Dana with the hyperboles (and lies?). Certainly not the worst thing in UFC history. Chiesa with a minor cut requiring a check by a doctor but no medical attention otherwise. Women got scared.
I'm not standing up for Conor. Not a cool act, to say the least. But this will be magnified tenfold because he's Conor.
From what I read, no warrant for an arrest, either.
BlairBones said:
Dana with the hyperboles (and lies?). Certainly not the worst thing in UFC history. Chiesa with a minor cut requiring a check by a doctor but no medical attention otherwise. Women got scared.
I'm not standing up for Conor. Not a cool act, to say the least. But this will be magnified tenfold because he's Conor.
From what I read, no warrant for an arrest, either.
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As far as PR this is up there with Rampage going on a Rampage.. The diff is Rampage was not near as famous and it blew over.. From a PR stand point this is by far the worst thing to happen in the UFC. Their biggest star is on video acting like a 14 year old thug.
Edit: As far as the warrant you are more than likely not going to hear that offical for a few hours more.. If at all.. He is for sure going to be facing criminal charges.
Sapper said:
As far as PR this is up there with Rampage going on a Rampage.. The diff is Rampage was not near as famous and it blew over.. From a PR stand point this is by far the worst thing to happen in the UFC. Their biggest star is on video acting like a 14 year old thug.
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The difference between what Conor did and other incidents involving UFC fighters like Jesse Taylor, Rampage, Junie Browning, etc is that Conor did all of this at a UFC sanctioned event towards UFC contracted fighters.
That's the only reason why I don't see how they could ever bring him back under the UFC banner... if they do and something remotely similar to this happens, UFC is going to be sued into oblivion by whomever McGregor endangers/harms under their watch.
All of that said... this isn't "the end" for Conor as a celebrity. He'll have a ton of other opportunities in the long term. I don't know if he will choose to pursue them or not, but they will for sure be there.
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The difference between what Conor did and other incidents involving UFC fighters like Jesse Taylor, Rampage, Junie Browning, etc is that Conor did all of this at a UFC sanctioned event towards UFC contracted fighters.
I don't see any way that they ever bring him back under the UFC banner... if they do and something remotely similar to this happens, UFC is going to be sued into oblivion by whomever McGregor endangers under their watch.
All of that said... this isn't "the end" for Conor as a celebrity. He'll have a ton of other opportunities in the long term. I don't know if he will choose to pursue them or not, but they will for sure be there.
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Conor is big enough for the UFC I can see them not doing much after some time.... As far as what he can do outside of MMA.. He has WWE (which he would be great at) but that is really it. He doesn't have anything but maybe some straight to streaming C class movies. He just lost all his sponsors.. He is big, but he isn't that big. Very few people can move from fighting or WWE to something else.. Conor, I don't think is one of those.
Connor won't be cut. Connor will enter rehab and or do a bunch of charity work and all will blow over quicker than most think imo.
Sport fans have small attention spans. Hell, I wouldn't be surprised if this card sells more than expected now.
coreymb said:
Connor won't be cut. Connor will enter rehab and or do a bunch of charity work and all will blow over quicker than most think imo.
Sport fans have small attention spans. Hell, I wouldn't be surprised if this card sells more than expected now.
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100% see this as how it goes down.. Conor comes about and says he has been doing s--- tons of blow.. Goes to rehad for 6 months.. Gets out and all this is gone...
The IF here is what the UFC does.. IF he gets cut, he is done.
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100% see this as how it goes down.. Conor comes about and says he has been doing s--- tons of blow.. Goes to rehad for 6 months.. Gets out and all this is gone...
The IF here is what the UFC does.. IF he gets cut, he is done.
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Dana already questioned if Connor was on drugs when talking to media. It will be his "out".
Sapper said:
As far as PR this is up there with Rampage going on a Rampage.. The diff is Rampage was not near as famous and it blew over.. From a PR stand point this is by far the worst thing to happen in the UFC. Their biggest star is on video acting like a 14 year old thug.
Edit: As far as the warrant you are more than likely not going to hear that offical for a few hours more.. If at all.. He is for sure going to be facing criminal charges.
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Yeah - I dunno. Keep in mind a large portion of the fanbase are WWE fans. This won't be too detrimental to the UFC. His future was unsure as it is. It remains as such. But Dana and co. could spin that redemption/comeback story for a ton of money.
BlairBones said:
Yeah - I dunno. Keep in mind a large portion of the fanbase are WWE fans. This won't be too detrimental to the UFC. His future was unsure as it is. It remains as such. But Dana and co. could spin that redemption/comeback story for a ton of money.
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For sure... It is all on Conor now... Dude has to be out of his mind on drugs. It's not like this is the first time he's flipped out.
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Dana already questioned if Connor was on drugs when talking to media. It will be his "out".
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For sure. It's not crazy to think he's doing tons of coke. It's what I would expect.
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If he gets cut from the UFC he is done. He is a star but not a very bright one. Sports stars are put to D list very fast. He has one major fight with FMJ that is not enough for him to go solo and make millions... Well, maybe a few million but he would burn though that quick as s---... This very well could be his downfall..... He is going to have to kiss some major *** to have the UFC not cut him and then he is going to be fighting for way less then he would have not doing this s---.... And he is going to have to fight now.. All his money is about to be spent on lawyers and payouts.
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He wishes the ufc would let him go. He’s bigger than the ufc at this point. His following is massive. One of the top athletes on social media. That’s all the advertising he needs for fights.
Flound said:
Rise, fall, redemption.
The cycle of modern celebrity drama.
There is a Cosby exception. Some things you don’t come back from.
This ain’t that bad.
Basically, this isn’t the end. It’s the start of the middle.
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Same thing happened with Jones, until he pissed hot again. After his last victory over Cormier, everyone was like, "Wow, what a hero, to come back from the brink like that!" They were all willing to move on from his past f--- ups. This will be no different unless, as you put it, he doubles down.
osubuckeye4 said:
The difference between what Conor did and other incidents involving UFC fighters like Jesse Taylor, Rampage, Junie Browning, etc is that Conor did all of this at a UFC sanctioned event towards UFC contracted fighters.
That's the only reason why I don't see how they could ever bring him back under the UFC banner... if they do and something remotely similar to this happens, UFC is going to be sued into oblivion by whomever McGregor endangers/harms under their watch.
All of that said... this isn't "the end" for Conor as a celebrity. He'll have a ton of other opportunities in the long term. I don't know if he will choose to pursue them or not, but they will for sure be there.
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Lol what?? The difference is those guys were just living their lives and got f---ed up. This was a planned move by Connor to try to hype up his brand and next fight. Problem is he went too far.
Some serious overreacting in here.
There was a dude who was alleged to have stolen a back pack with no proof in NY was held in Rikers Island for 3 yrs.
Connor is shown on camera throwing things at a bus, breaking windows in NY, lets see what happens.
Im tired of celebrity and rich people getting away with these kind of things. Hold them accountable like any person would be.
BadassCoffee said:
Lol what?? The difference is those guys were just living their lives and got f---ed up. This was a planned move by Connor to try to hype up his brand and next fight. Problem is he went too far.
Some serious overreacting in here.
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It's the difference between getting blackout drunk on the weekend and destroying a bar and injuring random patrons, vs, storming into an event your employer was throwing and smashing the place up and assaulting co-workers.
You will generally keep your job if you do the first one.
You do the second, there is no way they keep you on board because now they are potentially liable if you get out of control again
If Conor isn't cut, let the conspiracy theories that UFC is WWF start flying
JonnyRico said:
"The other hand" is completely irrelevant. Khabib not getting out and escalating things is called the SMART thing to do. The attempt to spin in it into "Well don't start nothing there won't be nothing" narrative is such a fail IMO.
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It absolutely is irrelevant. It’s just my personal peevish gripe. Though I will say, if Khabib hadn’t tried to pull up on Artem Conor wouldn’t have reacted that way. That doesn’t excuse the latter though. His childish behavior is reprehensible here.
