The Marvels (Spoiler Discussion)
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Post credit scene. Monica Rambeau shows up in a parallel universe where the x men 100% exist. She sees her mom Maria as Binary captain Marvel outfit, but since its a new universe, she has no idea that it's her daughter. Beast shows up, CGI, sounds like Kelsey Grammer, but not 100% sure. He asks how the new girl is doing and that Charles wants an update. I was hoping for different X-Men, not Kelsey Grammer.
rhino78 said:
Post credit scene. Monica Rambeau shows up in a parallel universe where the x men 100% exist. She sees her mom Maria as Binary captain Marvel outfit, but since its a new universe, she has no idea that it's her daughter. Beast shows up, CGI, sounds like Kelsey Grammer, but not 100% sure. He asks how the new girl is doing and that Charles wants an update. I was hoping for different X-Men, not Kelsey Grammer.
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At least it wasn't Kelsey Grammers wife and her IBS?
osubuckeye4 said:
At least it wasn't Kelsey Grammers wife and her IBS?
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I couldn't tell if the cgi was good or not, but it at least looked like the comic version, not the X2 version. It might not have been Kelsey.
https://x.com/umnerdmedisse/status/1722285077055279132?s=20
mabrown45 said:
The lack of interest in this is making them consider Hugh Jackman's Wolverine and Tobey's Spiderman lead new movies/avengers
Even talks of bringing back almost everyone. They are desperate
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And even if they do that, it still won't work cause they have no clue that the reason they're failing is because of the woke pandering and not because there's new characters.
GoodCat said:
And even if they do that, it still won't work cause they have no clue that
the reason they're failing is because of the woke pandering
and not because there's new characters.
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Eh, I think some of that is overblown.
There have been a few MCU offerings that failed for that reason... but the reality is that the MCU is just f---ed out at this point, and that was going to happen regardless of which direction Disney/Marvel went with it.
They released so much content, non-diehards were bound to eventually run into fatigue and tap out. I think their biggest misstep was going with the small screen stuff on D+ and trying to weave it all together. It's just too much for casuals like me to keep up with... especially when I do watch some of those shows and they end up being rather pointless to the larger story (Hawkeye, Moon Knight, etc)
It doesn't help that when I try to bring that up, superhero diehard fans like JR give you lectures about how YOU NEED TO WATCH EVERYTHING and it's your own fault for not watching the prior 30 movies and 10 TV shows to understand what is going on and fully experience it.
In conclusion, it's a mix of:
- Nothing lasts forever... and the MCU was always going to eventually go from mainstream to more niche no matter what Marvel did
- They oversaturated it and gave people too much of a good thing (and watered that good thing down in the process with the D+ offerings)
- They did over embrace the "woke" and diversity stuff a bit... but, I don't think that in and of itself is the reason for a project like Marvels bombing as hard as it is
I think that going forward, the MCU is going to be more of a hit or miss endeavor for Marvel and Disney. You'll have projects like Guardians of the Galaxy 3 which will do great... but then you'll have things like The Marvels which will bomb. The majority will probably fall somewhere in between the two though.
I do think that the days of $2+ billion MCU movies are done, and Disney/Marvel will need to accept that and focus their efforts on the diehards as opposed to trying to bring everyone in to all of these.
GoodCat said:
And even if they do that, it still won't work cause they have no clue that the reason they're failing is because of the woke pandering and not because there's new characters.
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Quality over quantity has been the pretty clear issue during the Chapek era. Stretched themselves too thin. Things had to get worse before they start to get better.
Ok just got done seeing the movie. Definitely a lot of thoughts...
Stuff I liked:
The chemistry between the 3 leads is definitely a highlight. You can definitely tell they all had a fun time working together. Brie Larson does a better job in this movie than in previous versions I feel. Iman Vellani is a star in the making. Loved how they built off her story in her series. The family aspect of the show making its way over to the movie is also well done. I'm excited to see more of both Teyonah Parris and Lashawna Lynch in the future too with the introduction of Binary.
The action sequences were a lot of fun. The way they used the location-swapping for a lot of the action was pretty creative I thought. It was a lot of fun to watch whether they didn't have control over it or when they used it to their advantage.
Enjoyed the introduction of Beast also. Thought the design for the character looked a lot better than previous versions. Going the CG route does allowed them to get a few details in the face that look a little more like the animated version of the character. I also love that he is one of the first X-Men we see interacting with MCU characters aside from Professor X in Dr. Strange 2
Some stuff I didn't like:
Classic underwhelming villain that the MCU is known for having. I thought the characters motivations made sense, but there was not enough time to flesh out the character and at times her performance didn't fit the tone of the movie
As much as I liked the shorter runtime, it was pretty clear the movie was trimmed down from a longer cut. Would have liked more stuff with Fury and the Khan family. Didn't feel like Fury really had much of a purpose other than looking over the family.
The singing planet was funny at first but went on just a tad too long, in my opinion. Definitely a scene I can see turning a lot of people off.
JonnyRico said:
Ok just got done seeing the movie. Definitely a lot of thoughts...
Stuff I liked:
The chemistry between the 3 leads is definitely a highlight. You can definitely tell they all had a fun time working together. Brie Larson does a better job in this movie than in previous versions I feel. Iman Vellani is a star in the making. Loved how they built off her story in her series. The family aspect of the show making its way over to the movie is also well done. I'm excited to see more of both Teyonah Parris and Lashawna Lynch in the future too with the introduction of Binary.
The action sequences were a lot of fun. The way they used the location-swapping for a lot of the action was pretty creative I thought. It was a lot of fun to watch whether they didn't have control over it or when they used it to their advantage.
Enjoyed the introduction of Beast also. Thought the design for the character looked a lot better than previous versions. Going the CG route does allowed them to get a few details in the face that look a little more like the animated version of the character. I also love that he is one of the first X-Men we see interacting with MCU characters aside from Professor X in Dr. Strange 2
Some stuff I didn't like:
Classic underwhelming villain that the MCU is known for having. I thought the characters motivations made sense, but there was not enough time to flesh out the character and at times her performance didn't fit the tone of the movie
As much as I liked the shorter runtime, it was pretty clear the movie was trimmed down from a longer cut. Would have liked more stuff with Fury and the Khan family. Didn't feel like Fury really had much of a purpose other than looking over the family.
The singing planet was funny at first but went on just a tad too long, in my opinion. Definitely a scene I can see turning a lot of people off.
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Did the cg beast look good?
Was it Grammer?
I saw a Twitter video that was poor quality.
rhino78 said:
Did the cg beast look good?
Was it Grammer?
I saw a Twitter video that was poor quality.
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It was voiced by Grammer, yes. The CGI looked pretty good for the most part. The design felt similar to how he looked in the animated series which I liked