UFC 196: Werdum vs. Velasquez 2

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Originally posted by: imhungry4444
Date: January 18, 2016 at 09:31 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/ufc-196-werdum-vs-velasquez-2.68257/
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MAIN CARD
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Pay-per-view, 10 p.m. ET
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Fabricio Werdum
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Cain Velasquez
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for heavyweight championship
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Johny Hendricks
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Stephen Thompson
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Roy Nelson
vs.
Jared Rosholt
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Ovince Saint Preux
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Rafael Cavalcante
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Joseph Benavidez
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Zach Makovsky
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Josh Burkman
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K.J. Noons
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Damian Grabowski
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Derrick Lewis
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Mike Pyle
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Sean Spencer
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Misha Cirkunov
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Alex Nicholson
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UFC Fight Pass, 6:00 p.m. ET
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Mickey Gall
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Michael Jackson
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Artem Lobov
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Ray Borg
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Justin Scoggins
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Noad Lahat
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Diego Rivas
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Originally posted by: Jak
Date: January 18, 2016 at 09:34 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/ufc-196-werdum-vs-velasquez-2.68257/
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When is UFC 197?
It's not that this is a bad card, but besides The Wonderboy, don't have any dogs in any of the fights in this one.
 
Originally posted by: wolf hunter
Date: January 18, 2016 at 09:40 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/ufc-196-werdum-vs-velasquez-2.68257/
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Nuther piss poor looking card, johnny will potentially hump a victory over wonderboy whom I don't believe has the power to put away Hendricks, unless he's just hits him dead on the ear with a spinning attack or right in the liver
Wow rosholt and then Hendricks
I hope Roy keeps it standing
 
Originally posted by: MMAFTM13
Date: January 18, 2016 at 11:19 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/ufc-196-werdum-vs-velasquez-2.68257/
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Is Werdum training in the Mexican mountains again cuz if he isn't then I'll be picking Cain this time?
 
Originally posted by: Tum Tum
Date: January 18, 2016 at 11:36 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/ufc-196-werdum-vs-velasquez-2.68257/
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Hopefully this card comes quick so that we can finally get this whole Werdum/Velasquez saga out of the way. If Velasquez loses I don't want to see him in a title fight the rest of 2016. The most interesting fight though is Wonderboy/Hendricks. I think Wonderboy is a live dog here and can beat Hendricks.
 
Originally posted by: MMAFTM13
Date: January 18, 2016 at 11:43 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/ufc-196-werdum-vs-velasquez-2.68257/
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Tum Tum said:
Hopefully this card comes quick so that we can finally get this whole Werdum/Velasquez saga out of the way. If Velasquez loses I don't want to see him in a title fight the rest of 2016. The most interesting fight though is Wonderboy/Hendricks. I think Wonderboy is a live dog here and can beat Hendricks.
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You really think Thompson can stop the takedowns?
 
Originally posted by: Tum Tum
Date: January 18, 2016 at 11:56 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/ufc-196-werdum-vs-velasquez-2.68257/
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MMAFTM13 said:
You really think Thompson can stop the takedowns?
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The thing is I have no idea what Hendricks is going to show up. I do think Thompson has enough tools to make it interesting in the stand up game. If anything I am more concerned with Wonderboy getting hit with a shot than Hendricks' wrestling.
 
Originally posted by: Reckin007
Date: January 18, 2016 at 12:00 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/ufc-196-werdum-vs-velasquez-2.68257/
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MMAFTM13 said:
You really think Thompson can stop the takedowns?
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Exactly. Wonderboy gets a lot of praise because he's fancy but he hasn't faced anyone of this caliber yet. Hendricks should be able to hang with him on the feet + get a takedown when he wants it. I'll be very shocked if Wonderboy wins this.
 
Originally posted by: MMAFTM13
Date: January 18, 2016 at 12:07 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/ufc-196-werdum-vs-velasquez-2.68257/
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Tum Tum said:
The thing is I have no idea what Hendricks is going to show up. I do think Thompson has enough tools to make it interesting in the stand up game. If anything I am more concerned with Wonderboy getting hit with a shot than Hendricks' wrestling.
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As a fan of Wonderboy, I'm certainly more worried about the wrestling aspect of Hendricks game; than his striking tbh.
I'm just not concerned at all with Hendricks striking against Thompson. Yes, he has big power but in the technical game, both guys are on different levels and Thompson will stick and move effectively, while avoiding the bombs.
Now, if Thompson can keep this fight vertical, then I think he wins a decision easily. He has almost a 80% tdd success rate(which is top notch), but he's fought nobodies in wrestling.
He fought Browne and lost cuz he couldn't stop the takedowns. Admittedly, that was almost 3 years ago, but the foundations are there for Johnny to get his hands on him like he did with Condit and have his way with him.
Hope you're right man!
 
Originally posted by: MMAFTM13
Date: January 18, 2016 at 12:09 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/ufc-196-werdum-vs-velasquez-2.68257/
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Reckin007 said:
Exactly. Wonderboy gets a lot of praise because he's fancy but he hasn't faced anyone of this caliber yet. Hendricks should be able to hang with him on the feet + get a takedown when he wants it. I'll be very shocked if Wonderboy wins this.
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I think Thomoson could win, like Condit probably would've if he could stop the takedowns, but I cannot see it and I'm a fan of Wonderboy.
 
Originally posted by: Magson13
Date: January 18, 2016 at 12:26 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/ufc-196-werdum-vs-velasquez-2.68257/
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Jak said:
When is UFC 197?
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March 5th.
 
Originally posted by: Jak
Date: January 18, 2016 at 12:55 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/ufc-196-werdum-vs-velasquez-2.68257/
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Tum Tum said:
The thing is I have no idea what Hendricks is going to show up.
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What Hendricks usually shows up? He beats everyone except Lawler in one their fights, and that includes basically a win over GSP as well.
 
Originally posted by: Magson13
Date: January 18, 2016 at 01:06 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/ufc-196-werdum-vs-velasquez-2.68257/
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Jak said:
What Hendricks usually shows up?
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Constipated Hendricks.
 
Originally posted by: NicoSuave
Date: January 18, 2016 at 02:36 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/ufc-196-werdum-vs-velasquez-2.68257/
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After Cruz winning the belt last night with a torn foot, I need Werdum to kick Cain's ***. At this point, I think everyone knows how hard Cain's work ethic is... The problem is that he works TOO HARD, and he keeps getting injured because of it. If Cain wins, we're gonna be thrown right back into Interim Heavyweight Championship waters for the hundredth time in the past four years.
I refuse to go back to living in a world where the Bantamweight and Heavyweight Championships aren't defended for a minimum of a year!
 
Originally posted by: JonnyRico
Date: January 18, 2016 at 03:01 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/ufc-196-werdum-vs-velasquez-2.68257/
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NicoSuave said:
After Cruz winning the belt last night with a torn foot, I need Werdum to kick Cain's ***. At this point, I think everyone knows how hard Cain's work ethic is... The problem is that he works TOO HARD, and he keeps getting injured because of it. If Cain wins, we're gonna be thrown right back into Interim Heavyweight Championship waters for the hundredth time in the past four years.
I refuse to go back to living in a world where the Bantamweight and Heavyweight Championships aren't defended for a minimum of a year!
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Some of the workouts I've seen Cain on video are just screaming for him to get injured. Not surprising he has trouble staying healthy.
 
Originally posted by: Neonep
Date: January 18, 2016 at 04:58 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/ufc-196-werdum-vs-velasquez-2.68257/
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I'm not a fan of the UFC scheduling fights too early. Like yesterday night they announced Joanna/Claudia rematch for July 8. That is too far and leaves too much room for things to go on.
 
Originally posted by: imhungry4444
Date: January 18, 2016 at 08:30 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/ufc-196-werdum-vs-velasquez-2.68257/
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JonnyRico said:
Some of the workouts I've seen Cain on video are just screaming for him to get injured. Not surprising he has trouble staying healthy.
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Those workout videos are attributed to his moronic strength training regime pre-UFC 188. I don't remember the name of his strength coach, but he was a total meathead bro-douche. Didn't know wtf he was doing. The new guy Cain is using for his strength and conditioning is more up-to-snuff for what's necessary for an elite combat sports athlete. If Cain does pull out, it'll be probably due to the apparent wars Cain and DC get in sparring. Other than that, I'm confident Cain will be able to fight as scheduled from hence forth.
 
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