UFC 201: Lawler vs. Woodley
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Not as bad of a card as a lot people are saying, but not quite PPV quality outside of the championship fight. Lawler puts on some great fights and I think his style helps him with a win here. Woodley's been out for too long. Have a feeling most people will be talking about the Brown/Ellenburger and championship fight after everything is said and done.
I'm only interested in the Lawler/Woodley fight. People are writing Woodley off, but he should be game for the first couple of rounds.
The Namajunas/Kowalkiewicz fight might be for the next title shot. I hope that if Rose wins she fights Joanna. No sense in having her eliminate contenders if she's not willing to fight for the title.
Ellenberger doesn't belong in the UFC nevermind the main card of a PPV.
newERA said:
I'm only interested in the Lawler/Woodley fight. People are writing Woodley off, but he should be game for the first couple of rounds.
The Namajunas/Kowalkiewicz fight might be for the next title shot. I hope that if Rose wins she fights Joanna. No sense in having her eliminate contenders if she's not willing to fight for the title.
Ellenberger doesn't belong in the UFC nevermind the main card of a PPV.
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if this were matt brown vs carlos condit, gunnar nelson or neil magny, this would be an ultra stacked card, jake ellenberger literally makes the card a lot worse
This card is not as bad as people make it out to be. Alot of competitive matchmaking top to bottom. Especially the main card.
Title fight headlining featuring Robbie f*cking Lawler facing an explosive, athletic beast in Tyron Woodley. Those first two rounds are going to be savage.
Co-main event has the makings of a FOTN banger. Brown always comes to brawl and Ellenberger, though on a big downswing, is happy to oblige and still carriers alot of power in his hands.
Namajunas vs. Kowalkiewicz is a strawweight no.1 contender bout between two very well rounded young chicks who could both give Joanna a run for her money. Especially Namajunas. But Kowalkiewicz's rate of progression is quite good. She's no joke. She'll give Rose a real fight.
Cisco vs. Goyito should be very entertaining. Cisco is always down for a scrap or a technical fight. That's what's cool about him. He can do both very well. While Perez is still young, improving, and has untapped potential. Should be a good scrap.
McCall vs. Scoggins is a coming out party for Justin Scoggins who could very well be the "chosen one" to challenge Demetrious one day. While McCall is trying to reestablish himself as an elite flyweight and fighter overall. Also, most importantly, it's going to be a well rounded fight. Both can do everything very well. Very good fight.
This card reminds me of UFC 191 last year. Really put together last minute, a mishmash of a bunch of solid matchmaking, and coming off a huge series of events. It was, as this card is, a good cool down card. I like it. I'm looking forward to it.
imhungry4444 said:
This card is not as bad as people make it out to be. Alot of competitive matchmaking top to bottom. Especially the main card.
Title fight headlining featuring Robbie f*cking Lawler facing an explosive, athletic beast in Tyron Woodley. Those first two rounds are going to be savage.
Co-main event has the makings of a FOTN banger. Brown always comes to brawl and Ellenberger, though on a big downswing, is happy to oblige and still carriers alot of power in his hands.
Namajunas vs. Kowalkiewicz is a strawweight no.1 contender bout between two very well rounded young chicks who could both give Joanna a run for her money. Especially Namajunas. But Kowalkiewicz's rate of progression is quite good. She's no joke. She'll give Rose a real fight.
Cisco vs. Goyito should be very entertaining. Cisco is always down for a scrap or a technical fight. That's what's cool about him. He can do both very well. While Perez is still young, improving, and has untapped potential. Should be a good scrap.
McCall vs. Scoggins is a coming out party for Justin Scoggins who could very well be the "chosen one" to challenge Demetrious one day. While McCall is trying to reestablish himself as an elite flyweight and fighter overall. Also, most importantly, it's going to be a well rounded fight. Both can do everything very well. Very good fight.
This card reminds me of UFC 191 last year. Really put together last minute, a mishmash of a bunch of solid matchmaking, and coming off a huge series of events. It was, as this card is, a good cool down card. I like it. I'm looking forward to it.
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I feel like you are dead wrong on the co-main event. Ellenberger is going to be extremely desperate to get a win, and Brown has been taken down and controlled for 3 rounds before. I'm not saying it's certainly going to happen, but I don't see Ellenberger willingly obliging to a striking fest with Matt Brown. I assume he'll do whatever he can to avoid striking with Matt.
As for the main event, once Woodley realizes Lawler isn't going to play into his striking style and he starts feeling the pressure, I assume he is going to dive on a leg and hold on for dear life, probably tire out, and get finished in the 3rd or 4th.
Woodley barely got past an unhealthy Gastelum, and he lost to Shields a year before he got dominated by Rory Macdonald, which was not that long ago. I respect Woodley and enjoy watching him fight, but Lawler vs Maia, Lawler vs Condit 2 or Lawler vs Thompson would be substantially better. Hell, if Rory never lost to Thompson, that'd be a more intriguing fight as well. I'm not trying to rip on Woodley here, but honestly, I don't think he has earned the title shot.
I'm not saying this card is terrible, personally, I think it is exciting, but for 60 dollars the people saying it is fairly lackluster are justified in saying so, especially after UFC 196 - UFC 200
BRF said:
I feel like you are dead wrong on the co-main event. Ellenberger is going to be extremely desperate to get a win, and Brown has been taken down and controlled for 3 rounds before. I'm not saying it's certainly going to happen, but I don't see Ellenberger willingly obliging to a striking fest with Matt Brown. I assume he'll do whatever he can to avoid striking with Matt.
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Jake was willing to strike with Robbie, Wonderboy, and Saffiedine. Two of which were coming off losses. Brown is an initiator. If you don't want to strike, he'll make you wanna strike as long it stays on the feet. Ellenberger is prideful in his KO power and his "improved" boxing. Also, he's always been confident in his KO power. Brown will get in his face, Jake will try to take his head off and he might tag him. But Brown will keep getting in his face and he either overwhelms him, or that initial shot that Ellenberger lands will put Brown into la la land. Given Brown's low damage absorption, it's possible. Though I think the former outcome is more likely.
imhungry4444 said:
Jake was willing to strike with Robbie, Wonderboy, and Saffiedine. Two of which were coming off losses. Brown is an initiator. If you don't want to strike, he'll make you wanna strike as long it stays on the feet. Ellenberger is prideful in his KO power and his "improved" boxing. Also, he's always been confident in his KO power. Brown will get in his face, Jake will try to take his head off and he might tag him. But Brown will keep getting in his face and he either overwhelms him, or that initial shot that Ellenberger lands will put Brown into la la land. Given Brown's low damage absorption, it's possible. Though I think the former outcome is more likely.
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True. We shall see on fight day. I don't know if Ellenberger and Edmund are smart enough to come up with a game plan that heavily involves wrestling. I hope it turns out exciting, but Ellenberger hasn't been exciting in a while. I think he'll either backpedal tentatively, throwing very few strikes, or he'll look to wrestle matt and hold him against the cage or canvas the entire time to avoid the pressure and striking of him.
Magson13 said:
Not if Woodley grinds him out for five rounds, or if Woodley runs the whole fight.
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woodley doesnt have the gas to grind for 5 rounds. and no matter what you try to do, lawler will bring the heat. hendricks tried it and lawler still made it entertaining enough