For those of you that train in jiu jitsu, do you train gi or no gi? Which do you prefer and why? I have always trained no gi but now that I'm taking it more seriously and going to a gym I bought a gi to train in so I can go through the belt system. Im not too thrilled about the gi type techniques but it is what it is. So I was just wondering what everyones experiences and thoughts were on the subject. Either way I love jiu jitsu and I'm happy to be doing it.
We started out gi, but then as we transitioned to just MMA training we went no gi and I vastly preferred it. Rolling and pulling moves with the gi just seemed so artificial, the no gi training seemed more pure and real. Plus a lot less hot, lol, in the un-airconditioned gym, with a nice heatgear rashguard instead of heavy cotton gi, but that was just a bonus.
Brick said:
We started out gi, but then as we transitioned to just MMA training we went no gi and I vastly preferred it. Rolling and pulling moves with the gi just seemed so artificial, the no gi training seemed more pure and real. Plus a lot less hot, lol, in the un-airconditioned gym, with a nice heatgear rashguard instead of heavy cotton gi, but that was just a bonus.
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I trained for the first time in the gi yesterday. It was ok. Kinda weird at first but whatever. I think I will train both. Its definitly hotter, our gym gets hot as heck too. One thing I noticed is locking up and holding on to postitions and submissions seems easier in the gi, theres more friction and grips. No gi its easier to slip oit of things. Both have their perks.
Both. Gi improves your No-Gi game. IT makes you use actual technique rather than just throwin up sub attempts hopin that one sticks.
I train 3 no gi days and 2 gi days a week .
I dont train anymore. But training only gi or only no gi is silly.
It's like saying do you lift free weights or use machines.
You concentrate on the one you want to, but still use the other.
I practice Judo but we are a very ne-waza heavy club. I have been to some neighbouring dojos taht mix BJJ and Judo and the cross training is really nice.
I think Gi vs No-GI depends on what you ar etrying to achieve. If it is MMA specific I can see very little Gi training being an issue
If it is fitness and health and slef defense oriented, keep in midn that people do not walk around in this world intheir underwear all the time, and though they may not have a nice grippable Gi, they sure will have some clothes on that will assist techniques for you.
Even if you do all Gi comeptitions in BJJ having some practice with no-Gi will help undersand movement of the body better, having been forced to grip on someones body and not clothes
I train all Gi
I plan on moving to no-gi later down the line for experience but for now it's all Gi
I love it, and it's more useful in real life situations
Sunfish Hero said:
Both. No-gi is far more practical, however.
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that's a misconception if you mean it's more practical for real world application.
Gi is way better for real self defense since you know...people wear clothes
thedoop said:
that's a misconception if you mean it's more practical for real world application.
Gi is way better for real self defense since you know...people wear clothes
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You go ahead and try a collar choke with a t-shirt.
Sunfish Hero said:
You go ahead and try a collar choke with a t-shirt.
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how about a shirt? a jacket? a sweater? a cardigan?
and it's silly to think a person who trains in a gi can't pull off easy chokes on a guy wearing a t-shirt.
thedoop said:
how about a shirt? a jacket? a sweater? a cardigan?
and it's silly to think a person who trains in a gi can't pull off easy chokes on a guy wearing a t-shirt.
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It's not polite to put words in my mouth. I said a
collar choke,
not all chokes. Sure, people might be wearing clothes, but no-gi trains to use the body instead of the clothes. All humans have bodies, not all humans wear clothes. Let alone clothes that can be used as leverage. I live in California... Most of the year it's t-shirts and or tank tops. Gi training is useful and neat but there are a lot of impracticalities that only make sense if you're wearing the right set of clothes.
Keep in mind, I said no-gi and gi training were both worth doing. I like both and wouldn't give up either. No-gi is simply more practical as it is
always
effective.
I train in both I think the idea of no-gi being more practical makes sense if you're training for MMA but not necessarily for self defense, as you're unlikely to fight someone who doesn't have any clothes on their torso.
demeter said:
I train in both I think the idea of no-gi being more practical makes sense if you're training for MMA but not necessarily for self defense, as you're unlikely to fight someone who doesn't have any clothes on their torso.
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I don't get why that's so hard to understand for people who train no-gi
demeter said:
I train in both I think the idea of no-gi being more practical makes sense if you're training for MMA but not necessarily for self defense, as you're unlikely to fight someone who doesn't have any clothes on their torso.
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thedoop said:
I don't get why that's so hard to understand for people who train no-gi
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I explained quite clearly. I don't understand why it's so hard for you people to understand why gi based techniques are
not always
practical while no-gi techniques are
always
practical.
No-gi uses grips and holds that are always available so long as you are fighting a human with all of his/her limbs. Gi based techniques REQUIRE clothing, and clothing that won't be destroyed easily. You guys make it seem like a t-shirt is some how comparable to a grappling gi. You pointed out occasions where gi techniques might work, but there is NEVER a time no-gi techniques don't work.
If you guys can't understand why techniques that work in any situation are more practical than techniques that work in only some situations... I don't know how to help you.
Sunfish Hero said:
I explained quite clearly. I don't understand why it's so hard for you people to understand why gi based techniques are
not always
practical while no-gi techniques are
always
practical.
No-gi uses grips and holds that are always available so long as you are fighting a human with all of his/her limbs. Gi based techniques REQUIRE clothing, and clothing that won't be destroyed easily. You guys make it seem like a t-shirt is some how comparable to a grappling gi. You pointed out occasions where gi techniques might work, but there is NEVER a time no-gi techniques don't work.
If you guys can't understand why techniques that work in any situation are more practical than techniques that work in only some situations... I don't know how to help you.
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we won't reach anything here let's just agree to disagree
this debate's been had thousands of times already, on every forum.
thedoop said:
we won't reach anything here let's just agree to disagree
this debate's been had thousands of times already, on every forum.
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Hey man, I train both. You said you didn't understand why people like me believe no-gi is more practical. I figured I could help you understand by explaining it clearly.
Sunfish Hero said:
Hey man, I train both. You said you didn't understand why people like me believe no-gi is more practical. I figured I could help you understand by explaining it clearly.
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don't get me wrong man I don't hate no-gi, I'm no "BJJ purist MUST GI" guy
I actually plan on training some no-gi down the line
it is what it is though I suppose, I've been through at least 10 gi vs no-gi threads and it just gets tiring
I tend to agree with Sunfish, but I'm not a purist either way and see both parts of the argument. But to me it came down to that the no-gi techniques are applicable whether or not someone is wearing clothing, while the gi techniques will be helpful in circumstances in which someone has on clothing similar to a heavy gi, which to me seems fairly rare. I just feel that the more universally applicable techniques are better for potential real-life self defense situations. But best case: knowing a bit of everything, as many have stated here.
