*UFC 137: Penn vs. Diaz: Official Discussion Thread*

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: smfowns4
Date: September 27, 2011 at 03:44 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/ufc-137-penn-vs-diaz-official-discussion-thread.42350/

UFC 137: St-Pierre vs. Condit is an upcoming mixed martial arts event to be held by the Ultimate Fighting Championship on October 29, 2011 at Mandalay Bay Events Center in Las Vegas, Nevada.
This event was originally expected to take place on October 15, 2011 at the Echo Arena in Liverpool, England.[2] However, due to multiple scheduling issues with broadcast rights, the organization scrapped those plans.
A UFC Primetime series is expected to promote the main event.
UFC 137 will feature two preliminary fights live on Spike TV.
Dennis Siver was expected to face Sam Stout at this event, but Stout pulled out of the bout on August 29th and was replaced by Donald Cerrone.
Nick Diaz, who was originally scheduled to headline the card opposite Georges St-Pierre for the UFC Welterweight Championship, was pulled from the fight on September 7th due to failed media appearances. Carlos Condit was promoted from his fight with B.J. Penn to replace Diaz and face St-Pierre.
On September 8th, B.J. Penn announced via Twitter that Dana White offered him a fight he "cannot refuse" and will still be fighting at UFC 137. Later that day, both Penn and White announced that the fight would be against Nick Diaz.
Official Fight Card:
Main Card:
Georges St. Pierre vs. Carlos Condit
BJ Penn vs. Nick Diaz
Cheick Kongo vs. Matt Mitrione
Roy Nelson vs. Mirko Cro Cop
Hatsu Hioki vs. George Roop
Preliminary Card (SPIKE):
Dennis Siver vs. Donald Cerrone
Tyson Griffin vs. Bart Palaszewski
Unaired Preliminary Card:
Brad Tavares vs. Tim Credeur
Scott Jorgenson vs. Jeff Curran
Brandon Vera vs. Eliott Marshall
Ramsey Nijem vs. Danny Downes
Chris Camozzi vs. Francis Carmont[

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: Fight Magnet
Date: September 27, 2011 at 03:47 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/ufc-137-penn-vs-diaz-official-discussion-thread.42350/

Re: *UFC 137: St. Pierre vs. Condit Official Discussion Thre

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: TheCompany
Date: September 27, 2011 at 04:05 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/ufc-137-penn-vs-diaz-official-discussion-thread.42350/

Re: *UFC 137: St. Pierre vs. Condit Official Discussion Thre
Georges St. Pierre
vs. Carlos Condit by Boring Dec.
BJ Penn vs.
Nick Diaz
by TKO rnd 3 fight of the year.
Cheick Kongo vs.
Matt Mitrione
by DEC
Roy Nelson vs.
Mirko Cro Cop
by DEC
Hatsu Hioki
vs. George Roop by Sub.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: Fight Magnet
Date: October 01, 2011 at 02:08 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/ufc-137-penn-vs-diaz-official-discussion-thread.42350/

Re: *UFC 137: St. Pierre vs. Condit Official Discussion Thre
Tim Credeur, has been forced out of UFC 137 later this month.
MMAFighting
Tim Credeur, who returned to the UFC in June after a nearly two-year layoff, has been forced out of UFC 137 later this month.
Stepping in to take Credeur's place against Brad Tavares on the pay-per-view card in Las Vegas will be UFC newcomer Dustin Jacoby. Jacoby's trainer, Marc Fiore, made the announcement on his Facebook page and Twitter feed Saturday morning. The UFC has not yet announced the change, and Credeur vs. Tavares was still listed on the official fight card at UFC.com on Saturday morning.
UFC 137 takes place Oct. 29 at the Mandalay Bay Events Center and features a welterweight title fight between champion Georges St-Pierre and Carlos Condit, plus a co-main event between BJ Penn and former Strikeforce welterweight champ Nick Diaz.
Credeur (12-4, 3-2 UFC) started his UFC career 3-0 with stoppages of Cale Yarbrough, Nate Loughran and Nick Catone. But after a Fight of the Night decision loss to Nate Quarry at UFC Fight Night 19 in September 2009, it took Credeur 21 months to get back. An injury forced him out of a bout at Fight Night 20, and then an abnormal brain scan before UFC 113 kept him on the shelf for more than a year.
Credeur returned at the TUF 13 Finale in June, but lost in 48 seconds to an Ed Herman TKO. Herman also had been out for nearly two years thanks to a severe knee injury.
Jacoby (6-0) turned pro last November and has been on a tear throughout the Midwest. The 23-year-old central Illinois native has six stoppages in his six wins, five of them in the first round. He has been working with Fiore at the H.I.T. Squad gym near St. Louis, which Fiore co-founded with UFC Hall of Famer Matt Hughes. Fiore is scheduled to open his own MMA gym in Springfield, Ill., next month.
Tavares (7-1, 2-1 UFC) was a semifinalist on Season 11 of "The Ultimate Fighter," where he lost to eventual champ Court McGee. Tavares started his official UFC career 2-0 with wins over Seth Badzynski and Phil Baroni before a unanimous decision loss to Aaron Simpson at UFC 132 in July.
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[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: Galgorian
Date: October 01, 2011 at 02:18 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/ufc-137-penn-vs-diaz-official-discussion-thread.42350/

Re: *UFC 137: St. Pierre vs. Condit Official Discussion Thre
Georges St. Pierre vs. Carlos Condit
W: Georges St. Pierre by Decision
BJ Penn vs. Nick Diaz
W: BJ Penn by TKO
Cheick Kongo vs. Matt Mitrione
W: Mitrione by KO
Roy Nelson vs. Mirko Cro Cop
W: Nelson by any finish he wants

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: smfowns4
Date: October 02, 2011 at 01:15 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/ufc-137-penn-vs-diaz-official-discussion-thread.42350/

Re: *UFC 137: St. Pierre vs. Condit Official Discussion Thre
Just curious on what you guys are expecting with the Nelson/Filipovic fight. Very tough fight in my opinion to call.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: themmasupreme
Date: October 02, 2011 at 06:37 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/ufc-137-penn-vs-diaz-official-discussion-thread.42350/

Re: *UFC 137: St. Pierre vs. Condit Official Discussion Thre
smfowns4 said:
Just curious on what you guys are expecting with the Nelson/Filipovic fight. Very tough fight in my opinion to call.
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Wanting Cro Cop to win but I think Nelson takes it in the same fashion as Schaub did.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: metalmike00
Date: October 02, 2011 at 07:55 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/ufc-137-penn-vs-diaz-official-discussion-thread.42350/

Re: *UFC 137: St. Pierre vs. Condit Official Discussion Thre
themmasupreme said:
smfowns4 said:
Just curious on what you guys are expecting with the Nelson/Filipovic fight. Very tough fight in my opinion to call.
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Wanting Cro Cop to win but I think Nelson takes it in the same fashion as Schaub did.
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Roy is not nearly as mobile as Schaub is

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: thabestevah
Date: October 02, 2011 at 08:07 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/ufc-137-penn-vs-diaz-official-discussion-thread.42350/

Re: *UFC 137: St. Pierre vs. Condit Official Discussion Thre
metalmike00 said:
themmasupreme said:
smfowns4 said:
Just curious on what you guys are expecting with the Nelson/Filipovic fight. Very tough fight in my opinion to call.
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Wanting Cro Cop to win but I think Nelson takes it in the same fashion as Schaub did.
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Roy is not nearly as mobile as Schaub is
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Also if the fight goes that long then Roy will be gassed...

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: Neonep
Date: October 02, 2011 at 08:23 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/ufc-137-penn-vs-diaz-official-discussion-thread.42350/

Re: *UFC 137: St. Pierre vs. Condit Official Discussion Thre
Let me say it now, Condit is going to take St. Pierre out. I expect St. Pierre to get rocked once or twice.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: Portillo
Date: October 02, 2011 at 08:44 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/ufc-137-penn-vs-diaz-official-discussion-thread.42350/

Re: *UFC 137: St. Pierre vs. Condit Official Discussion Thre
War GSP and Penn.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: themmasupreme
Date: October 02, 2011 at 10:07 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/ufc-137-penn-vs-diaz-official-discussion-thread.42350/

Re: *UFC 137: St. Pierre vs. Condit Official Discussion Thre
metalmike00 said:
themmasupreme said:
smfowns4 said:
Just curious on what you guys are expecting with the Nelson/Filipovic fight. Very tough fight in my opinion to call.
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Wanting Cro Cop to win but I think Nelson takes it in the same fashion as Schaub did.
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Roy is not nearly as mobile as Schaub is
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Only takes one overhand and it's over, I want Cro Cop to win but I just think Nelson connects.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: KungFuHustle
Date: October 02, 2011 at 10:10 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/ufc-137-penn-vs-diaz-official-discussion-thread.42350/

Re: *UFC 137: St. Pierre vs. Condit Official Discussion Thre
gsp is wasting his talent and is giving up his legacy for money. Can't necessarily hate on him for that but as long as he fights the way he does I won't really look forward to watching him compete.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: holmezy
Date: October 02, 2011 at 11:36 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/ufc-137-penn-vs-diaz-official-discussion-thread.42350/

Re: *UFC 137: St. Pierre vs. Condit Official Discussion Thre
Neonep said:
Let me say it now, Condit is going to take St. Pierre out. I expect St. Pierre to get rocked once or twice.
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+1
I am almost 100% confident that GSP will get rocked and either get put to sleep or TKO'd.
There is no way GSP will finish Condit and I dont see him lasting 5 rounds without getting rocked, and as soon as GSP gets rocked the natural born killer will smell blood and take him out.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: D253
Date: October 03, 2011 at 12:11 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/ufc-137-penn-vs-diaz-official-discussion-thread.42350/

Re: *UFC 137: St. Pierre vs. Condit Official Discussion Thre
holmezy said:
Neonep said:
Let me say it now, Condit is going to take St. Pierre out. I expect St. Pierre to get rocked once or twice.
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+1
I am almost 100% confident that GSP will get rocked and either get put to sleep or TKO'd.
There is no way GSP will finish Condit and I dont see him lasting 5 rounds without getting rocked, and as soon as GSP gets rocked the natural born killer will smell blood and take him out.
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I'm in the same boat (hoping for a Condit win anyway).
Well, one can only hope right..
But GSP has shut me up a few times before haha

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: D253
Date: October 03, 2011 at 12:16 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/ufc-137-penn-vs-diaz-official-discussion-thread.42350/

Re: *UFC 137: St. Pierre vs. Condit Official Discussion Thre
Am I the only one who thinks Nick will wear BJ out in there fight?
I see it being a war, but I kinda think diaz will get the decision....

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: Fight Magnet
Date: October 03, 2011 at 12:47 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/ufc-137-penn-vs-diaz-official-discussion-thread.42350/

Re: *UFC 137: St. Pierre vs. Condit Official Discussion Thre
BigLEFT said:
Am I the only one who thinks Nick will wear BJ out in there fight?
I see it being a war, but I kinda think diaz will get the decision....
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Not at all, one guy has always had questionable cardio, the other does tri-athalons. Pushing the pace for Diaz is a fore gone conclusion imo.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: Spud
Date: October 03, 2011 at 07:25 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/ufc-137-penn-vs-diaz-official-discussion-thread.42350/

Re: *UFC 137: St. Pierre vs. Condit Official Discussion Thre
People actually think Condit can win? This is going to be a replica of the GSP Vs Hardy fight. Condit doesn't have good wrestling and GSP is not the guy you want controlling you on the ground. 5 rounds of ground domination.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: BaconBits
Date: October 03, 2011 at 10:22 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/ufc-137-penn-vs-diaz-official-discussion-thread.42350/

Re: *UFC 137: St. Pierre vs. Condit Official Discussion Thre
FIGHTMAGNET said:
BigLEFT said:
Am I the only one who thinks Nick will wear BJ out in there fight?
I see it being a war, but I kinda think diaz will get the decision....
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Not at all, one guy has always had questionable cardio, the other does tri-athalons. Pushing the pace for Diaz is a fore gone conclusion imo.
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Nick Diaz isn't a grinding wrestler. The cardio will be a non-issue in a three round fight.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: residency
Date: October 03, 2011 at 11:50 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/ufc-137-penn-vs-diaz-official-discussion-thread.42350/

Re: *UFC 137: St. Pierre vs. Condit Official Discussion Thre
War Conditrionelsokiaz. (Condit, Mitrione, Nelson, Hioki, Diaz)
That is all.