Thoughts And Input On The Full Version

Originally posted by: grapplethis
Date: May 20, 2009 at 02:46 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/thoughts-and-input-on-the-full-version.13625/

re: subs
2 tips
1) it's not about how hurt he is. it's about how gassed he is. try playing with the stamina bar on. when his stamina gets low, like within a Centimeter of being empty aka totally yellow, go for a sub
2) if you're sub offense is in the 70's, try rotating the stick to get a sub. do it with your palm like your shining something. much more effective.
subs were hard at first. i assure you they're easier against a person.
 
Originally posted by: RawckOn
Date: May 20, 2009 at 03:02 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/thoughts-and-input-on-the-full-version.13625/

grapplethis said:
re: subs
2 tips
1) it's not about how hurt he is. it's about how gassed he is. try playing with the stamina bar on. when his stamina gets low, like within a Centimeter of being empty aka totally yellow, go for a sub
2) if you're sub offense is in the 70's, try rotating the stick to get a sub. do it with your palm like your shining something. much more effective.
subs were hard at first. i assure you they're easier against a person.
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ok good to know, im sure i will get that down.
I still think that defeats the "as real as it gets" aspect of the game. for example 6 of demian maia's subs came in the first round, most guys arent gassed by then. I could give you countless examples of guys that are just phenominal at sub's that submit guys that arent completely gassed. Its stupid that the only way to submit a fighter is to make sure they are really gassed.
 
Originally posted by: Gordon
Date: May 20, 2009 at 03:17 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/thoughts-and-input-on-the-full-version.13625/

Against human players they don't have to be fully gassed. Makes it easier but it isn't fully necessary. Against the computer, yes you need to wear them WAY down. The button mashers online though I have subbed in 30 secs without having them throw a punch.
 
Originally posted by: PDuane
Date: May 20, 2009 at 03:34 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/thoughts-and-input-on-the-full-version.13625/

Im finding that I am not very good on my feet against actual people. I played alot of the demo before the game came out and was beating chuck on the feet on Expert and now I pretty much can't win a fight unless I take them down. I have won 3 fights where my power bar was 3/4 down and my opponents was only half gone by submission. In my opinion the the bar doesn't matter at all against actual people. I guess im really good at tapping buttons.
 
Originally posted by: OnlySSMMA
Date: May 21, 2009 at 02:25 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/thoughts-and-input-on-the-full-version.13625/

Defending Strikes and Kicks online is pretty awkward at times.. it seems like the other guy is throwing head kicks or puches like an automatic machine gun, never getting tired; I cant even block them.Haha, I wonder to myself does this guy/girl have a controller that they automatically programed button sequences on at a touch of a button??????
It does matter though, I just back up, time the shoot in, go for the take down , go for the Sub, think to myself for a moment , "wow, this cool frosty beer on my living room table is really good, oh wait, let me see if the guy/girl got outta my sub attempt, aaahhh another submission, sweet victory.." WorD!! :twisted:
 
Originally posted by: Sedulous
Date: May 22, 2009 at 10:27 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/thoughts-and-input-on-the-full-version.13625/

RawckOn said:
Note : i have only played career and exhibition modes.
Here is my take on the game. First off before i start bashing it, i will say i love it more then i hate it and it was money well spent.
I do have a lot of problems with the game though. First off there are waaaaay to many flash KO's. If i play ten fights almost every one of them is ending up with a flash KO, whereas if i put on a DVD of an event, it would be totally different. I also got one of those fight newsletters and more then once there was all KO's on the card and one TKO. Its a bit ridiculous. I was 4-0 in the beginning of my career mode and then took a fight on a one week notice. The guy KO'd me in less then a minute. Thing was when the replay showed, the guy's punched (it was a right hook) totally missed me. It went right by the front of my face, and yet somehow the wind flash KO'd me. It really took away from the realism of the game and in all honestly it made me feel like it was scripted and that the game had already decided that there was no way i was going to win that fight.
2nd issue. Who needs to rest that often! I train and i take 1, sometimes 2 days off a week. I dont take or need a whole week off. Its a bit ridiculous to have 8 weeks till my fight and have to spend four of those weeks resting.
I haven’t played the online or against a human opponent yet, and i heard its a much different story. But it sucks wanting to be a submission expert on the game and not being able to submit the AI opponent. While i know its possible, they make it WAY to hard. I got maybe 2 subs during the demo and that was it. I started my career off on one of the easier difficulties and the first thing i did was raise my sub skill to 60 or 70 while i was still fighting cans. I couldn’t submit them. Hell i would have them rocked and go for a sub and it still wouldn’t happen. I just think its kinda unreal how hard it is to sub the AI, and it really takes away from the career mode if you want to be a sub wizard like Maia.
I also don’t like the "task" part of getting invited to train with someone else. One of my tasks every time has been to successfully defend a takedown. I just stood there two times and not once did my training partner attempt a takedown. How the hell am i supposed to complete that task if he doesn’t do it? That seems like something that they should have thought of when they made the game.
Also, i made my guy 6' 155lbs. You would think he would look skinnier then the 5'5 155lb guys running around but he doesn’t. He looks as big as a welterweight and its kind of unrealistic.
Like i said before, i love the game more then i dislike the game. These are just some of the things that bother me. I cant wait to get home and play some more, and as i also said before, it was money well spent. I look forward to getting some time against human opponents this weekend.
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I TOTALLY agree with all of this, man! I also thing the CAF is very very limited compared to almost any other game I've played that had some sort of create a character option. I remember playing some obscure wrestling game on regular playstation back in like 1998 that had better options for creating a character. Very limited customization of hair, physiques, facial features, facial hair, tatoo's etc.
Also I think that training would make more sense if it was scheduled daily. Obviously the daily gains wouldn't be as much as the weekly ones, but you could mix it up more. Nobody ever trains just one thing for a whole weak. Seriously if 10 million people are willing to walk around for a 100 hours on World of Warcraft just so they can up there mining and metalsmithing ability then I think MMA fans can handle a daily training regimen for their fighter. Also by making the career mode more complicated like that you could really extend the replay value of the game and people would feel more invested in their CAF.
I also have issues with the weight/height appearance. If you are over 6 feet and weight 155 you are going to be long, and lanky, I can't imagine it's that hard to make it a little more realistic.
 
Originally posted by: EnderWiggin
Date: May 22, 2009 at 03:55 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/thoughts-and-input-on-the-full-version.13625/

The first thing I think of in reply to any complaints is:
Sure, they could do that, but then we'd still be waiting for the game. I'm sure a lot of the obvious issues will be addressed in future releases.
 
Originally posted by: FURY187
Date: May 22, 2009 at 11:27 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/thoughts-and-input-on-the-full-version.13625/

I really only have two problems with this game:
1. why not make Randy DLC?
2. Why can't we use the octagon to our advantage?
As real as it gets for now...
 
Originally posted by: bigskinny22
Date: May 23, 2009 at 12:18 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/thoughts-and-input-on-the-full-version.13625/

FURY187 said:
I really only have two problems with this game:
1. why not make Randy DLC?
2. Why can't we use the octagon to our advantage?
As real as it gets for now...
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Dito i hope Randy comes out on an update and the same with some other guys too (CARWIN etc etc)
I was also expecting to be able to push your opponent into the cage and clinch from there i think its like what one of the previous guys said this is just the first game im sure they will add more to other releases hopefully 1 game per yr like the other sports franchise games.
 
Originally posted by: elfudge35
Date: May 23, 2009 at 12:57 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/thoughts-and-input-on-the-full-version.13625/

bigskinny22 said:
FURY187 said:
I really only have two problems with this game:
1. why not make Randy DLC?
2. Why can't we use the octagon to our advantage?
As real as it gets for now...
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Dito i hope Randy comes out on an update and the same with some other guys too (CARWIN etc etc)
I was also expecting to be able to push your opponent into the cage and clinch from there i think its like what one of the previous guys said this is just the first game im sure they will add more to other releases hopefully 1 game per yr like the other sports franchise games.
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again, Randy won't be in the game, he has an exclusive contract with EA, but I agreet hat Carwin should have been in the game, I don't know if he has some other deal like Randy
 
Originally posted by: ATCMMA
Date: May 23, 2009 at 03:58 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/thoughts-and-input-on-the-full-version.13625/

EA has the rights to Randy Couture, but not Candy Routure..... make it happen THQ (f--- it, make him black if need be)
 
Originally posted by: rhino78
Date: May 23, 2009 at 04:56 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/thoughts-and-input-on-the-full-version.13625/

mmaatc said:
EA has the rights to Randy Couture, but not Candy Routure..... make it happen THQ (f**k it, make him black if need be)
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They use to do that all the time in baseball and basketball games. Jordan would be #33 and his name was different, but he played for the Bulls and was the same position and had all on the same attributes. They did this with Barry Bonds as well. Lets have "Handy" Couture on the game.
 
Originally posted by: EnderWiggin
Date: May 23, 2009 at 06:43 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/thoughts-and-input-on-the-full-version.13625/

rhino78 said:
mmaatc said:
EA has the rights to Randy Couture, but not Candy Routure..... make it happen THQ (f**k it, make him black if need be)
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They use to do that all the time in baseball and basketball games. Jordan would be #33 and his name was different, but he played for the Bulls and was the same position and had all on the same attributes. They did this with Barry Bonds as well. Lets have "Handy" Couture on the game.
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They've been doing that all the way back since Super Tecmo Bowl. :lol:
 
Originally posted by: FURY187
Date: May 24, 2009 at 10:52 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/thoughts-and-input-on-the-full-version.13625/

Why does EA have the rights to Randy? Are they coming out with a MMA game?
 
Originally posted by: Johnny419
Date: May 24, 2009 at 11:20 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/thoughts-and-input-on-the-full-version.13625/

FURY187 said:
Why does EA have the rights to Randy? Are they coming out with a MMA game?
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Command and Conquer Red Alert 3
Gina Carano is in the game too.
 
Originally posted by: cool14
Date: May 24, 2009 at 11:21 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/thoughts-and-input-on-the-full-version.13625/

Guys i need a bit of help. When i get mounted how can i reverse it.
 
Originally posted by: FURY187
Date: May 24, 2009 at 09:08 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/thoughts-and-input-on-the-full-version.13625/

cool14 said:
Guys i need a bit of help. When i get mounted how can i reverse it.
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Press start and go to the action list...
 
Originally posted by: Omega-Red
Date: May 24, 2009 at 09:12 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/thoughts-and-input-on-the-full-version.13625/

do the tutorial, the tutorial is the stepping guide on how to fight, you learn from there
it eliminates the annoying "so what are the controls?" question too
 
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