The whole Rashad Evans, Jon Jones, Jackson Camp thing

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: BabyJayKoscheck
Date: March 20, 2011 at 07:39 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/the-whole-rashad-evans-jon-jones-jackson-camp-thing.36884/

So Rashad will probably go to Grudge Training center with Trevor Wittman right? I mean I know they pretty much work together alot and swap fighters around so that would make the most sense imo.
Do you think the other guys will take sides? I would imagine the guys that have been training with Rashad forever (Jardine, Villasenor, Van Arsdale) would sympathize with Rashad. It will probably be pretty awkward and polarizing between the two camps I would think. I can see how Rashad would feel a little slighted cause Jacksons kinda jumped on the Jones bandwagon and pretty much said "well see ya later 'Shad".
Anyway I think Jonny Jones would finish Rashad in much the same fashion he did Shogun but a round quicker. Sucks to be Rashad

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: vfrex
Date: March 20, 2011 at 07:50 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/the-whole-rashad-evans-jon-jones-jackson-camp-thing.36884/

I think any tension or feud is fabricated to sell the fight.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: smartigan
Date: March 20, 2011 at 07:59 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/the-whole-rashad-evans-jon-jones-jackson-camp-thing.36884/

Rashad Evans says he is done with Greg Jackson's team -- ow.ly/4i5VX
Here is Greg Jackson's response to Rashad saying he is leaving. Jackson also says he will have nothing to do w/ the fight ow.ly/4i5Zd

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: REDRUM
Date: March 20, 2011 at 10:11 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/the-whole-rashad-evans-jon-jones-jackson-camp-thing.36884/

Rashad's Tweets this am:
http://twitter.com/sugarashadevans (see all his tweets below after he woke up)
READ IT FROM THE BOTTOM TWEET UP
# @RehanAhmed01 that was
the UFC that had me go in the cage!
The moment belonged 2 Jones 4 sure! Respect! half a minute ago via Twitterrific in reply to RehanAhmed01
# I know @jonnybones style well cuz we trained 2gether & he knows mine.
Now it's just a matter of who payed more attention or held back more.
23 minutes ago via Twitterrific
# @danstrandberg
so I decided 2 leave Greg because I felt like he didn't have my best interest anymore. Greg is not the same coach he use 2 b.
about 1 hour ago via Twitterrific in reply to danstrandberg
# @danstrandberg
Greg brought this situation about. He brought Jones on board a while back against my wishes & here we r today.
about 1 hour ago via Twitterrific in reply to danstrandberg
# @pjrushaccy no worries the fans r always like 2 me! But then they wait hrs 4 me 2 sign something or take a picture. They r fake! about 1 hour ago via Twitterrific in reply to pjrushaccy
# @Sam_Blackburn
I will not use Greg ever again.. I really haven't used him in a while anyways.. In my last 2 fights I trained with him 5x's
.. about 1 hour ago via Twitterrific in reply to Sam_Blackburn
# With that said I can't wait 4 the chance 2 compete against him!
I no longer will use Greg Jackson as my coach
but we r still coo! 505 4life about 1 hour ago via Twitterrific
# Many of u probably already seen that I got offered the title shot & decided 2 take it. @jonnybones fought amazing! I'm very happy 4 him! about 1 hour ago via Twitterrific

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: Tgilb2007
Date: March 20, 2011 at 10:51 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/the-whole-rashad-evans-jon-jones-jackson-camp-thing.36884/

Greg didn't bring this situation out. Rashad and Jon Jones did, by excelling in the highest level of competition. The problem really becomes now, "This dude is my friend, and almost like a brother to me". But, at the end of the day, I am happy to see that Evans and Jones will square off, and fight in the cage. Its a business, a contact sport, and it is a SOLO sport, not a team sport. Yes, your team helps you prepare, train, and improve, but at the end of the day, it is only 1 vs 1 when the cage door closes.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: Pandragon
Date: March 20, 2011 at 10:52 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/the-whole-rashad-evans-jon-jones-jackson-camp-thing.36884/

This is not the first time a camp v camp right as taken place. It is just the first time that such high level fighters, in the UFC at least, have been pegged to fight.
It sounds like Jones and Evans, despite being in the same camp, are not even friends neccesarily. Which is fine, who says you have to be friends with everyone you work with.
What it really sounds like "caused" the rift is that Greg Jackson, and indeed Evans himself, realized the potential in Jones and really believed that he would be competing for the championship. It is one thing in Evans' eyes I guess the train Keith Jardine, who no one thinks will really ever compete for the title, and training someone else you think has a realistic chance at it.
Not sure what I think about that yet
I guess I get the point. Evans, despite his words, wanted to train at Jackson's camp and by those coaches. He doesn't want those coaches training the guy he is going to fight, because the assumption is he thinks they are the best coaches.
Still - from a business prespective, it would be stupid for Jackson to TURN AWAY a potential champion.

 

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Originally posted by: ACOGSCOPE
Date: March 20, 2011 at 01:23 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/the-whole-rashad-evans-jon-jones-jackson-camp-thing.36884/

Sounds like Evans was disrespected by Jackson. But Jackson gets a small purse from all of his fighters. Evans needs to keep that in mind.
I can see why Evans is upset. Evans was there first. Jackson kinda brings bad karma to his camp. Remember teh Deigo leaving because of GSP.
I dont know what to think of Greg Jackson camp. People will always say his camp is amazing by default due to who trains there.....The truth being told is Carwin trains somewhere else, Evans trains somewhere else. When the fight comes, that is when Jackson is in their corner.
I dont know.......This is interesting and I hope we get more dirt on Jackson in the coming weeks.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: MDH
Date: March 20, 2011 at 01:29 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/the-whole-rashad-evans-jon-jones-jackson-camp-thing.36884/

I find it interesting that when Evans was getting his shot at the title that Jones and Rashad said he wouldn't fight each other even for the title. The moment Rashad gets hurt and Jones get the shot Evans tune changes. I'm not faulting the guy for wanting his shot at the title but it's hypocritical to change stances once the shoe is on the other foot.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: Gnarcore
Date: March 20, 2011 at 02:41 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/the-whole-rashad-evans-jon-jones-jackson-camp-thing.36884/

ACOGSCOPE said:
Sounds like Evans was disrespected by Jackson. But Jackson gets a small purse from all of his fighters. Evans needs to keep that in mind.
I can see why Evans is upset. Evans was there first. Jackson kinda brings bad karma to his camp. Remember teh Deigo leaving because of GSP.
I dont know what to think of Greg Jackson camp. People will always say his camp is amazing by default due to who trains there.....The truth being told is Carwin trains somewhere else, Evans trains somewhere else. When the fight comes, that is when Jackson is in their corner.
I dont know.......This is interesting and I hope we get more dirt on Jackson in the coming weeks.
Click to expand...
GSP also mainly trains at tri-star and Nate mostly trains in Colorado.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: GOODNIGHTIRENE
Date: March 20, 2011 at 02:43 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/the-whole-rashad-evans-jon-jones-jackson-camp-thing.36884/

i just dont see how rashad beats jones.....i really dont think anyone but cain and ubereem can beat him.