The Strikers Era

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Originally posted by: wolf
Date: November 15, 2011 at 02:02 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/the-strikers-era.43314/
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It seems that the day of the wrestler is starting to dwindle. Strikers are ruling the ranks as we speak. Junior Dos Santos, Anderson Silva, Jose Aldo, Bones Jones. While Cruz, Edgar, and GSP are wrestlers predominantly, they're technically sound strikers.
While wrestling is as important as ever, it seems that striking is becoming even more important.
 
Originally posted by: roorippin
Date: November 15, 2011 at 02:06 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/the-strikers-era.43314/
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While it may seem like more fighters when you say Jon Jones isnt a wrestler, and name JDS twice, wrestling is still the dominant martial art.
 
Originally posted by: wolf
Date: November 15, 2011 at 02:12 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/the-strikers-era.43314/
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Thanks Roo didn't catch that. And while Jones is a wrestler, I've always seen him more as a striker. He definitely likes to stand and uses his wrestling to get guys down to throw elbows. hes so well rounded you could go either way with him I think.
 
Originally posted by: roorippin
Date: November 15, 2011 at 02:15 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/the-strikers-era.43314/
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wolf said:
Thanks Roo didn't catch that. And while Jones is a wrestler, I've always seen him more as a striker. He definitely likes to stand and uses his wrestling to get guys down to throw elbows. hes so well rounded you could go either way with him I think.
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I think that Being a one dimensional wrestler is becoming a lot less valuable than it was two or so years ago. Being a solid striker is what is getting the wrestlers to the top, but having a good wrestling base is the only thing enabling them to strike. I think that having a wrestling base is far more valuable than a striking base, but only having one or the other is no good. The "striker" champions all have great counter wrestling and jiu jitsu, and the "wrestling" champions has solid striking.
 
Originally posted by: Flound
Date: November 15, 2011 at 02:34 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/the-strikers-era.43314/
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wolf said:
It seems that the day of the wrestler is starting to dwindle. Strikers are ruling the ranks as we speak. Junior Dos Santos, Anderson Silva, Jose Aldo, Bones Jones, Junior Dos Santos. While Cruz, Edgar, and GSP are wrestlers predominantly, they're technically sound strikers. While wrestling is as important as ever, it seems that striking is becoming even more important.
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Junior's so good you had to list him twice?
(caught it before the edit)
Jones is a JUCO national champion. I don't think it's fair to say he's not a wrestler. I think he's excellent at both. Much like Edgar, GSP and Cruz. Wrestlers who can strike - maybe not one punch KO artists but really good, if not great, strikers. I think that proves your point that striking is making its presence felt. Go back a few years and you saw the list sprinkled with ground fighters with suspect or passable striking at best. Great fighters at their specialities, but not strikers. Ortiz, Hughes, Mir, Randleman, Newton, Miletech and Coleman.
 
Originally posted by: JonnyF
Date: November 15, 2011 at 02:40 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/the-strikers-era.43314/
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wolf said:
Thanks Roo didn't catch that. And while Jones is a wrestler, I've always seen him more as a striker. He definitely likes to stand and uses his wrestling to get guys down to throw elbows. hes so well rounded you could go either way with him I think.
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GnP used to be attributed to wrestlers. How the times have changed.
 
Originally posted by: wolf
Date: November 15, 2011 at 02:42 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/the-strikers-era.43314/
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Flound said:
Ortiz, Hughes, Mir, Randleman, Newton, Miletech and Coleman.
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How dare you leave out Couture, Tanner, Sherk :shock: haha
 
Originally posted by: SilvaP4PKing
Date: November 15, 2011 at 02:49 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/the-strikers-era.43314/
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I think this is the mma/athlete era.
Jones was just starting 3years ago(yes, with a wrestling background), but as a thremendous athlete(and freaky body, i think i should add) he was able to overcome more technical fighters than him.
JDS had no background whatsoever, started jiu jitsu 6 years ago, quickly fell in love for the boxing classes too. Another great athlete, always in shape, without 15years of fighting experience and already the ufc heavyweight champ.
 
Originally posted by: CoffeeAndBeer
Date: November 15, 2011 at 02:53 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/the-strikers-era.43314/
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They didn't like to hear this on
the other site
:
A Boxer = Baddest Man On The Planet... MMA is tossed on it's head
(thread)
 
Originally posted by: SilvaP4PKing
Date: November 15, 2011 at 03:02 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/the-strikers-era.43314/
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CoffeeAndBeer said:
They didn't like to hear this on
the other site
:
A Boxer = Baddest Man On The Planet... MMA is tossed on it's head
(thread)
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Is a boxer with good ground knowledge who doesn't need to use it because his takedown defense is also great. JDS started with jiu jitsu and he is a mma fighter, c'mon son
.
 
Originally posted by: Duz10
Date: November 15, 2011 at 03:02 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/the-strikers-era.43314/
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OPs got a point. Wrestlers used to strike only while on top w/gnp. Now, they stand and strike more than use gnp. Then add those with striking bases and you get a majority of fighters who prefer being on the feet. Aldo was a grappler way before a kickboxer.
 
Originally posted by: Puxin
Date: November 15, 2011 at 03:39 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/the-strikers-era.43314/
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Duz10 said:
OPs got a point.
Wrestlers used to strike only while on top w/gnp
. Now, they stand and strike more than use gnp. Then add those with striking bases and you get a majority of fighters who prefer being on the feet. Aldo was a grappler way before a kickboxer.
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Chuck Liddell?
 
Originally posted by: Vitooch
Date: November 15, 2011 at 03:50 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/the-strikers-era.43314/
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This is the era of champions who are really well-rounded fighters.
Aldo has great takedowns and TDD, JDS has an excellent grappling base, Anderson has excellent BJJ, etc...
 
Originally posted by: ResoluteProtector
Date: November 15, 2011 at 08:43 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/the-strikers-era.43314/
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wolf said:
It seems that the day of the wrestler is starting to dwindle. Strikers are ruling the ranks as we speak. Junior Dos Santos, Anderson Silva, Jose Aldo, Bones Jones. While Cruz, Edgar, and GSP are wrestlers predominantly, they're technically sound strikers.
While wrestling is as important as ever, it seems that striking is becoming even more important.
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Thanks, you've all but insured that Dos Santos will lose his title.
While it would appear to be about striking, has anyone ever taken a look at the MMA wrestling statistics for these Champions? Most if not all, have very high numbers in the wrestling department. Yes, even Anderson Silva. :shock:
 
Originally posted by: PsychoIcon
Date: November 15, 2011 at 08:49 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/the-strikers-era.43314/
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ResoluteProtector said:
wolf said:
It seems that the day of the wrestler is starting to dwindle. Strikers are ruling the ranks as we speak. Junior Dos Santos, Anderson Silva, Jose Aldo, Bones Jones. While Cruz, Edgar, and GSP are wrestlers predominantly, they're technically sound strikers.
While wrestling is as important as ever, it seems that striking is becoming even more important.
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Thanks, you've all but insured that Dos Santos will lose his title.
While it would appear to be about striking, has anyone ever taken a look at the MMA wrestling statistics for these Champions? Most if not all, have very high numbers in the wrestling department. Yes, even Anderson Silva. :shock:
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Everyone will eventually lose there Title, but Jds will not lose his anytime soon. I believe Cain will be the guy that probably take its back from him. Its gonna have to be that Grinding type of match, if not Brock but hes not going to get past Overeem.
 
Originally posted by: Moranis
Date: November 15, 2011 at 08:52 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/the-strikers-era.43314/
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Puxin said:
Duz10 said:
OPs got a point.
Wrestlers used to strike only while on top w/gnp
. Now, they stand and strike more than use gnp. Then add those with striking bases and you get a majority of fighters who prefer being on the feet. Aldo was a grappler way before a kickboxer.
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Chuck Liddell?
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exactly. There are just more Chuck Liddell's floating around, but the reality is without takedown defense a striker is useless.
 
Originally posted by: ResoluteProtector
Date: November 15, 2011 at 08:55 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/the-strikers-era.43314/
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PsychoIcon said:
ResoluteProtector said:
wolf said:
It seems that the day of the wrestler is starting to dwindle. Strikers are ruling the ranks as we speak. Junior Dos Santos, Anderson Silva, Jose Aldo, Bones Jones. While Cruz, Edgar, and GSP are wrestlers predominantly, they're technically sound strikers.
While wrestling is as important as ever, it seems that striking is becoming even more important.
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Thanks, you've all but insured that Dos Santos will lose his title.
While it would appear to be about striking, has anyone ever taken a look at the MMA wrestling statistics for these Champions? Most if not all, have very high numbers in the wrestling department. Yes, even Anderson Silva. :shock:
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Everyone will eventually lose there Title, but Jds will not lose his anytime soon. I believe Cain will be the guy that probably take its back from him. Its gonna have to be that Grinding type of match, if not Brock but hes not going to get past Overeem.
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As soon as an "era" begins, it ends even more expeditiously.
 
Originally posted by: Flound
Date: November 15, 2011 at 09:15 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/the-strikers-era.43314/
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wolf said:
Flound said:
Ortiz, Hughes, Mir, Randleman, Newton, Miletech and Coleman.
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How dare you leave out Couture, Tanner, Sherk :shock: haha
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I actually thought about adding Randy, but he was a boxer in the military and while a Greco-Roman guy, he was already good at multiple disciplines. The prototype if you will. Sherk and Tanner, while wrestlers, didn't have a single title defense so I left them off.
 
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