will not regret watching this if you are interested in such History.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: Brick
Date: April 16, 2011 at 04:36 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/the-art-of-war.37864/

Plus, "Sun Tsu's Art of War" was a sweet game on my Tandy PC about 25 years ago.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: feijaofan
Date: April 16, 2011 at 04:49 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/the-art-of-war.37864/

smfowns4 said:
Plus it's way more interesting rather then reading the book.
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Many would beg to differ. But thanks a lot, I'll check 'em out. The Sun Tzu/Machiavelli type of today (if I can compare) would have to be Robert Greene, his
33 Strategies Of War
was magnificent.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: blacklung
Date: April 17, 2011 at 06:04 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/the-art-of-war.37864/

Art of War is cool. I read the "Book of Five Rings" to my kids for their bed time story.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: whatdupdoh
Date: April 17, 2011 at 06:09 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/the-art-of-war.37864/

feijaofan said:
smfowns4 said:
Plus it's way more interesting rather then reading the book.
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Many would beg to differ. But thanks a lot, I'll check 'em out. The Sun Tzu/Machiavelli type of today (if I can compare) would have to be Robert Greene, his
33 Strategies Of War
was magnificent.
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Yeah be basically is a rip off artist. I like him too though.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: Flound
Date: April 18, 2011 at 01:05 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/the-art-of-war.37864/

Actually I'd disagree with watching the series and treating it as completely factual. Sun Wu is attributed to the writing of The Art of War, but there's a bit of discussion on whether all of it is his, or if his son, Sun Bin, wrote some of it. Or as some claim, it may be the collection of thoughts from several generals from that period of Chinese history. It'll never be resolved to anyone's satisfaction. but there are some rather noticeable anachronistic comments in the better translated texts - which is yet another argument because there's some really crappy translations out there.
It's also not surprising that the stategies and philosophies of warfare of days gone by are exceedingly effective in our modern times. Granted the tools with which war is waged have changed but logic has stayed relatively static. In the vein of Sun Tzu, you might be interested in reading von Clausewitz's "On War". Similarly, you may want to check out Machiavelli and farther along, take a stab at a few others; Basil Liddell-Hart, Henri Jomini, Alfred Mahan, Julian Corbett and Guilio Douhet, just to name a few...

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: MMA-P6U6N6X
Date: April 18, 2011 at 03:30 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/the-art-of-war.37864/

I just started Basil Liddell-Hart's Strategy yesterday, funny I would see his name on the forum the next afternoon.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: Brick
Date: April 18, 2011 at 03:40 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/the-art-of-war.37864/

MMA-P6U6N6X said:
I just started Basil Liddell-Hart's Strategy yesterday, funny I would see his name on the forum the next afternoon.
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According to Sedulous that makes you psychic.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: MMA-P6U6N6X
Date: April 18, 2011 at 10:31 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/the-art-of-war.37864/

And he would be wrong.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: StraightBrawler21
Date: April 19, 2011 at 11:16 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/the-art-of-war.37864/

i Dvr'd this show and have watched it about four times since then. This was a bad *** show! F watching Jersey shore, abunch of grown men and women being whores and setting a horrible exampe for Americas youth. :evil: History channel all the way! The art of war is EPIC. Sun Tzu didnt just sit back and make this stuff up, these are tactics he used to win many battles! These strategys can be used in any type of warfare including HAND TO HAND COMBAT IN THE CAGE!Also Check out The Book OF Five Rings by Miyamoto Musashi

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: StraightBrawler21
Date: April 20, 2011 at 12:04 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/the-art-of-war.37864/

Throw your soldiers into positions where there is no escape, and they will prefer death to flight. If they will face death, there is nothing they may not achieve........Sun Tzu

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: CanadianFIT
Date: April 20, 2011 at 06:02 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/the-art-of-war.37864/

I wil have to watch this when I have time, there are so many books out there on his works. The one I got I personally love because not only does it have the original piece but it has commentary from various other strategists of the time on each point.