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Eranys said:
Aren't those all bids, tho? I don't want to bid on shit.

I have yet to try a Gen 5 trigger. How much of an improvement is it? This is a minor thing, but I fucking hate those front serrations. I've never understood the need for press checks if you're not a high speed operator. I always know exactly how loaded my firearms are. And I'm one of those people who fit the finger grooves perfectly.
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No there is a buy now for 525

No sure on gen5 trigger. I have a gen 4 that is good I’ve never had to do any work to it like I’ve done to my H&K’s
 
Just bought a police trade in Gen4 G30, thanks to Mr. Trig here.

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I personally suck at shooting Glocks. I have the low-left problem. Flinch, I guess.

The only Glock I have that I shoot well is the G41, in 45ACP. I can hit everything with that gun. That's what I used as my side arm on Kokiak Island.

I know 45 ACP is not the preferred bear caliber, but I just shoot that gun so good. Just need a few head shots, and a few chest shots to stop the bear. And with 15 rounds, I figured it would be okay.

If I was going to do it again, I would take a 10mm. But...maybe that would make me flinch and not shoot as good. There's more than one thing to consider, besides the power factor.
 
mrducks said:
I personally suck at shooting Glocks. I have the low-left problem. Flinch, I guess.

The only Glock I have that I shoot well is the G41, in 45ACP. I can hit everything with that gun. That's what I used as my side arm on Kokiak Island.

I know 45 ACP is not the preferred bear caliber, but I just shoot that gun so good. Just need a few head shots, and a few chest shots to stop the bear. And with 15 rounds, I figured it would be okay.

If I was going to do it again, I would take a 10mm. But...maybe that would make me flinch and not shoot as good. There's more than one thing to consider, besides the power factor.
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My shooting low left with my Glock 19 was almost always too much finger on the trigger, and was occasionally my pinky finger squeezing too tight. I have this problem with Glocks of that size unless I consciously avoid it. However, the frame size of the G20 fits my hand perfectly, and I shoot that one better in general. The G30 should have the same geometry, just with a shorter grip, so I am confident it will fit me well. This is the first time I've ever bought a gun without handling it first. There just aren't any in stores anymore.

You should try a G20 or G21. You might be surprised how well you shoot it.

.45acp is suboptimal on browns, but if you are carrying that, just make sure you have a hardcast Buffalo Bore or Underwood round made for the purpose. But even better is if you can modify for .45 Super, which can be an excellent brown bear round. An HK USP 45 is in my future for exactly this purpose. Those can shoot Super in their stock configuration.
 
mrducks said:
I personally suck at shooting Glocks. I have the low-left problem. Flinch, I guess.
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The reason most shoot low and left isn't from flinching it is from not pulling the trigger straight back along with your other fingers tightening as you pull the trigger. I have my students hold a pen that clicks from the top softly in their hand and point it forward so the clicker is facing forward like a gun. Now use your trigger finger to click it over and over without moving any of your other fingers. This helps train your fingers to not move when you pull the trigger.

I have heard a lot of people say its too much trigger finger but in all honesty that doesnt matter as long as your other fingers aren't moving. If you put your arm from the elbow to the bottom of your little finger on a desk and put your hand in shooting position. now tighten your 3 non trigger fingers. Notice how your hand moves low and left (if using right hand low and right if using left hand). That is what you have to get rid of. Now put the pen in your hand and work on clicking it without moving it at all.

I still sit in meetings and practice that obviously without making the full click so it doesn't make any noise. Its the repetition that will train your hand to do something it is not use to doing.
 
Trig said:
The reason most shoot low and left isn't from flinching it is from not pulling the trigger straight back along with your other fingers tightening as you pull the trigger. I have my students hold a pen that clicks from the top softly in their hand and point it forward so the clicker is facing forward like a gun. Now use your trigger finger to click it over and over without moving any of your other fingers. This helps train your fingers to not move when you pull the trigger.

I have heard a lot of people say its too much trigger finger but in all honesty that doesnt matter as long as your other fingers aren't moving. If you put your arm from the elbow to the bottom of your little finger on a desk and put your hand in shooting position. now tighten your 3 non trigger fingers. Notice how your hand moves low and left (if using right hand low and right if using left hand). That is what you have to get rid of. Now put the pen in your hand and work on clicking it without moving it at all.

I still sit in meetings and practice that obviously without making the full click so it doesn't make any noise. Its the repetition that will train your hand to do something it is not use to doing.
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Very true about the little finger. Early in my shooting career, I noticed what seemed to be an anomaly at first: I shot guns with a short grip where my pinkey was hanging off better than full size guns. It was 100% due to what you said. I worked this out long ago, but if I'm ever tired or not paying attention, that can still happen to me occasionally.

The too much finger on the trigger is a very real thing, too. It can happen when I'm using the trigger reset, but doesn't seem to happen when I am fully releasing the trigger between shots. But again, it only happens on certain guns due to the way my hand is shaped. It never happens on my G20 or similar sized pistols. It's just something I need to consciously avoid when shooting certain guns.
 
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Eranys said:
Very true about the little finger. Early in my shooting career, I noticed what seems to be an anomaly at first: I shot guns with a short grip where my punks was hanging off better than full size guns. It was 100% due to what you said. I worked this out long ago, but if I'm ever tired or not paying attention, that can still happen to me occasionally.

The too much finger on the trigger is a very real thing, too. It can happen when I'm using the trigger reset, but doesn't seem to happen when I am fully releasing the trigger between shots. But again, it only happens on certain guns due to the way my hand is shaped. It never happens on my G20 or similar sized pistols. It's just something I need to consciously avoid when shooting certain guns.
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I agree it is a real thing but the reason I said it really doesn't matter is because I know a lot of shooters damn good shooters that stick their whole finger through and pull the trigger between the pad of their finger and the DIP joint. Also if you ever shoot with gloves on you have to get a little more finger on it. Without gloves I use between pad and tip of finger which allows me to pull straight back.
 

Sig Sauer’s M250 Machine Gun Gets Shorter And Lighter After Army Feedback​

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Sig Sauer’s M250 Machine Gun Gets Shorter And Lighter After Army Feedback

Changes that led to the M250A1 mirror the evolution of the Army's new M7 rifle from Sig into the M8 carbine after criticism.
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Feedback from the U.S. Army has led to an improved A1 version of the service’s still very new 6.8x51mm M250 light machine gun. Manufacturer Sig Sauer has shortened and lightened the barrel, reduced the overall weight, changed the buttstock, and made various other improvements to improve reliability and ease of use. The evolution of the M250 mirrors the transformation of Sig’s M7 rifle for the U.S. Army into the M8 carbine, where weight and bulk were major points of criticism of the original design.
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FN Introduce M3M ENDURANCE​

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FN Introduce M3M ENDURANCE

I had an opportunity to put a few rounds through an M3M during a recent FN range day and the cyclic rate of 1,100 rounds per minute, twice that of the M2, is something to be experienced.The FN land and sea pintle mount is incredibly stable and the shoulder support helps rapidly traverse and...
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50 BMG (or 12.7x99mm) from an M2 Browning is a force multiplier, but .50 BMG from the M3M is next level. The faster firing M3 was developed for aircraft use but has since found land and sea applications. Now FN-Browning Group's defense and security division have announced the M3M Endurance which extends the M3's operational lifetime from 40,000 to 60,000 rounds and increases preventive maintenance intervals from 5,000 to an impressive 15,000 rounds, reducing the amount of maintenance work needed on the platform during its service life.
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Truly incredible that a 109 year old design is still in active use and receiving modern upgrades. John Browning - what a guy. Easily the greatest firearms designer of all time.
 

The M4A1 Carbine Evolution​

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The M4A1 Carbine Evolution

The M4A1 is one of the most recognizable U.S.military carbines of the modern era.Still, the weapon that entered service in the 1990s is not quite the same M4A1 that soldiers and special operations forces use today.
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The M4A1 is one of the most recognizable U.S. military carbines of the modern era. Still, the weapon that entered service in the 1990s is not quite the same M4A1 that soldiers and special operations forces use today. Its development has been driven by a recurring problem: how to keep the M4's compact size while making it withstand the much higher firing schedules of combat and intensive training.
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