The Top American MMA Fighters of All-Time (1-5)

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: Moranis
Date: August 10, 2011 at 09:36 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/the-top-american-mma-fighters-of-all-time-1-5.41031/

LitesOut13 said:
Moranis said:
I'd actually put Kenny Shamrock on that list before most of those guys. Ken was MMA in the mid-90's and
it was his feud with Tito that put the UFC back on the map in the early Zuffa days.
And let's be realistic here, Ken Shamrock beat (or would have if they had judges) every single other great early MMA fighter. Had he stayed retired after his fight with Brian Johnston on December 7, 2006, he would have gone down as the greatest American ever. At that time he was 23-5-2, with victories over Severn, Kimo, Bas x2, Funaki x2, Smith (both Patrick and Maurice), Yanagisawa, Hume. His draws were against Royce and Taktarov, but Shamrock dominated both fights and would have easily earned a decision victory had judges existed (it was the Taktarov fight that got Semafore to appoint judges thereafter). His losses are Severn, Royce, Funaki, and Suzuki x2 (and many think there was something shady with those two fights). He was the very first King of Pancrase and likewise was the first UFC Superfight champion (which later became the HW title).
Ken tarnished his legacy so much recently that people just forget the early career, which is as good as anyone else in history.
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No it was Chuck vs Tito and Chuck vs Randy that did that
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UFC 40 was the first PPV since the early days to crack 100,000 buys coming in at 150,000. That was November 2002. The UFC didn't hit that number again until UFC 52 in April 2005 with Chuck v. Randy 2. It was the Tito v. Shamrock fight that sort of put the UFC back in the spotlight and it was the success of that show that kept Zuffa in the game so-to-speak and helped get TUF on the air with Spike. They knew the hunger was there again if they could just ignite it. Ortiz v. Shamrock 1 did that.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: Knippz
Date: August 10, 2011 at 10:41 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/the-top-american-mma-fighters-of-all-time-1-5.41031/

CoffeeAndBeer said:
The Top
U.S.
MMA Fighters of All-Time - 1 thru 5
1 - Jay Dee
2 - Hendo
3 - Hughes
4 - Rampage
5 - Chuck
The Top
American
MMA Fighters of All-Time - 1 thru 5
1 - Georges St-Pierre
2 - Anderson da Silva
3 - Minotauro
4 - Jay Dee
5 - Hendo
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Hard to take your intelligent post seriously when you put GSP above Anderson ALL-TIME. But I'm leaving the bait out if you want to bite on this argument. No way, chance, possibility in this realm, outworld, the moons, mars, or the milky way has GSP done more in his career than Anderson.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: Moranis
Date: August 10, 2011 at 04:26 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/the-top-american-mma-fighters-of-all-time-1-5.41031/

Knippz said:
CoffeeAndBeer said:
The Top
U.S.
MMA Fighters of All-Time - 1 thru 5
1 - Jay Dee
2 - Hendo
3 - Hughes
4 - Rampage
5 - Chuck
The Top
American
MMA Fighters of All-Time - 1 thru 5
1 - Georges St-Pierre
2 - Anderson da Silva
3 - Minotauro
4 - Jay Dee
5 - Hendo
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Hard to take your intelligent post seriously when you put GSP above Anderson ALL-TIME. But I'm leaving the bait out if you want to bite on this argument. No way, chance, possibility in this realm, outworld, the moons, mars, or the milky way has GSP done more in his career than Anderson.
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GSP has a better record and just as many top ten wins and has avenged all of his losses. He also doesn't have a glaring weakness (i.e. wrestling) that Anderson has. GSP hasn't fought in two weight classes, but their resumes are pretty damn close from top to bottom.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: darcebandit
Date: August 10, 2011 at 04:46 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/the-top-american-mma-fighters-of-all-time-1-5.41031/

I agree GSP > Anderson Silva

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: LitesOutPHX
Date: August 10, 2011 at 08:12 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/the-top-american-mma-fighters-of-all-time-1-5.41031/

Anderson Silva wasnt as good earlier in his career but since then I think he has been much better than GSP. He has 4 losses in his career, 1 was from a flying heel hook which is unheard of and another from a DQ. He hasnt had the chance to avenge any of his losses until right now. But since being in the UFC he has dominated much more than GSP IMO. But I will say that Silva and GSP are a close #1 and #2

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: CoffeeAndBeer
Date: August 10, 2011 at 09:50 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/the-top-american-mma-fighters-of-all-time-1-5.41031/

Knippz said:
CoffeeAndBeer said:
The Top
U.S.
MMA Fighters of All-Time - 1 thru 5
1 - Jay Dee
2 - Hendo
3 - Hughes
4 - Rampage
5 - Chuck
The Top
American
MMA Fighters of All-Time - 1 thru 5
1 - Georges St-Pierre
2 - Anderson da Silva
3 - Minotauro
4 - Jay Dee
5 - Hendo
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Hard to take your intelligent post seriously when you put GSP above Anderson ALL-TIME. But I'm leaving the bait out if you want to bite on this argument. No way, chance, possibility in this realm, outworld, the moons, mars, or the milky way has GSP done more in his career than Anderson.
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It's hard to take your argument seriously when you make such an exaggerated claim (it's like you're trying to convince yourself).
Honestly, it's really a toss-up; I go back and forth.
Anderson Silva finishes fights. Gisp has faced tougher competition.
It's close. But eventually, I see Gisp's overall accomplishments out-weighing Anderson's talent, etc.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: redd1
Date: August 11, 2011 at 12:45 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/the-top-american-mma-fighters-of-all-time-1-5.41031/

where it breaks down for me is i can see anderson doing just as good or better than than gsp did against all of gsp's opponents(if they were legit middleweights) where as i can't say the same for gsp against anderson's opponents(if they were legit welterweights)