Originally posted by: GuidaClayAllDay Date: April 15, 2010 at 06:54 PM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/ufc-115-liddell-vs-franklin-odds-discussion.24630/
Originally posted by: Bigoxx Date: April 15, 2010 at 11:35 PM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/ufc-115-liddell-vs-franklin-odds-discussion.24630/
Originally posted by: GuidaClayAllDay Date: April 16, 2010 at 12:15 AM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/ufc-115-liddell-vs-franklin-odds-discussion.24630/
Originally posted by: weknowhowtolive Date: April 16, 2010 at 12:39 AM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/ufc-115-liddell-vs-franklin-odds-discussion.24630/
Originally posted by: PredictionPain Date: April 16, 2010 at 09:41 AM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/ufc-115-liddell-vs-franklin-odds-discussion.24630/
i need to get a bodog account so i can take advantage of these, jeez louise. barry at the opening line was gorgeous, some of the ones that opened yesterday were insanely mispriced
Originally posted by: PredictionPain Date: April 16, 2010 at 09:45 AM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/ufc-115-liddell-vs-franklin-odds-discussion.24630/
weknowhowtolive said:
I can get Ace as a dog near the time of the fights I'll take that.
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don't hold your breath ... i'm awful at predicting line movement but i'll go ahead and say his price won't get better than -130 by fight time
Originally posted by: MikeyHatTrick Date: April 16, 2010 at 11:14 AM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/ufc-115-liddell-vs-franklin-odds-discussion.24630/
Took 1u on Barry at -130
Thought it was going to get worse than that
i need to develop the skill of prediciting line movements
Im surprised Chuck is the dog in this one
Originally posted by: zach22084 Date: April 16, 2010 at 12:04 PM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/ufc-115-liddell-vs-franklin-odds-discussion.24630/
Originally posted by: TheGreatAwakening Date: April 16, 2010 at 12:50 PM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/ufc-115-liddell-vs-franklin-odds-discussion.24630/
Big wild card for me is Chuck's conditioning. I realize this wasn't his training camp but he looks fat on the show. If he's just chilling and sparring a little I'll be worried. But I think Rich is vulnerable to the KO if Chuck shows up in good shape.
Originally posted by: MikeyHatTrick Date: April 16, 2010 at 06:10 PM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/ufc-115-liddell-vs-franklin-odds-discussion.24630/
Very confused on this fight
I am the biggest Ace nut hugger alive, in fact, i help Rich with his conditioning as he has to carry me haha
As a grad student and former athlete I understand the difficulties in both and respect Rich alot
To me this fight is Chucks fight for the taking
Franklin has never done well against counter strikers ie Anderson, Vitor, Machida
I think Chuck will be able to get his timing down and strike him with an overhand right
someone play this fight out for me
Originally posted by: RisingPhoenix Date: April 16, 2010 at 08:34 PM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/ufc-115-liddell-vs-franklin-odds-discussion.24630/
Yea I really think this fight could go either way. Chuck via vintage counterstike KO. Or Franklin could win by outpointing/outdancing chuck to a decision. I'll prob just sit on the line and take whoever ends up as the dog.
Barry def has a great line. I got 3u's at -115. Should be an excellent opportunity to showcase his skillset.
Originally posted by: shanaconda Date: April 17, 2010 at 05:17 AM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/ufc-115-liddell-vs-franklin-odds-discussion.24630/
Originally posted by: MikeyHatTrick Date: April 17, 2010 at 10:50 AM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/ufc-115-liddell-vs-franklin-odds-discussion.24630/
Originally posted by: silent_nick Date: April 17, 2010 at 12:15 PM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/ufc-115-liddell-vs-franklin-odds-discussion.24630/
It did happen. Many years ago. Rich's first loss. A lot of people give Rich s--- but he's only ever lost to legends of the sport - A Silva, Hendo, Belfort, Machida (okay, Machida's not a legend yet).
Originally posted by: shanaconda Date: April 17, 2010 at 02:07 PM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/ufc-115-liddell-vs-franklin-odds-discussion.24630/
Originally posted by: Burn Date: April 20, 2010 at 01:08 AM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/ufc-115-liddell-vs-franklin-odds-discussion.24630/
I've seen the fight, I can verify its authenticity
It was in Japan I think, but I don't remember as it's been a while. Lyoto won by TKO due to strikes it was a pretty good fight although I recall that the quality of the picture wasn't very good in the version I seen.
Originally posted by: GuidaClayAllDay Date: April 20, 2010 at 01:36 AM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/ufc-115-liddell-vs-franklin-odds-discussion.24630/
Burn said:
I've seen the fight, I can verify its authenticity
It was in Japan I think, but I don't remember as it's been a while. Lyoto won by TKO due to strikes it was a pretty good fight although I recall that the quality of the picture wasn't very good in the version I seen.
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Burn is right. Inoki Bom-Ba-Ye 2003. December 31st in Kobe, Japan. Both Emelianenkos, Barnett, Overeem, Fujita, and Tsuji were on the card. Tsuji's win led to a 14 win streak that was broken this year, which I think is the longest female winning streak that I know of.
Originally posted by: MikeyHatTrick Date: April 23, 2010 at 12:53 PM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/ufc-115-liddell-vs-franklin-odds-discussion.24630/
Originally posted by: donshort Date: April 27, 2010 at 07:29 PM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/ufc-115-liddell-vs-franklin-odds-discussion.24630/
Originally posted by: VasyGSP Date: April 27, 2010 at 09:15 PM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/ufc-115-liddell-vs-franklin-odds-discussion.24630/
MikeyHatTrick said:
Does anyone see Cro Cop taking Barry down and GNP
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No
I can guarantee that it will be a standup fight. The only way that it hits the ground is if either guy knocks the other one down with a punch or a kick and swarms him on the ground trying to get the finish.
Unless someone tells me something very convincing, I think that the lines are very well set and if I HAD to bet on someone here it would probably be Barry up to about -150.
Cro Cop should've stopped fighting after the Kongo loss which is many moons ago.